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    Okay, so reading over the thread there are several things jumping out at me, and I've been in some similar situations myself, so might be able to give some advice.

    1 - The issues with your mum. I know right now the main thing you want to do is get out of a toxic household, and I can understand that as it's something I've been trying to do for the last 3-4 years (and finally have managed). But going to uni isn't going to solve this problem. Don't go just because it's a chance to get away and start somewhere new; that's entirely the wrong reason to be going to university. Have you tried sitting down and discussing this with her, maybe getting some careers advice people to go over things with you both? As hard as it is to get away from parental expectations, you need to pay no heed to what she wants, and do what is best for you.

    2 - Work Experience. You don't know what you want to do with your life? Work experience. Look into sectors you're interested in - research, lab work, technician jobs, engineering jobs, something completely out-there - and try and get work experience in it. Try different things, see if anything clicks. You may not get paid for it, but a day or two trying out different things is a) a great way to meet new people, and b) a great way to get an idea of what things you might be interested in. Because, as people have said, liking GCSE physics is a completely different ballpark to working in a materials research lab or doing engineering.

    3 - Take some time out. It sucks. Believe me, I know. I was only there for 2-3 months of my AS Levels, after dropping 2 of them, due to illness. Then I moved college, and it still took me several attempts to get the grades I needed. But, I got them. I'm not happy it took that long, but the point is I kept at it until I got through it. If that meant taking a year-long break, I did it. If it meant swallowing humble pie and accepting that my friends will be in the last year before I even start, then so be it. It's hard, but don't get wrapped up in the timing of things. There is no maximum age for when you go to uni - there are people even on courses like medicine who decided in their 40s to have a change of career, so you undoubtedly will not be the oldest on your course while in your 20s. Other people will not give a damn, I promise. They're all too busy worrying about what they're doing with their lives to care whether you started uni at 18 or 38. That, and unis often look favourably on older applicants/mature students, as they have a lot more life experience, and have had longer to think about whether or not this is what they want to do. I've found there's a huge difference between the mindset of 18 y.o freshers, and maturer applicants: and I've picked that up just from interviews. Sometimes some time out to 'mature yourself' can do you a world of good, so that when you come back into things, you feel more confident in your decisions.

    4 - Make a list of things you don't want to do. It's really hard to give any sort of careers or education advice when you haven't even said, really, what you aren't looking to do. If you don't know what you like, then surely there must be things you know you don't want to do, be that working with children/elderly/animals, artsy jobs, office jobs etc.

    5 - Is physics really for you? Echoing what others have said in this thread: you're saying you like physics based on GCSE physics, but didn't take it at A Level, and are now applying to do a foundation degree in it at uni without really having experienced anything to do with it...? I'm not trying to put you off, but it sounds more like you like the idea of studying it, rather than actually studying it. You also said earlier in your thread that you're tired of doing research stuff - not sure whether you meant researching careers etc, or doing research tasks, but if it's the latter then a science subject really isn't going to be the most fun for you, as it's a lot of independent learning and research.
    If you want to do physics A Level, I would suggest looking at another sixth form or college. You really don't need A/A* in it to start at AS. If it's something you want to do, go for it! You'll do much better at a subject if you enjoy it, I've found.

    6 - Mental Health. I feel obliged to mention it any time someone is struggling during sixth form years, but have you spoken to a doctor or school counsellor about this? It's a good idea to flag up that you're feeling lost, apathetic, etc before things get too bad, as depression can be hard to shake once it has a hold. There's no shame or weakness in asking for help. I know it takes confidence, but it may well be worth your while just talking to someone about how you've been feeling. Getting it all out there and talking it through with someone may just help you see things a little clearer. Look after yourself.

    7 - Forget Uni Prestige. I don't know exactly what courses you applied to, but aiming for STEM degrees with very little background in science (even a foundation degree) at top universities may be a little too much, especially when they may very well be able to pick up on the fact that you don't know what you want to do. You'll be more likely to get accepted on a course if you can show you've looked into the field, done some personal study around it etc. Which goes back to my earlier point, and something others have said, in that volunteering and work experience is invaluable.
    Going to a non-top 30 uni doesn't mean you're not going to get anywhere. Make the most of the degree, make connections where you can, and work at it.

