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Reply 260
romac
Just got a quick question, it relates to Chinese Studies but I'm sure anyone doing Japanese can help. I'm just looking at the Teaching Timetable, trying to devise some form of personal timetable to help me with my module choices but I'm a bit unsure if I'm attending all the Chinese Language 1 lectures/seminars. There's loads of them. At first I assumed they split people up and I'd only be going to half of the ones listed but now I'm not sure.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to know which ones I'm going to and in that case I can't really pick my modules because I don't know the timings of my core modules, if you get me.

Anyone got any advice? I'm sure it's a very simple solution!


Hmmmm. They are split up into two groups. I think you get 6 hours of Chinese. Basically, SEAS should inform you if you have floaters. But regardless they will happily move the groups around for you if there are clashes with your other modules.

For Japanese you get 9 lessons for the first year I think. Two with Kitakka, two with Ishiwata (who I saw roaming around the union today), two with Arai (desu ne) and three grammar classes with the Übermensch herself.
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To Manchester?

Woooooooooo exciting :woo: . You excited Tim!? Wowow so close ain't it..


any open days in general, as I went to most of them last year (school year) :P - I suppose things could change
Oh right. Ain't that a bit early? Or not. Can't remember. Done your PS yet or filled out any of your UCAS form? How are other people's coming along too?
Reply 263
I haven't written my PS yet!! I'm putting it off so badly; I'm worried that when I get round to it I'll just have nothing to write.
Reply 264
hey what happens if you dont really know the hiragana / katakana scripts when you start?
You're done for :wink: Nah well are you starting this year or going for next year? If it's this year, how much do you know?

kimoso - Well I didn't write mine until a lot later. Get some drafts done as I did quite a few I remember. Sure you'll get in.
Reply 266
quue2
hey what happens if you dont really know the hiragana / katakana scripts when you start?


sensei ni shikarareta. You get told off by sensei.

From day one, everything will be in kana - so when you have your first grammar class you will be struggling to read anything on the sheet. If you don't know the kana by two weeks, they will ask you to reconsider your selection of course.

And I am not joking btw.
gaijin
sensei ni shikarareta. You get told off by sensei.

From day one, everything will be in kana - so when you have your first grammar class you will be struggling to read anything on the sheet. If you don't know the kana by two weeks, they will ask you to reconsider your selection of course.

And I am not joking btw.


Sorry does that mean:

1) You didn't learn it properly before coming to Uni and you still don't know it so well, so they'll ask you to reconsider?
OR
2) You learnt it all before Uni, but are struggling with everything being in kana, and if you're not fluent/completely confident or whatever in it after 2 weeks, they'll ask you to reconsider?

If you get what I'm trying to say at all.
Reply 268
University terms dates are very close now! Must be an exciting time for all of you going to university this year.

I was just re-reading this thread, and one question I would like to ask all of you is how come you decided to study Japanese at university. When I tell people what I am studying they are often very surprised, but I guess this is understandable as it is a pretty obscure degree in comparison to something like History. So, why Japanese! When meeting fellow foreigners out in Japan this is generally a question that is brought up at some point and what is interesting is that usually each answer is very unique.
I'm off to find a job but I'll reply when I get back - need to ring a friend after too. But this evening. Also want to hear how Japan is :biggrin:
Reply 270
Fran, basically if you can't read and/or write kana very well in two weeks you'll be asked to switch courses. You'll find out soon enough, because when sensei asks you to read something it'll be in kana. They write everything in kana - so you're going to pretty lost if you don't understand any of it by the time the course starts.

Raguna
University terms dates are very close now! Must be an exciting time for all of you going to university this year.


I'm bricking it. And I've survived the first year!


I was just re-reading this thread, and one question I would like to ask all of you is how come you decided to study Japanese at university. When I tell people what I am studying they are often very surprised, but I guess this is understandable as it is a pretty obscure degree in comparison to something like History. So, why Japanese! When meeting fellow foreigners out in Japan this is generally a question that is brought up at some point and what is interesting is that usually each answer is very unique.


