"Rowley said both groups have a common goal of “increasing tensions and divisions in communities”. He said both reach into communities through sophisticated propaganda, as well as create intolerance and isolation by exploiting grievances. He added both also reinforce a sense of isolation by generating distrust of the state and offer “warped parallel alternatives” that undermine values of tolerance and diversity."
Other than possibly the bit about distrusting the state this literally applies to the left as well. The problem is that society has decided that the left is "good" and the right is "bad", people have started to realise that this is wrong but when they try and speak up about it they're just branded as the "evil alt-right" which unfortunately leads to the few that truly are evil resorting to extreme measures.
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Far right terrorist threat growing in UK watch
- 01-03-2018 16:43
- 01-03-2018 16:48
Although 4 isn’t a huge number, it’s 4 too many. We should focus on eradicating terrorism of all forms, whether it comes from the right or left or if it is religious.
- 01-03-2018 17:01
New to this chat, and I'm going to be honest with you, there is a higher threat from the far right or the ''alt-right" as they seem to be known. And I think they are odious, awful and asinine in every conceivable way but as someone who leans to the right of politics I have found that expressing nothing aside from mainstream right wing opinions has been deemed more and more difficult as my language is being policed, my opinions are being shut down by the loudest mob so to speak and I'm being told I can't talk because I'm offending someone. If this is the way the left will argue with us because we will expose their political cowardice, all this will do is push more funny, interesting people like me to the alt-right and although I don't currently support them it's blatantly obvious that their will be a second wave of the alt-right. One being the disgusting Neo-Nazi wave and one wave being me and as everyone who cares to look knows the media is awful at it's job and will always say that there are less people in my wave then there actually are leading to Brexit, Trump etc. I am not far right, I am centre right at most but this slight of hand people play to say for example that radical Islamism is less of a problem or the amount of media coverage given to someone who killed one person at a mosque vs. someone who blow twenty people up at Manchester Arena.
(Original post by AmeliaLost)
- 01-03-2018 17:10
The IRA were right wing nationalists. All Corbyn did at the time was to speak out of turn, to say he supported them is vastly skewing what he was up to (which wasn't good in itself, but it's a different story).
Official IRA - Marxist
Provisional IRA - National Socialist
Continuity IRA - Nationalism & anti-criminality
Irish National Liberation Army - Far Left
(Original post by AmeliaLost)
- 03-03-2018 11:38
And Islamic extremism receives the most attention from counter-terrorism, counter-extremism projects etc out of any form of extremism. But where's the attention for those being pulled into other extremist ideologies?Last edited by Helvetica00; 03-03-2018 at 11:47.
- 03-03-2018 11:40
Is there a reason anyone in the government should be blindly trusted? If so, what is that reason?
(Original post by Annoying orange)
- 03-03-2018 11:43
New to this chat, and I'm going to be honest with you, there is a higher threat from the far right or the ''alt-right" as they seem to be known.
The alt-right is now the "far right"? You really don't know too much about the movement if you think that is the case. There are certainly some "far right" elements in it... but to pretend the terms are synonymous is disingenuous. But these labels have become increasingly useless, since anything to the right of the Grauniad is now "far right".
- 03-03-2018 11:47
Look at how those figures are compiled and how many disparate ideologies are being classed as "right wing".
Now please explain how this translates to the UK?Last edited by TCA2b; 03-03-2018 at 11:50.
- 05-03-2018 00:43
The goverment has created the conditions for far-Right extremism to florish. Thoughtless mass immigration, multicultural tribalism, child grooming gangs, Islamic terrorism, and the general growth of Islam are some of the main contributing factors. The goverment hasn't bothered to robustly address valid concerns regarding these matters - choosing instead to silence people under "hate speech" laws.
When you censor people, you don't kill off opinions: you just drive them to a place where they'll be accepted. What did you expect to happen? Do you really think everyone will just sit back when another terror attack happens or another grooming gang scandal is uncovered? The growth of the far-Right in this country will come as no surprise if you read the comment sections of right-wing media.Last edited by RivalPlayer; 05-03-2018 at 00:47.
- 05-03-2018 00:58
There's barely any far-right in this country, let alone far-right terrorism.
The odd person here or there has done some anti-Islamic terror - but overwhelmingly the terrorism in this country has in the past 40 years been:
1. Irish Nationalist
2. Northern Irish Loyalist
3. Animal Rights
4. Far Left
5. Islamic Fundamentalist
It wasn't that long ago that Europe was plagued by Far Left terrorism.
The Far Right tended not to engage in terrorism per se, but when they had a following were generally criminal gangs - and more akin to Organised Crime than terror.