    Another thing I want to work out is: what don't you like about apprenticeships? I can understand if you have a specific career in mind, and can't do it via apprenticeships, but you can get uni degrees through them, while obtaining valuable experience, and earning a salary, and if you're looking to get away from home and/or get qualifications this seems like a pretty sound idea, as you can start saving to move out while learning. You can start them from any level, really. Have you looked into any, or just dismissed them up front?


    Edit:: Another thing I forgot to mention: have you considered doing some of the free courses through Open University just to get a taste of some topics that might interest you? You can do them in your own time, and while they don't lead to qualifications, at least you can say you've done them, which will help you find what you're into and also be something you can mention in a personal statement. At least then you can say you've snooped around!
    Hi, thanks for the in-depth advice and I will try to answer all the points above

    1. I have talked to my mum several times about this sort of thing to no avail, she is probably never going to change her mind and I can only at this point prove to her that whatever I decide to do is the right choice for me.

    2. I will do more research into gaining experience like this.

    3. Overall, I need to consider my priorities before i decide whether taking the necessary time out is needed.

    4. I already have a rough idea of the career paths that are not right for me as a person, I just need to get it onto paper.

    5. I didn't do physics for A-level because for the college that I wanted to go to, I didn't get the grade i needed to be able to do physics or any other supporting subjects.

    6. I have already talked to others about how I feel and for advice, but I still feel lost despite this. I have tried to get a pert-time job to distract my mind away from this but no no avail.

    7. When I was initially doing my UCAS application, I really wasn't focused over the prestige part of being in the uni's, I more-so just chose the ones that looked more appealing, I only really looked at predicted grades for each course I was applying for and should have done more research regarding the uni's themselves.

    Its not that I hate apprenticeships, its that I have this bias that there were only a few out there for specific roles.
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    Hi, thanks for the in-depth advice and I will try to answer all the points above

    1. I have talked to my mum several times about this sort of thing to no avail, she is probably never going to change her mind and I can only at this point prove to her that whatever I decide to do is the right choice for me.

    2. I will do more research into gaining experience like this.

    3. Overall, I need to consider my priorities before i decide whether taking the necessary time out is needed.

    4. I already have a rough idea of the career paths that are not right for me as a person, I just need to get it onto paper.

    5. I didn't do physics for A-level because for the college that I wanted to go to, I didn't get the grade i needed to be able to do physics or any other supporting subjects.

    6. I have already talked to others about how I feel and for advice, but I still feel lost despite this. I have tried to get a pert-time job to distract my mind away from this but no no avail.

    7. When I was initially doing my UCAS application, I really wasn't focused over the prestige part of being in the uni's, I more-so just chose the ones that looked more appealing, I only really looked at predicted grades for each course I was applying for and should have done more research regarding the uni's themselves.

    Its not that I hate apprenticeships, its that I have this bias that there were only a few out there for specific roles.
    Hi, I really want to echo point 5 from the previous post because it's something I don't think you're focusing on enough.

    I know you didn't get the grades to do physics A level, but that does not mean that you can't be researching physics before uni. Go on amazon and buy a couple of popular science books on a physics topic that sounds interesting to you. Go on new scientist and read about something cool. Even better, get hold of a physics or maths text book and start reading it and do a couple of questions to check you understand.

    The aim here is to work out whether you actually like/are good at the subject, because a really bad outcome for you would be to get partway through a degree and discover you're in completely the wrong subject and have to pick something else.

    It's likely the reason your PS was hard to write is that you don't really know much about the subject you're applying for, so you weren't able to explain why you like it. You can change that by doing more physics, as I described above.
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    As you can read in the title, I've applied for ucas with 5 choices and have so far been rejected by 4 of them, the fifth hasn't replied but i'm kinda worried and convinced that I will get rejected by it as well.

    Currently I am in year 13 and im studying Music Technology and BTEC Sports & Exercise Science. I did kinda *****y in my AS by getting D for Music overall, Failing sports science and getting a E in Politics, as a result I had to drop politics if I wanted to continue on to year 13. I enjoyed politics but during class I was completely baffled about what I was learning mainly cause I didn't ask my teachers for help. I kinda feel bad cause everyone else who didn't re-take they year kinda did well or okay and I go to a really good school where a bunch of them will probably end up in oxford or Cambridge, I'm also really antisocial and shy so cant really talk to many people about it as I find it really hard to talk to others about it.