Friend of a friend works in Durham. And I went up there occasionally to see him and ended up meeting some Japanese people who were there on a Teikyo exchange programme at Durham uni. Befriended a lot of them and in the coming months found myself making loads of Japanese friends. After meeting a friend called Peter who lived in Japan for 18 months as an civil engineer and a guy called Yousuke from Gifu I ended up travelling there for about 3 weeks on a small tour of Asia to see my family. Loved it and came back in the summer of 2005 all set to study it. However it was the next summer that I truly decided to start studying it at an advanced level and make the decision to do it at uni when I met so more Japanese friends of friends in California. Been studying it since 2006 I reckon and tearing my hair out ever since.

Obviously I've been vaguely fascinated by Japanese culture as most people have. However I dislike certain aspects of it. Its these dislikes that drives the interest even further. I suppose I've always wanted to study a FL and Japan is one that has appealed to me since I was little I guess. That and Russian.

Its weird because a lot of my Japanese friends are confused when I say I prefer the countryside and rural areas of Japan rather than the glitzy metropolis of Tokyo. I really am a henna gaijin in that respect.
franpgb
Oh right. Ain't that a bit early? Or not. Can't remember. Done your PS yet or filled out any of your UCAS form? How are other people's coming along too?


Dunno :p: loadsa people were going to open days at the end of last year (school year) so I thought maybe I should go see some too o.o.

Haven't touched my PS since my last PM haha and I've filled out bits and pieces of my UCAS form., not really completed anything though.
As for the kana thing, there were a few people in our group who kept trying to slowly romanise everything on their sheets with a chart next to them at the beginning of the course because they weren't that good with the kana yet. Doesn't take a genius to work out this is a bad idea, because you can't read anything without, and you're spending whole lessons distracted by doing that so you're not paying attention, and then by the time you're able to do them everyone else is weeks ahead already. Regardless of what the teachers think it's just not a good idea.

Raguna
University terms dates are very close now! Must be an exciting time for all of you going to university this year.

It would be if I wasn't dreading the flight. More than 24 hours including 4 and 5 hour stopoffs in France and Tokyo. When I'm past that maybe I'll be excited. At least I have no doubt this year will be much more interesting than the previous two. Well, that and worrying about what the flat's going to be like. 2 of our group have moved into their accommodation already in Tsukuba, Tokyo, and described it with the following words - Cockroaches, Fungus, rancid food, dirt everywhere. Hopefully that's an isolated example, but still, not exactly a vote of confidence there.
Reply 273
thefaceless
As for the kana thing, there were a few people in our group who kept trying to slowly romanise everything on their sheets with a chart next to them at the beginning of the course because they weren't that good with the kana yet. Doesn't take a genius to work out this is a bad idea, because you can't read anything without, and you're spending whole lessons distracted by doing that so you're not paying attention, and then by the time you're able to do them everyone else is weeks ahead already. Regardless of what the teachers think it's just not a good idea.


Useful tip which is what I'll tell the freshers soon enough, is to write vocab down in kana. It helps you remember it and recall it much quicker. Romaji is evil I tell you! EVIL! :evil:


It would be if I wasn't dreading the flight. More than 24 hours including 4 and 5 hour stopoffs in France and Tokyo. When I'm past that maybe I'll be excited. At least I have no doubt this year will be much more interesting than the previous two. Well, that and worrying about what the flat's going to be like. 2 of our group have moved into their accommodation already in Tsukuba, Tokyo, and described it with the following words - Cockroaches, Fungus, rancid food, dirt everywhere. Hopefully that's an isolated example, but still, not exactly a vote of confidence there.


That's Ibaraki for you! I'm intending to go by train next year anyway. :cool: It will certainly kill any jet lag problems. Only problem I have is getting my CoE sent to my temporary residence in China and then running across the border in time to get it issued it in Hong Kong. I also can't book my flights until I actually get my visa!

However, I've still yet to complete this year - so its all moot until half of us drop out or are killed by Christmas.

How many went to Japan in your year? Was it about 24?

