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    My friend said that if you don't get the grades they may reject you, but say if you work your ass off and get top grades or the grades necessary, isn't it the law that one of those five universities of your choice have to accept you.

    Or can they all say no even though you've worked your ass off.

    Thank you in advance
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    (Original post by Efron)
    My friend said that if you don't get the grades they may reject you, but say if you work your ass off and get top grades or the grades necessary, isn't it the law that one of those five universities of your choice have to accept you.

    Or can they all say no even though you've worked your ass off.

    Thank you in advance
    You apply to five. Assuming you get offers, you make one your firm choice and another your insurance (ie backup) choice. The others are automatically rejected.

    If you get the grades for your firm they must accept you. If you miss your firm offer, they still might accept you eg if you don't miss by much.

    If your firm reject you, then your insurance consider you on the same basis. If you have met their offer you are accepted. If not, it's at their discretion.



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    (Original post by Efron)
    My friend said that if you don't get the grades they may reject you, but say if you work your ass off and get top grades or the grades necessary, isn't it the law that one of those five universities of your choice have to accept you.

    Or can they all say no even though you've worked your ass off.

    Thank you in advance
    It looks to me that you're not clear on the process.

    You apply to five universities.
    Between zero and five of those universities give you an offer, e.g. if you get AAA, you can come here.
    If you get zero offers and then if you "work your ass off and get top grades" no university will accept you as none made an offer.
    If you get more than one offer, you have to start choosing firms and insurance as ageshallnot explained.
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    (Original post by Efron)
    My friend said that if you don't get the grades they may reject you, but say if you work your ass off and get top grades or the grades necessary, isn't it the law that one of those five universities of your choice have to accept you.

    Or can they all say no even though you've worked your ass off.

    Thank you in advance
    Unfortunately, most people apply to uni before they have their grades.

    You apply from September-January of year 13, so you don't have A-levels yet. You do have predicted grades, GCSEs, a reference and a PS. You apply to up to 5 unis, and they accept or reject you based on these five factors. The deadline for this is before your A-level results.

    Once you have offers, you chose a firm and an insurance. Your firm has to accept you, if you have the grades. If not, and you have the grades for your insurance, they have to accept you.

    No uni has to accept you when you first apply. However, if you're sensible and target unis where you have the right academic profile, chances are you will get 5 acceptances.

    If you apply after A-levels, with the correct grades, it's very unlikely you'd be rejected. But you could be if you have an awful reference or some other factor that makes unis dubious.
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    (Original post by Efron)
    My friend said that if you don't get the grades they may reject you, but say if you work your ass off and get top grades or the grades necessary, isn't it the law that one of those five universities of your choice have to accept you.

    Or can they all say no even though you've worked your ass off.

    Thank you in advance
    No. They can reject you even if you've met the grade requirements. And there's no safety net enforced by UCAS as to the student having to have a place ready for them in September. There's no 'law' or anything. If you're at the bottom of the candidate list for each of the five unis, you have five rejections waiting for you.

    Of course, depending on your university and course choices, chances are that you'll get an offer from somewhere.
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    You reject 3 of your choices months before you get your results. One is your firm or top choice and a second is your insurance or second choice. If you get the grades for your firm you go to that uni. Your insurance should be lower than your firm. If you don't get into your firm but get into your insurance then you go there.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    No. They can reject you even if you've met the grade requirements. And there's no safety net enforced by UCAS as to the student having to have a place ready for them in September. There's no 'law' or anything. If you're at the bottom of the candidate list for each of the five unis, you have five rejections waiting for you.

    Of course, depending on your university and course choices, chances are that you'll get an offer from somewhere.
    I think it's the UK education authority that would not accept it by law if a student got all the grades but still didn't get accepted to one of their five choices in which they got the necessary grades to enter in.
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    (Original post by Efron)
    I think it's the UK education authority that would not accept it by law if a student got all the grades but still didn't get accepted to one of their five choices in which they got the necessary grades to enter in.
    Find me this 'law' by the 'UK education authority' and I'll accept it.

    Alternatively, stop believing the junk spouted by your friends.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Find me this 'law' by the 'UK education authority' and I'll accept it.

    Alternatively, stop believing the junk spouted by your friends.
    If they make someone an offer, and they accept the offer and then meet the conditions there's a binding contract. The offer holder will have a place at that university*

    *Sometimes they might cancel the entire course but that's rare.

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    If they make someone an offer, and they accept the offer and then meet the conditions there's a binding contract. The offer holder will have a place at that university*

    *Sometimes they might cancel the entire course but that's rare.
    Aye, but that's a contract. It's binding n stuff. The OP's asking about getting that offer in the first place
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Aye, but that's a contract. It's binding n stuff. The OP's asking about getting that offer in the first place
    I think OP is confused about the offer/firm/results timing and process. I've assumed they have applied and received offers with results pending (ie the normal order of things...).

