Durham or Warwick?

its not something they are known or likely care for.

What a strange thing to say. They care enough to have a long-established business school and, if rankings matter, a comfortable Top 10 ranking.

Yeah but Durham isn't Oxbridge. It doesnt have the same mystique globally. They also only require AAB for business, that tells you something, its not something they are known or likely care for.

Well everyone has to have one, and their website says 36 places...thats not a massive business school by any scope. There are unis that really push their economics and business school, and some that don't...thats not an odd thing to say. Some peoples strenghts lie in building great english programs or history departments. Business isnt the only course in the world.

Nottingham is only AAB.

But business has traditionally been one of Durham's weakest courses. It used to be taught At Queen's, Durham's Stockton campus (about 30 mins outside Durham). It had ABB entry, and hardly stuck to it, because no one decent wanted to study there. And rightly so. There's a high street, a bridge, wasteland and then there's Durham's Stockton campus. And that high street is literally one row of shops (namely a 3 Greggs and a New Look). Imagine the internationals arriving there, from Shanghai and Hong Kong.

Now it's moved to Durham City, increased its entry to AAB, and it will probably be increasing its status year on year. That said, even though it used to be in Stockton and take in ACC (or similar), average UCAS points from this period are 465 whereas Notts was 402.

And is 7 places above Notts in CUG.

Nottingham is only AAB.

But business has traditionally been one of Durham's weakest courses. It used to be taught at Queen's, Durham's Stockton campus (about 30 mins outside Durham). It had ABB entry, and hardly stuck to it, because no one decent wanted to study there. And rightly so. There's a high street, a bridge, wasteland and then there's Durham's Stockton campus. And that high street is literally one row of shops (namely 3 Greggs and a New Look). Imagine the internationals arriving there, from Shanghai and Hong Kong.

Now it's moved to Durham City, increased its entry to AAB, and it will probably be increasing its status year on year. That said, even though it used to be in Stockton and take in ACC (or similar), average UCAS points from this period are 465 whereas Notts was 402. And ditto was Dooensbury said, maintained a solid top 10 spot even though the course was heavily neglected.

Obviously its higher ranked then Nottingham, but likely on the merit of it being Durham which overall is a much more respected university in all facets.. That is why i find it shocking they require a meer AAB.

Course places do matter, 36 is tiny for a business school with the expansionary vein of universities in the uk you would imagine if there was high demand you would see larger classes for in demand subjects, as business is the most applied for subject.

Why "obviously"? Which part of CUGs methodology makes it obvious that Durham would be higher than Durham for a particular subject? Especially given they rank higher for almost every single criteria, including graduate prospects...

Warwick and Durham are both posh unis lol.

Warwick isn't that posh. Durham is significantly posher than Warwick.

Warwick is the sort of university that career advisers from state schools encourage high achieving students to firm. It's not particularly sought after by those from private schools.

Even Leeds is posher than Warwick.

Have you watched some of the videos of students at Warwick? I recall when i was looking at management (which it is good for) watching videos thinking what is this ****, cheesy activities like salsa dancing etc.. Its very attempted posh at least.

Further state schools would advise any student any Russell group....more then likely which ever one is in that state schools region as a "goal school" if your in the North the discussion will be Durham, in the south it will be Warwick, Notts, etc.

Have you watched some of the videos of students at Warwick? I recall when i was looking at management (which it is good for) watching videos thinking what is this ****, cheesy activities like salsa dancing etc.. Its very attempted posh at least.

Further state schools would advise any student any Russell group....more then likely which ever one is in that state schools region as a "goal school" if your in the North the discussion will be Durham, in the south it will be Warwick, Notts, etc.

Exactly, 'attempted'. There will be some new money (which is not the same as 'posh' and wannabe posh types at Warwick but the volume of private school students isn't particularly high. Ultimately it's just a middle-class university.

Is salsa dancing really that posh? Sounds like ordinary middle class entertainment to me.

The North is socially deprived, so it does not tend to have many RG-attending youngsters. 72% of Durham's students come at least 100 miles from Durham. Similar with Newcastle, with 57%. You won't hear many locals' accents at Durham University! Most students come from dahn sauf.

Also Notts has its own Latin dancing society. Maybe you need to explore more of the societies available to you.

Warwick isn't that posh. Durham is significantly posher than Warwick.

Warwick is the sort of university that career advisers from state schools encourage high achieving students to firm. It's not particularly sought after by those from private schools.

Even Leeds is posher than Warwick.

I guess, im not really going to argue, not much empirical evidence on the social mobility aspects of universitt choosing, i just figured that people would tend to choose ones close to where they live especially if your not rich..

Further, 100 miles? England is small but you have hardly gone from the working north to the dirty (yet wealthy) south in that distance... i mean im in Nottingham, its 130 miles to London!

Never thought I'd ever see anyone put Leeds and posh in the same sentence. What next, calling chip butties gourmet food!

I know you figured that. And it was wrong, so I thought I would point it out. For a small Northern city, surrounded by some of the poorest villages in the country, it attracts near-exclusively Southerners or international students.



The North East, which is the region, is the smallest in England. 100 miles easily escapes it. Newcastle is less than 20 miles away and York is about 60. Further if the North East has no affinity for Durham, I am not sure why Liverpudlians would (NB Manchester is within the 100 miles!).