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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    thank you!! You're arguments about islam on TSR have really helped me to be more sure about my decision
    hopefully when I start uni this September and move out. Wish me luch that I'll acc be able to go because my parents might force me to stay at home.
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    I'll kill myself if they do


    I hope you do! I know some people who were forced to live at home and hated it. Uni is such a good place to grow and learn who you are, I hope you get the opportunity to move out and become your own person ❤️ Don't go too wild though 😉
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    (Original post by cat_mac)
    Plantagenet Crown this looks right up your street... :daydreaming:
    I really can’t be asked tonight. It would also massively derail the thread :lol:
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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    yes the internet is the only free place for me
    That's sad to hear!

    Do all non-Muslim really go to hell, or does Allah make any exceptions for the good apples, or do they all get thrown in the basket?
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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    well what Islam regards as sinful are generally perfectly humane and natural things, they aren't things to be ashamed about like sex and sexuality and the female body which is censored at obscene levels.
    If sex was so abhorrent it would not be in the Holy Quraan itself. That would also be concealed. Allah would not have mentioned it or shown us via Hadhrat Adam(AS) and Hadhrat Hawa(AS) on how to reproduce as such.

    Its been mentioned quite explicitly and nowadays scholars are more open to it than ever.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    I really can’t be asked tonight. It would also massively derail the thread :lol:
    In other words, you do not have the answer.
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    How is it possible that one professor can determine whether or not a religion is scientific or not... :confused::confused:
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    (Original post by MiszshorTea786)
    In other words, do not have the answer. Its okay to say it Planta, no ones going to 'hate' you for it.
    Not true, as I’ve discussed the errors on many other threads. Stop trying to derail.
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    (Original post by Jheinexx)
    You can. You just don’t want to because it isn’t a muslim making this thread.
    No, I can’t. I would know what I can be asked to do, not you

    There’s no logic in your statement. A non-Muslim wouldn’t be espousing the so-called scientific miracles of the Quran.
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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    well what Islam regards as sinful are generally perfectly humane and natural things, they aren't things to be ashamed about like sex and sexuality and the female body which is censored at obscene levels.
    Things like that are not considered sinful , they are natural and good however it should happen bewteen a wife and a husband. please please watch nasheesha sessions on youtube regarding these topics he explaisn it beautifully
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    (Original post by howitoughttobe)
    I hope you do! I know some people who were forced to live at home and hated it. Uni is such a good place to grow and learn who you are, I hope you get the opportunity to move out and become your own person ❤️ Don't go too wild though 😉
    thank you so much!!
    haha, I have a feeling that I might go a lil crazy, it's just what happens when you can't do all the things that other teens get to do and then when we get the chance we go all out lol
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    (Original post by MiszshorTea786)
    If sex was so abhorrent it would not be in the Holy Quraan itself. That would also be concealed. Allah would not have mentioned it or shown us via Hadhrat Adam(AS) and Hadhrat Hawa(AS) on how to reproduce as such.

    Its been mentioned quite explicitly and nowadays scholars are more open to it than ever.
    then tell me why is it a sin to have sex outside of marriage?
    why is it a sin to masturbate ?
    why is there such a strong emphasis on men not looking at the female body?
    why is there such a strong emphasis on the fact that the female body is sexual?

    There's a reason why Saudi Arabia has some of the highest rape levels...
    In the west a women's arms or legs being exposed doesn't lead a man to have uncontrollable sexual urges and desire, only very conservative Muslim Men have a huge problem with the female body because they've been told by Islam that the female body itself is a sin, and only permissable within marriage so they objectify and degrade non muslim women calling them sluts and whores. They are just sex deprived...

    btw this is not a debating thread, I got a bit carried away.. if you wanna debate start a new thread.
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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    well what Islam regards as sinful are generally perfectly humane and natural things, they aren't things to be ashamed about like sex and sexuality and the female body which is censored at obscene levels.
    no no no no. You have literally got it all wrong. I have pmed you if you want any answers to any questions about Islam, I am hear. I am always here for you no matter what xxx
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    (Original post by No1 PIMP)
    That's sad to hear!

    Do all non-Muslim really go to hell, or does Allah make any exceptions for the good apples, or do they all get thrown in the basket?
    well its a widely acceptecd view that you only go to heaven if you're muslim and if you're non muslim you will burn in hellfire for eternity infact ive studied islamic theology partly but froma young age the sickening terrrifying punishments of hell have been described to me, it's like god is a sadist. although people belive this, theres this idea that you never know whose going to hell which creates moral confusion and poor muslims live their lives in utter fear and hopelessness because they have no idea cuz you might even go to hell exposing a strand of your hair or for swearing or for misusing a pen. That is the sickness of Islam
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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    thank you!! You're arguments about islam on TSR have really helped me to be more sure about my decision
    hopefully when I start uni this September and move out. Wish me luch that I'll acc be able to go because my parents might force me to stay at home.
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    I'll kill myself if they do


    Good luck with that! Even if they force you to stay at home, don't give up, otherwise they win. Once you graduate you can get a job and save up until you can buy or rent a house. And then you can do what you like without them controlling you
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    I really can’t be asked tonight. It would also massively derail the thread
    You and her have debated enough the last few weeks the last at lifetime :lol:
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    (Original post by Ninja Squirrel)
    You and her have debated enough the last few weeks the last at lifetime :lol:
    At least it's something active to do on the internet rather than just scrolling through post after post without ever getting involved :lol:
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    At least it's something active to do on the internet rather than just scrolling through post after post without ever getting involved :lol:
    It's funny that she called you out as not having an answer lol, I think everyone here knows you're more than capable of putting up a good argument to just about anything religion related.

    I think MiszshorTea786 is bored and wants another juicy debate 😁
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    How much is people patronising and trying to educate you on islam, something you are clearly very educated in, making you want to go back?

    People act like if you want to leave then you’re in the wrong and you’ve somehow missed something. It sounds like you’ve made an educated decision and I hope you get to a place where you feel comfortable in what you wear, whatever you choose.
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    lol, my parents knew I was atheist but they didn't care. we always had debates about Islam (the main religion in the household) and they agreed that I did have some valid questions. although they did encourage me to like Islam more, they didn't force me. all in all, they didn't care.
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    (Original post by justanotherchica)
    Ex Muslim, forced hijabi
    ask me any question you like
    Which denomination were you?
    Also, do you worry about any of the potential repercussions if you came out as a non-believer to your family?
 
 
 
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