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    (Original post by lsf722)
    Hello, currently I’m studying in boarding school A-Levels, I’m an international student, second year in the UK
    My predicted grades were: A*AA
    I applied for Law LLB to different unis, and got the following offers:
    Oxford (pre-interview rejection)
    Manchester AAA
    Exeter AAA, if firm AAB
    Warwick AAA
    Surrey ABB

    My question is which uni is good at law in terms of ranking, employability, quality of lectures and etc.
    Which uni is good in terms of social life?
    I visited Manchester and Exeter already, but still don’t know which to pick.
    I know that’s Warwick is the best from those in terms of rankings, but I heard that accommodation is not that good and uni is too isolated.
    Which uni would u pick?
    P.S. I also bother about my final grades - AAA is quite hard, however manageable
    Warwick is not really the place for Law and, yes, it is isolated - I'd firm Exeter and put Surrey as insurance.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    Warwick is not really the place for Law and, yes, it is isolated - I'd firm Exeter and put Surrey as insurance.
    Why it’s not really place for Law? Why Exeter is better? I’m really curious about any small aspects
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    I can only speak for Manchester since I live there, but it's a fantastic city for students and it's got one of the best reputations in the UK for specifically international law, if that's what you were considering.
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    (Original post by PlayWithMarkers)
    I can only speak for Manchester since I live there, but it's a fantastic city for students and it's got one of the best reputations in the UK for specifically international law, if that's what you were considering.
    But rankings are not that high for Law? Why?
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    Exeter and Warwick are about the same, both good schools; rankings tell very little. Manchester's AAA is a straight up lie; they will take far below that but nevertheless a decent law school. Surrey's ABB is more realistic and a generally good school. If you are returning to your home country to work, do consider the international reputation of the schools. Manchester and Warwick are probably better known than Exeter and Surrey.

    I would think about accommodation, scholarships, if you're international you might like students from the same country as you (think about the internationality of the student body), do think a lot about the type of city you want to live in. Exeter and Manchester are both cities; but Manchester is significantly larger. Do you want 50 McDonald's in Manchester or would you prefer Exeter's quaint restaurants vibe? Exeter has more of a community feel, campus and city-wide, whereas Manchester is another anonymous city. Manchester is a lovely place I wouldn't mind to live, though.

    Also do consider to some extent course differences. One might be more essay-based and another more exam; if you prefer one over the other, you should decide accordingly. And to some extent course specialisms; Manchester, Warwick and Exeter have strong commercial specialists.
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    Exeter and Warwick are about the same, both good schools; rankings tell very little. Manchester's AAA is a straight up lie; they will take far below that but nevertheless a decent law school. Surrey's ABB is more realistic and a generally good school. If you are returning to your home country to work, do consider the international reputation of the schools. Manchester and Warwick are probably better known than Exeter and Surrey.

    I would think about accommodation, scholarships, if you're international you might like students from the same country as you (think about the internationality of the student body), do think a lot about the type of city you want to live in. Exeter and Manchester are both cities; but Manchester is significantly larger. Do you want 50 McDonald's in Manchester or would you prefer Exeter's quaint restaurants vibe? Exeter has more of a community feel, campus and city-wide, whereas Manchester is another anonymous city. Manchester is a lovely place I wouldn't mind to live, though.

    Also do consider to some extent course differences. One might be more essay-based and another more exam; if you prefer one over the other, you should decide accordingly. And to some extent course specialisms; Manchester, Warwick and Exeter have strong commercial specialists.
    Really? Never heard that Manchester might take people below AAA...
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    (Original post by lsf722)
    Why it’s not really place for Law? Why Exeter is better? I’m really curious about any small aspects
    Warwick is known for Maths and MORSE - not Law.
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    (Original post by lsf722)
    Really? Never heard that Manchester might take people below AAA...
    Look at it this way. For law, Manchester's average entry is 414. Exeter's is 475 and Warwick's is 470.

    If Exeter could give you an offer of AAA, or AAB if you firm, and Manchester only gives everyone AAA offers, and Warwick only gives offers of AAA, how could it be that Exeter and Warwick have significantly higher entry?

    If you look at the law applicant threads on this site, you will see that Manchester takes a good deal of students without AAA. I would posit AAA+ would be actually the minority. Why would they lie? Saying you have high entry requirements is a way to sell yourself, as it implies that the course is superior to others with lower requirements.
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    Look at it this way. Manchester's average entry is 414. Exeter's is 475 and Warwick's is 470.

    If Exeter could give you an offer of AAA, or AAB if you firm, and Manchester only gives everyone AAA offers, and Warwick only gives offers of AAA, how could it be that Exeter and Warwick have significantly higher entry?

    If you look at the law applicant threads on this site, you will see that Manchester takes a good deal of students without AAA. I would posit AAA+ would be actually the minority. Why would they lie? Saying you have high entry requirements is a way to sell yourself, as it implies that the course is superior to others with lower requirements.
    But still Manchester is quite good at Law right? Because, tbh, I want to live in a big city and have a fear that might miss AAA with A*AB or AAB
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    Warwick is known for Maths and MORSE - not Law.
    It is more known for maths. But it is still known for its solid law course.
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    (Original post by lsf722)
    But still Manchester is quite good at Law right? Because, tbh, I want to live in a big city and have a fear that might miss AAA with A*AB or AAB
    It is a good law school, yes. And with A*AB, I'd bet you £50 they'd take you anyway.
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    It is more known for maths. But it is still known for its solid law course.
    It's not a place our good students look at for Law.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    It's not a place our good students look at for Law.
    Well, good students are oft advised by myopic non-legally minded teachers.
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    (Original post by lsf722)
    But rankings are not that high for Law? Why?
    I misspoke, I meant national over international. Basically - if you are looking to go to a non-London firm, then Manchester is your best choice going purely by the statistics. Not making a judgement here, just providing data : http://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/whe...d-universities
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    (Original post by PlayWithMarkers)
    I misspoke, I meant national over international. Basically - if you are looking to go to a non-London firm, then Manchester is your best choice going purely by the statistics. Not making a judgement here, just providing data : http://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/whe...d-universities
    But if I consider an option going to London? According to those stats, many students from Manchester go to London, even reach Magic Circle firms
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    Well, good students are oft advised by myopic non-legally minded teachers.
    They are bright enough to look for themselves, thank you.
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    (Original post by PlayWithMarkers)
    I misspoke, I meant national over international. Basically - if you are looking to go to a non-London firm, then Manchester is your best choice going purely by the statistics. Not making a judgement here, just providing data : http://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/whe...d-universities
    These stats have been debunked on the law forum countless times.

    The biggest flaw from my perspective is it refers to students who've studied non-law and done the GDL. It is not a direct reflection of the law course at uni X. It is also about gross numbers; Manchester with a high number of students (across all its degrees) has a very good representation.
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    I can't speak for quality of Law lectures but I'd rate Manchester higher than all of those other unis in terms of overall reputation, employability, social life, city, nightlife, accommodation. Worth visiting them before you make your final decision though.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    They are bright enough to look for themselves, thank you.
    Plenty of very good students go to Warwick for law every year. It is a very good course.
 
 
 
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