I actually have heard of people going to Japan, having really bad experiences of it and end up dropping out AFTER going to Japan and not before it. Crazy!
Raguna: Err I think it started with a book I read when I was like 11 or 12. I know I've always been interested in Eastern culture though. Maybe it's because of what kanji looked like, or something as shallow as how different people looked to the whiteys of Britain. Different culture etc. Anyway this book..well I discovered this country called Japan and I liked the kanji.

Bla bla bla, maintained an interest through the years since but never really thought about learning the language though I do like languages. Didn't do well in GCSE at language though as I didn't revise - my rebellious phase at school :frown:

Was going to do Psychology at Uni as I wanted to be a Psychologist. Got a C at AS, realised it weren't meant to be (thinking about it I wouldn't be that good and I hate science), looked on UCAS Course Search and found Japanese. Wahooo there we go. I'm interested in the culture and society of Japan; and I like the literature actually. Don't know much about the history, but I like history in general so I'm sure I will - and of course I really want to know the language. I want to know a fair few languages to be fair, but I'll start with Japanese :biggrin:

How's Tokyo?!

SomeNextPirate: Ah I forgot you've already done a draft. Pah it's fine then - you're way ahead of where I was.

I'll have to make sure I know the kana amazingly then when I get back from travelling. I predict a low social life during the days to Uni. Euw that sounds er, pretty bad. Ahh well ok start for me then - I copied out all the vocab from books I've learnt the kana from (there are some weird words there, like long-nosed goblin I think) in hiragana. Not a romaji person myself.

You've heard of people dropping out because of the YA?! That's crazy that is. I've never been to Japan - maybe I should pop there for a bit or something. I still find it crazy how so many people drop out - I mean it's to be expected but it's still so high. Hmm, though it seems to motivate me even more. Saying that, I'll now blatantly drop out after the first year. Hope not. I'm hoping I will be a mature, hardworking, motivated woman when I come back from travelling..a lot pinned on this Gap Year then.
gaijin
Useful tip which is what I'll tell the freshers soon enough, is to write vocab down in kana. It helps you remember it and recall it much quicker. Romaji is evil I tell you! EVIL! :evil:

Are you doing the welcoming speech this year? And lol it is, can't stand romaji now. Proper kanji/kana or nothing!

However, I've still yet to complete this year - so its all moot until half of us drop out or are killed by Christmas. How many went to Japan in your year? Was it about 24?

Going by this list of allocations and taking off the 2 I know dropped out since, 27. Oh, and if it's any reassurance if your end of year exam is anything like ours, if you survive until christmas you won't drop out. No one failed the second end of year exam.

I actually have heard of people going to Japan, having really bad experiences of it and end up dropping out AFTER going to Japan and not before it. Crazy!

Crazy indeed... I can't see myself doing that, the third year is the one I've most been looking forward to since the beginning! Well, I'm kinda nervous about it now, but sure that'll go away when I'm there and settled in.
Reply 276
I wrote the first draft of my PS, yay! :smile:

It's soooo much over the limit though.. 5000 characters and that's even after I shortened it a bit :cry:
kimoso
I wrote the first draft of my PS, yay! :smile:

It's soooo much over the limit though.. 5000 characters and that's even after I shortened it a bit :cry:


Ha that's a lot, though at least you've done a draft now. How many characters is it supposed to be? How can it be that long anyway!? Oh well - you can cut it down at least.
franpgb
Ha that's a lot, though at least you've done a draft now. How many characters is it supposed to be? How can it be that long anyway!? Oh well - you can cut it down at least.


4,000.

Although in my experience it is the lines that are evil :rant:
Reply 279
Hi :biggrin:!

Just popping in to ask about personal statements considering people are talking about them?

I'm not necessarly taking Japanese however i'm applying for Korean/Chinese/East Asian studies. How do you go about writing a personal statement for the whole East Asian languages in general because i know that its impossible to find a example personal statement on it. Sorry if this is in the wrong place i just thought that people in this thread could help considering i am also applying to Sheffield~

Help would be much appreciated~ ^^ !