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    Hello GCSE people!

    I'm in year 13 and due to start reading medicine next year. So as i did relatively good in my GCSEs i've had loads of people (irl and online) ask me for tips and revision help in general as well as very specific subject focused help.
    SO, what i wanted to do is make an online course thingy with: videos, notes, past paper exam qs, revision technique help thats subject specific and a few other bits and bobs to sell as an online course.

    This wont happens for this academic year obvs becuase i don't want to fail my own A-levels but its something i would consider doing next year or even during the summer

    WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS: would this be something useful that people would actually buy, assuming i price it sensibly? because i know you could literally teach yourself these techniques through trial and error like i did and still be fine but i though people might prefer everything organised, curated and presented in a easy to digest kind of way that they know they've covered everything for each subject?

    -would you buy?
    - why/ why not?
    - at what price (so how much would you be willing to pay to get the above (notes, videos, pp Qs, posters) for each subject?
    - any other comments?
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    There's already large and professional organisations (run by people experienced in this) that do the same thing. I don't see why somebody would go to you, really.
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    (Original post by PlayWithMarkers)
    There's already large and professional organisations (run by people experienced in this) that do the same thing. I don't see why somebody would go to you, really.
    very good point, i've personally tried using those organisations and the problem they have is that because theyre not students themselves, they do the exact same thing school does by not presenting the info in a way thats actually useful to someone taking the exam. theyre great for "knowlege/understanding " the content but not so good with techniques for gcse. i believe gcse is a matter of understanding what examiners want and giving it to them, anyone can do well if they know how and this is completely missed by those organisations that focus so much on the content without showing how to present your understanding to an examiner.

    hope i made any sense? but i do get your point
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    and i have one, i'm a tutor
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    I'd say it's a great idea and you should go for it. Be prepared to spend many hours though putting together the content. Taking onboard the whole course is far too much and will take years (by the end of which the specifications would have changed!)
    So think about starting with 1 subject and moving on from there. So far the ones I have come across (apart from the free ones) are Times tutorial and myGCSE.
    Times tutorial costs £99 a year covers english maths and science with every topic includes a small intro and interactive questions and answers but it's not board specific, very outdated and not well organised.
    myGCSE is board specific and uptodate, includes videos explaining the subjects, room for notes, practice questions and answers. The videos are brief and great for recaps on subjects. Cost £50.
    If I was you I would start with something similar to myGCSE for maths. You can do the popular board first (Edexcel, and may be add aqa later on). Do brief videos for each topic (that would be around 120 for Edexcel and include practice questions and answers. Maybe even add past paper questions per topic section. For something in that range a cost £50 to £70 / year would be fair.
    Remember that it's the parents you are selling these to and £50 is nothing in comparison with a £15000 year private schooling.
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    I think this would be so good, sometimes I feel lost in what to study and how to do it and from what you've said that's exactly what I would need, the problem is, is that the specifications will be changing and of course it'll be really hard for you to have to go through everything. I do think it's a good idea though.
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    There’s already an app called “Temple” (check it out) and it was made by past gcse students. I’m finding it rather useful revising for my GCSEs. However it focuses mainly on sciences. It’s also free of charge at the moment, so that might be hard to compete with. But I think if you focus on one area and do it well, (sciences maybe) then I can see it becoming successful. It would be a lot of work though so good luck.
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    (Original post by bluemuffin)
    There’s already an app called “Temple” (check it out) and it was made by past gcse students. I’m finding it rather useful revising for my GCSEs. However it focuses mainly on sciences. It’s also free of charge at the moment, so that might be hard to compete with. But I think if you focus on one area and do it well, (sciences maybe) then I can see it becoming successful. It would be a lot of work though so good luck.
    Thanks so much for feedback! would definitely need to consider making it free of charge or at least a few units free so people know what they're getting.
    quick questions, i see that temple is a mobile app with some really good graphics:

    1- do you prefer apps to online websites like say the mygcsescience page?
    2- does the way temple is designed (kind of like a game) with graphics/ visuals appeal to you when revising (as in would people prefer a game preface rather than a more serious focus on the content with not as much "fun"?
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    (Original post by Medicmba)
    Thanks so much for feedback! would definitely need to consider making it free of charge or at least a few units free so people know what they're getting.
    quick questions, i see that temple is a mobile app with some really good graphics:

    1- do you prefer apps to online websites like say the mygcsescience page?
    2- does the way temple is designed (kind of like a game) with graphics/ visuals appeal to you when revising (as in would people prefer a game preface rather than a more serious focus on the content with not as much "fun"?
    I enjoy using something that’s fun and interactive, while teaching me/testing me on challenging concepts. I find videos really useful as well, especially for sciences. It just has to have a good balance of both I think
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    (Original post by Medicmba)
    very good point, i've personally tried using those organisations and the problem they have is that because theyre not students themselves
    One could argue that this is a good thing. Teachers and students are not the same entities and on the whole, teachers are better at teaching than students are. While there is some merit to students explaining things in a way they understand to other students, they are not actually qualified to teach.