    When it came to deciding to choose what I wanted to in the future, I decided to go into Physics as during my GCSE's, Physics was probably my favourite subject, also I didn't enjoy Sports Science as mush as I hoped and while I did enjoy music, I didn't think it would be worth it as a career choice so I will probably just keep as a hobby when I leave college. One problem, I wasn't doing Physics A-Level because I ****ed my GCSE'S up only getting 1A in History so I couldn't do Physics in my sixth form, also I pretty much had forgotten everything from GCSE about physics so when it came to writing my statement it was a thousand times harder for me, I felt out of place and lonely. Thankfully I talked to my sister who helped me out and put me on track by talking to me about foundation year's for physics if you didn't have the right grades, with the advice and help that she gave me along with the help of some friends, I managed to write my personal statement in around an hour, I gave it to my ref, he gave me a few corrections and I submitted it (a week before the January Deadline lol)

    A month and a bit has passed and here I am, with 4 rejections, no clear path for my future and a bundle of problems.

    I have quite bad depression which started when I started sixth form, my mum was very unhappy with my results during GCSE's which were 1A 7B's & 1E (in RE lmao) in my book thats pretty good but for my mum thats not good enough, shes really into being an academic and anything that isn't considered academic or not many people do is not that good for her so I was constantly getting harassed by my mum about how I did which pissed me off but at the same time she thought I was cursed and it was not my fault which is really weird and confusing but anytime i questioned her about it she looked at me like i'm a fukin idiot. Apparently in her country this type of stuff is normal but yeah. In this situation I only had my Sister who could help me out but even then it didn't always help cause were also in a bit of a financial struggle and my mum hasn't had a job for a while through no fault of her own which makes her anger and frustration understandable but at the same time it just makes it harder to cope. Now currently it had just affected my overall motivation to work and take part in certain activities, I'm unable to revise as there is a thought at the back of my head that I'm just gonna fail and nothing good will come of this.

    My sister has suggested that I go through clearing in the event that I don't get a uni spot but I just have this nagging doubt if i even will get a spot in a uni so i'm here to suggest any tips and advice and anyone else who may be going through the same thing I am.

    In the even I don't get a place, I'm gonna have to take a gap year, can anyone suggest any jobs I should go for, not the typical MacDonald's job or restaurant waiter job as I have had my share of disappointments looking for one
    UPDATE: I have been rejected from all of my original 5 Choices, for now I'm going to try Extra.
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    Hi. Well I have to say , I’m surprised they rejected you as you have a lot better grades than me. I left school 12 years ago with 4 C’s and I’m now doing an access course and I’ve applied for biology. I have no experience what so ever and find it all hard when I’ve been working with Horses and in a factory for several years . I didn’t care about school when I was there. Don’t have a family who are academic and I was the black sheep in the family who was into Horses and farming so that’s what I did then the money was no good so I got a well paid job in a factory. After a bad bout of depression last year I left. I’m now doing the access course . Think about if u even want to go yet. I know I didn’t . And that’s fine. I’m 28 now. And will be starting this year. Go try something else for a while. Live your life. I don’t understand how my friends did school, sixth form then uni then straight into say a teaching career . I’ve really enjoyed my years up until a few years ago when I lost my horse and close family and boyfriend etc. But I’m truing to rebuild myself . I still am not right. I have horrendous anxiety and depression but I’m trying to keep pushing on. All I’m trying to say, is don’t worry. You have a lot of years ahead of you to decide and try again. Good luck x
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    (Original post by Juvilation)
    UPDATE: I have been rejected from all of my original 5 Choices, for now I'm going to try Extra.
    Have you used extra yet? If so where did you apply to?
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    I did very poorly in my A-levels (due to being very anxious at the time) and couldn't go to uni, so I decided to do an apprenticeship. I didn't like many aspects the apprenticeship, but the two years I spent there really gave me some insight as to what I wanted to do with my life. I realised that I would be happier at uni, so I'm doing an Access to HE course in computing this year to go uni next year. I'd like to do Computer Science with AI in September. I would of never of dreamed of picking this 2 years ago, but taking time out of education let be think about what it is that I actually enjoy. I would look into degree apprenticeships as well since they seem a bit more stimulating than level 2 or 3 ones.

