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    (Original post by RogerOxon)
    UC Berkley is just over $14k a year (in-state). However, the competition for top places in the US is insane, and includes school grades and extracuricular activites. A Masters is 6 years and includes a broader range of subjects (at almost all US universities)

    The UK system is competitive, but (typically) only on academic merit in subjects relevant to the degree. A Masters is 4 years and doesn't include other subjects.

    My son is at Imperial (£28k per year - Oxbridge is ~£30k). It's a far better university that he would have got into in the US, as he doesn't have pages of extracuricular activities, or a Nobel prize. It costs a lot more than a University of California would, but a little less than Stanford (very close to us) / Harvard etc.

    It depends, like you said.
    Yale for example cost $70,570 a year, https://finaid.yale.edu/costs-affordability/costs.
    I don't know which is the average price, and how much important is to pick a university that have a great position in rankings.

    I know very well the fact that in the US also non-academic activities are important, and I think that all the universities should always take in consideration this.
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    I know very well the fact that in the US also non-academic activities are important, and I think that all the universities should always take in consideration this.
    Why?
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    (Original post by RogerOxon)
    Why?
    Because sometimes volunteering activities can show the interest of a person in a particular subject.
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    (Original post by ajj2000)
    These are not very free market countries. Capitalism isn't necessarily the same as free market or small government.
    Yes, you're right.
    Anyway, I always thought that capitalism is the best way to organize the society, but it seems that those countries are doing very well, without a full free market organization.

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    In state tuition fees (meaning you study at a state university in a state where you can prove residence are far less - maybe 20k a year. Also people study at community colleges for the first 2 years (these are far cheaper) and then transfer. Many of the more expensive schools give lots of scholarships - Harvard for example is free for low income families. Also American salaries for skilled people can be far higher than most places in Europe - particularly in fields like IT and medicine.
    Yes, they definitely are, but considering the cost of living, I don't know what to say.

    Anyway I noticed that about Harvard.
    What about others US universities?
    There are others that are free for low income families?
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    (Original post by WiSi)
    Because sometimes volunteering activities can show the interest of a person in a particular subject.
    Perhaps. However, in the US, you're expected to do extra curricular activities that are unrelated to what you want to study, e.g. demonstrate leadership. They expect schools to only produce 'leaders'!
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