    These organisations not being students doesn't mean they don't know their target market.

    To answer the actual questions:

    Would I buy it? No. I wouldn't personally pay for information that can be found freely online providing I do a little work. Nor would I buy from someone unless I though I'd get something out of it. Additionally when I was a GCSE student I had no need to buy something like this, nor did I have money to do so. And to go back tot he first point, it would have been a poor investment imo because there's nothing I can't get for free elsewhere.

    Other comments: You don't seem to have a very clear idea of what you want to do. You mention several different things including videos, notes, past paper questions and revision techniques. Where would you actually host this? Would you have a YouTube channel for the videos and a blog for the rest of it? Are you just going to link to the past papers? This would become a very disjointed system that really sounds no different from me doing my own research. Is it going to be a full package that I can just buy and download? If so, you need to think about the platform costs. Is it going to be paid access or on a subscription basis? Nobody knows you, how do you intend to advertise? How do you intend to generate the money required to do all these things? Is there even a market for this? Why charge in the first place, are you trying to help people or make money? If you actually intend to look at this as a business venture then there are tons of issues that need addressing.

    The biggest issue I see though, you did relatively well in your GCSEs. Why would I pay a student who did relatively well when there are companies offering services like this professionally? Why would I even pay you when there are thousands of student blogs offering the same information for free?

    It's very difficult to answer the "Would you buy" question because there's so little information on it and you haven't really discussed why I would choose you over a professional service or a free student blog. It's not a bad thing to compete but right now, there's absolutely nothing that makes you stand out. That's my honest opinion, please don't take offense.
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    (Original post by Acsel)
    One could argue that this is a good thing. Teachers and students are not the same entities and on the whole, teachers are better at teaching than students are. While there is some merit to students explaining things in a way they understand to other students, they are not actually qualified to teach.

    These organisations not being students doesn't mean they don't know their target market.

    To answer the actual questions:

    Would I buy it? No. I wouldn't personally pay for information that can be found freely online providing I do a little work. Nor would I buy from someone unless I though I'd get something out of it. Additionally when I was a GCSE student I had no need to buy something like this, nor did I have money to do so. And to go back tot he first point, it would have been a poor investment imo because there's nothing I can't get for free elsewhere.

    Other comments: You don't seem to have a very clear idea of what you want to do. You mention several different things including videos, notes, past paper questions and revision techniques. Where would you actually host this? Would you have a YouTube channel for the videos and a blog for the rest of it? Are you just going to link to the past papers? This would become a very disjointed system that really sounds no different from me doing my own research. Is it going to be a full package that I can just buy and download? If so, you need to think about the platform costs. Is it going to be paid access or on a subscription basis? Nobody knows you, how do you intend to advertise? How do you intend to generate the money required to do all these things? Is there even a market for this? Why charge in the first place, are you trying to help people or make money? If you actually intend to look at this as a business venture then there are tons of issues that need addressing.

    The biggest issue I see though, you did relatively well in your GCSEs. Why would I pay a student who did relatively well when there are companies offering services like this professionally? Why would I even pay you when there are thousands of student blogs offering the same information for free?

    It's very difficult to answer the "Would you buy" question because there's so little information on it and you haven't really discussed why I would choose you over a professional service or a free student blog. It's not a bad thing to compete but right now, there's absolutely nothing that makes you stand out. That's my honest opinion, please don't take offense.
    No, this is really good, i'm not taking offence; the whole point of me making this thread is to get feedback before i jump into this blind, im seeing feasibility and gaps i haven't had the foresight to see but others have, so thank you.

    This is still in the very early stages (in fact this is in the random thoughts in my head stage ) Now, to address a few of your points:

    1. why would i buy if i could find it all online: true, but your paying for the opportunity cost; you could soend hours online, finding a whole array of things that may or may not be exam board specific, gcse level, or even if it ticks all the boxes you may still be worried that your missing a piece of info that your required to know that you may not even realise. with this system, you are guaranteed to cover all the content you need, without the time cost.

    2. i know this isn't for everyone and that's fine, many people would buy such a thing but many would especially if they were struggling at school or didn't understand they're teachers. the evidence that there is a market for this is in the fact that people do buy similar products as well as the general conversations on this topic on tsr

    3. in terms of being vague about what exactly im providing, again this is very early days and im still deciding but in general the idea is to have a website with vidoes explaining the content/topic, work through example qs in the vid, then have related qs to go along with it that are similar to exam qs. at some point, i would have actual past papers on the website but those would have to be "unlocked" by you actually covering the content before doing them (almost as a mock). along with this i might go on to make an app thats linked to the website (with the same graphics etc to make it not disjointed) the app would be less intense and be designed to use on the go (eg on the bus) so no vids on the app, just Qs/ tests (lke quizlet/ temple gcse) but this is very long term and may not even happen.