    Not going to uni really isn't the end of the world though. You can go at any stage in your life. A lot of universities are supportive to mature students who are passionate about the subject.
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    Hiya, got rejected by all of mine. Had super low grade boundries but had the school revised them. Called the uni I wanted to go to (Loughborough) and explained my issue but said I still really wanted to go. We worked out the options I had and I got put onto a 3 year course with an extra foundation year. It's worth phoning the uni you want to go to the most up and just seeing what your options are.
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    Have you used extra yet? If so where did you apply to?
    No, not yet, still thinking about stuff before I apply
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    (Original post by Juvilation)
    No, not yet, still thinking about stuff before I apply
    Ah fair enough, unless you're going to a top tier University I don't think it really matters where you go so long as it has a decent reputation and the course is accredited or has good industry links.
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    As you can read in the title, I've applied for ucas with 5 choices and have so far been rejected by 4 of them, the fifth hasn't replied but i'm kinda worried and convinced that I will get rejected by it as well.

    Currently I am in year 13 and im studying Music Technology and BTEC Sports & Exercise Science. I did kinda *****y in my AS by getting D for Music overall, Failing sports science and getting a E in Politics, as a result I had to drop politics if I wanted to continue on to year 13. I enjoyed politics but during class I was completely baffled about what I was learning mainly cause I didn't ask my teachers for help. I kinda feel bad cause everyone else who didn't re-take they year kinda did well or okay and I go to a really good school where a bunch of them will probably end up in oxford or Cambridge, I'm also really antisocial and shy so cant really talk to many people about it as I find it really hard to talk to others about it.

    When it came to deciding to choose what I wanted to in the future, I decided to go into Physics as during my GCSE's, Physics was probably my favourite subject, also I didn't enjoy Sports Science as mush as I hoped and while I did enjoy music, I didn't think it would be worth it as a career choice so I will probably just keep as a hobby when I leave college. One problem, I wasn't doing Physics A-Level because I ****ed my GCSE'S up only getting 1A in History so I couldn't do Physics in my sixth form, also I pretty much had forgotten everything from GCSE about physics so when it came to writing my statement it was a thousand times harder for me, I felt out of place and lonely. Thankfully I talked to my sister who helped me out and put me on track by talking to me about foundation year's for physics if you didn't have the right grades, with the advice and help that she gave me along with the help of some friends, I managed to write my personal statement in around an hour, I gave it to my ref, he gave me a few corrections and I submitted it (a week before the January Deadline lol)

    A month and a bit has passed and here I am, with 4 rejections, no clear path for my future and a bundle of problems.

    I have quite bad depression which started when I started sixth form, my mum was very unhappy with my results during GCSE's which were 1A 7B's & 1E (in RE lmao) in my book thats pretty good but for my mum thats not good enough, shes really into being an academic and anything that isn't considered academic or not many people do is not that good for her so I was constantly getting harassed by my mum about how I did which pissed me off but at the same time she thought I was cursed and it was not my fault which is really weird and confusing but anytime i questioned her about it she looked at me like i'm a fukin idiot. Apparently in her country this type of stuff is normal but yeah. In this situation I only had my Sister who could help me out but even then it didn't always help cause were also in a bit of a financial struggle and my mum hasn't had a job for a while through no fault of her own which makes her anger and frustration understandable but at the same time it just makes it harder to cope. Now currently it had just affected my overall motivation to work and take part in certain activities, I'm unable to revise as there is a thought at the back of my head that I'm just gonna fail and nothing good will come of this.

    My sister has suggested that I go through clearing in the event that I don't get a uni spot but I just have this nagging doubt if i even will get a spot in a uni so i'm here to suggest any tips and advice and anyone else who may be going through the same thing I am.

    In the even I don't get a place, I'm gonna have to take a gap year, can anyone suggest any jobs I should go for, not the typical MacDonald's job or restaurant waiter job as I have had my share of disappointments looking for one.

    UPDATE: I have been rejected from all of my original 5 Choices, for now I'm going to try Extra.
    There is more to life than going to university. Look into apprenticeships where you can get paid and learn at the same time. Different learning works for different people
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    UPDATE - got an offer from East Anglia, tnx to everyone who gave me help and support, I will be taking it very seriously.
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    UPDATE - got an offer from East Anglia, tnx to everyone who gave me help and support, I will be taking it very seriously.
    Wonderful, good luck.
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    Wonderful, good luck.
    Tnx
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    you're getting scammed still
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    you're getting scammed still
    How so?
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    you're getting scammed still
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