    Ageshallnot has already answered anyway...

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    (Original post by Efron)
    I think it's the UK education authority that would not accept it by law if a student got all the grades but still didn't get accepted to one of their five choices in which they got the necessary grades to enter in.
    Have you applied to universities already? Are you sitting your A-levels this June?

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    (Original post by Efron)
    I think it's the UK education authority that would not accept it by law if a student got all the grades but still didn't get accepted to one of their five choices in which they got the necessary grades to enter in.
    OP - you’re mistaken. Even if you ‘got all the grades’ you could still end up without an offer. Though that should be unlikely if you’ve chosen a sensible mix of unis in your 5 choices.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Aye, but that's a contract. It's binding n stuff. The OP's asking about getting that offer in the first place
    I ain't talking about an offer, I'm not talking about putting your predicted grades, if you got the necessary grades finished and then apply for university, it's law that because you meet the right criteria then one of those five universities that you opt for need to accept you.

    That's the law in the UK educational authority, otherwise everyone can work there asses off and still not get a place every year evan though there getting the necessary A levels. The government has a responsibility to give you the opportunity to study in your contribution to study and get the necessary grades.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Find me this 'law' by the 'UK education authority' and I'll accept it.

    Alternatively, stop believing the junk spouted by your friends.
    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Find me this 'law' by the 'UK education authority' and I'll accept it.

    Alternatively, stop believing the junk spouted by your friends.
    hahaha omg, a Law to make sure people get into University hahaha what offence would this be then😂 What is OP talking, maybe, before going to University redo school lol
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    Have you applied to universities already? Are you sitting your A-levels this June?

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    No I'm talking a six month intensive access course in law that finishes in August, at September I will
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    Have you applied to universities already? Are you sitting your A-levels this June?

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    No I'm doing a six month intensive access course in law,
    It finishes in August I'll then apply for university in 2019 entry, I'm not sure how I can go this year.
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    (Original post by Efron)
    I ain't talking about an offer, I'm not talking about putting your predicted grades, if you got the necessary grades finished and then apply for university, it's law that because you meet the right criteria then one of those five universities that you opt for need to accept you.

    That's the law in the UK educational authority, otherwise everyone can work there asses off and still not get a place every year evan though there getting the necessary A levels. The government has a responsibility to give you the opportunity to study in your contribution to study and get the necessary grades.
    No university has a legal obligation to accept a student, regardless of their grades.
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    (Original post by Efron)
    I ain't talking about an offer, I'm not talking about putting your predicted grades, if you got the necessary grades finished and then apply for university, it's law that because you meet the right criteria then one of those five universities that you opt for need to accept you.

    That's the law in the UK educational authority, otherwise everyone can work there asses off and still not get a place every year evan though there getting the necessary A levels. The government has a responsibility to give you the opportunity to study in your contribution to study and get the necessary grades.
    Erm

    You put a somewhat convincing case as to why the law should change to guarantee you an offer

    But that isn't the status quo

    You'll probably get an offer anyway if you keep your choices reasonable
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    (Original post by Efron)
    I ain't talking about an offer, I'm not talking about putting your predicted grades, if you got the necessary grades finished and then apply for university, it's law that because you meet the right criteria then one of those five universities that you opt for need to accept you.

    That's the law in the UK educational authority, otherwise everyone can work there asses off and still not get a place every year evan though there getting the necessary A levels. The government has a responsibility to give you the opportunity to study in your contribution to study and get the necessary grades.
    (Original post by Efron)
    No I'm talking a six month intensive access course in law that finishes in August, at September I will


    No I'm doing a six month intensive access course in law,
    It finishes in August I'll then apply for university in 2019 entry, I'm not sure how I can go this year.
    Ok, so no there's no law or requirement for a university to make you an offer just because your achieved grades meet their typical requirements.

    However if you do meet the requirements then it makes getting an offer more likely. It doesn't make it guaranteed though.

    (JohanGRK looks like you were right in your assumption...!)
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    If they make someone an offer, and they accept the offer and then meet the conditions there's a binding contract. The offer holder will have a place at that university*

    *Sometimes they might cancel the entire course but that's rare.

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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    I think OP is confused about the offer/firm/results timing and process. I've assumed they have applied and received offers with results pending (ie the normal order of things...)
    I assumed that they were looking to apply next year and were worried about getting 5/5 rejections.

    Turns out that they'll have to revisit the terms of their access course, and whether or not it guarantees them a place at the university at which they did it.
 
 
 
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