    4- regarding the biggest issue being that i did "relatively well" in GCSE, i said that to give an idea of my background, but at the risk of sounding arrogant, i actually did very well with 12A*s and an A. I would only do this thing for the subjects i got 100% in (sciences and maths)

    i've probably left a few things out, but this is the majority of what i would say.
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    (Original post by Medicmba)
    1. why would i buy if i could find it all online: true, but your paying for the opportunity cost; you could soend hours online, finding a whole array of things that may or may not be exam board specific, gcse level, or even if it ticks all the boxes you may still be worried that your missing a piece of info that your required to know that you may not even realise. with this system, you are guaranteed to cover all the content you need, without the time cost.
    I think you are severely overestimating the amount of work people need to put into their GCSEs. The vast majority of people who come out with Cs and above (so the general requirement to get into college) do so using basic revision techniques and what they've learned in class. GCSEs are not this big thing that require tons of preparation and effort.

    You also cannot guarantee that it covers all the content required. Content changes and you'd be forever needing to update it. Additionally you mentioned that one of your key points is that you were a student whereas these big companies are not. But that's not actually going to be true. By the time you get around to doing this you'll have done your GCSEs 1 or 2 years ago at the earliest. If you intend to keep updating it, you'll be 5 years out of date fairly quickly. You won't actually be a student and therefore won't really know what current students need.

    Despite attempts to teach everyone identically, each school will teach things slightly differently. Students at one school will have slightly different info to those at another school. In rare cases, that might be conflicting information. You can't account for this by yourself, especially since you'll have only experienced one perspective. Speaking of perspectives (I'm going on a tangent, if I wasn't already), if you are a top achiever how can you know that you are capable of explaining the information to other students? The problems faced by top students are completely different to those faced by "average" students.

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    2. i know this isn't for everyone and that's fine, many people would buy such a thing but many would especially if they were struggling at school or didn't understand they're teachers. the evidence that there is a market for this is in the fact that people do buy similar products as well as the general conversations on this topic on tsr
    That's fair, although you'll need to do real market research into this to determine why companies that offer these sorts of products are successful. I imagine there's a very specific market of parent (kids don't tend to buy these products) who are buying these products for their children in school. You not only need to market to them but you also need to convince them that you know what you are talking about and that your product is worthwhile.

    Additionally, knowing that a market exists is one thing, knowing if there is a gap in that market is another. If there is a gap, why hasn't it been filled? You're not the first person with this idea after all. Or is the market too saturated?

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    3. in terms of being vague about what exactly im providing, again this is very early days and im still deciding but in general the idea is to have a website with vidoes explaining the content/topic, work through example qs in the vid, then have related qs to go along with it that are similar to exam qs. at some point, i would have actual past papers on the website but those would have to be "unlocked" by you actually covering the content before doing them (almost as a mock). along with this i might go on to make an app thats linked to the website (with the same graphics etc to make it not disjointed) the app would be less intense and be designed to use on the go (eg on the bus) so no vids on the app, just Qs/ tests (lke quizlet/ temple gcse) but this is very long term and may not even happen.
    Even just making an interactive website is a lot of work. If you used an existing platform like wordpress you'd save some time but it's not a simple task. Do you intend to make all this yourself? If so you'll be learning website creation, web scripting and possibly things like database management if you intend to have user accounts that can log in. An app is even more complicated which would require you learn how to program Android and iOS apps. You're looking at hundreds of hours to even get a platform up and running after you've learned how to do so, let alone making content. Keep in mind that you won't be making any money at this point but will be spending out, possibly on things like web hosting. And as soon as you start taking people's money and keeping banking details you've got a whole host of other things to look into. Paying appropriate tax, staying legal, keeping personal data protected, keeping your service secure and so on. I'd recommend aiming a lot smaller, maybe start a blog first before even thinking about an app or getting payments.

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    4- regarding the biggest issue being that i did "relatively well" in GCSE, i said that to give an idea of my background, but at the risk of sounding arrogant, i actually did very well with 12A*s and an A. I would only do this thing for the subjects i got 100% in (sciences and maths)
    So you've gone from having all the information that a student needs, to only having information for a few subjects? That's good because it lowers your work requirements but bad because now you've got even less of an incentive for people to pay you. I'd say it's better to focus on smaller topics overall though.

    That said, only focusing on subjects you got 100% in makes no sense. That knowledge will be outdated by the time you get around to sharing it, or at least for Science it is likely that the syllabus will change. Maths I imagine will stay fairly similar, but you've only got knowledge of those subjects from when you were at school and with the particular exam boards you used.
 
 
 
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