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Fail At Add Maths?

Just a quick question I wanted to ask- I did Additional Maths during my GCSEs, and when it came to the exam, I didn't do very well- I got a U.

The thing is, I had had a chemistry exam the day before, and a physics exam the day after (or vice versa), and we only had the Add Maths lessons in Year 11, but will this look bad if I apply to Oxford? Will they say, 'oh, she failed Ad Maths, she can't be very good'? (I plan on applying for some sort of psychology course).

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Reply 1
just dont declare it on UCAS so they wont know. simple as. :biggrin:
Reply 2
KEconomist
just dont declare it on UCAS so they wont know. simple as. :biggrin:


Oh, I didn't realise you could do that! I'm so naive with all of this stuff.:p:

Thanks for the help! That's a relief.:biggrin:
Reply 3
Hi, I got a C for my add maths, and I have an offer for medicine at Cambridge--I don't think it matters that much, unless you're applying for maths of course! I was in the same situation as you, it was my last exam, I had done no revision, and only had a term of lessons. As long as the rest of your application is sound, you have as good a chance as anyone.
Reply 4
zedliv
Hi, I got a C for my add maths, and I have an offer for medicine at Cambridge--I don't think it matters that much, unless you're applying for maths of course! I was in the same situation as you, it was my last exam, I had done no revision, and only had a term of lessons. As long as the rest of your application is sound, you have as good a chance as anyone.


Heheh, a C is far better than a U!:p: I guess the one good thing that came out of it was experience of what the Maths A-level would be like, so it sort of helped me with my A-level subject choices.

I just don't get why they don't introduce Add Maths to Year 10's, to prepare them better and help them get a good grade at the end of it, because having that qualification can be beneficial.

Thanks for the help.:biggrin:
Reply 5
A U is not a grade - it's a fail and therefore doesn't count as a grade. In the eyes of the exam board you have achieved nothing, and therefore it doesn't require declaring.
Reply 6
^^^^that doesn't apply though if you get an actual grade, even if it's a pretty poor one- unfortunately you have to declare it.
Reply 7
Is that the Additional Maths FSMQ, or something else? If it's the FSMQ, I don't see how it's failable! All you need to do is revise for a couple of hours the night before, even if you never understood any of the content in the first place... Worked for me. :p:
Reply 8
I would definitely check up if you have to declare FSMQ or not. I can tell you that, even if you get a U in the AEA, you HAVE to declare it on UCAS. The whole "you don't have to declare Us" thing doesn't apply to all qualifications.

As far as applying to Oxford goes, if you're not applying for a mathematical subject, and have good GCSEs + ASs, it won't matter too much.
Reply 9
Even if you do "have" to declare the grade, you can always "forget" to put it on your ucas form! Like what i did wth my Critical thinking grade - My head of sixth form didn't even care, it quite easily 'slipped through' and i got 4 /5 offers! So good news.
HCD
Is that the Additional Maths FSMQ, or something else? If it's the FSMQ, I don't see how it's failable! All you need to do is revise for a couple of hours the night before, even if you never understood any of the content in the first place... Worked for me. :p:


I honestly don't know. We weren't taught very well in the first place, and Add Maths was definitely at the bottom of my priority list- with a physics exam the next day, and knowing that I wanted to do physics A-level, I figured it would be better to do well in the physics exam than in the Add Maths exam.

I regret not revising for it now, but that's hindsight for you.

Swayam- According to some website, you don't have to declare it if it's a fail, but you do if it's a passable grade, even if it's an E. So, I guess it sounds like I don't have to declare it at all! At least, I hope not.
Reply 11
Well someone i know got a D at spanish and got an offer from cambridge for medicine, he didnt declare his spanish GCSE.
Reply 12
Joe555
Even if you do "have" to declare the grade, you can always "forget" to put it on your ucas form! Like what i did wth my Critical thinking grade - My head of sixth form didn't even care, it quite easily 'slipped through' and i got 4 /5 offers! So good news.

Why run the risk of losing your offers, though, just to withhold a grade which will most likely be considered irrelevant by universities anyway?:confused:
hobnob
Why run the risk of losing your offers, though, just to withhold a grade which will most likely be considered irrelevant by universities anyway?:confused:


Can you lose your offers if you withold a grade? Even if it's for a relatively unimportant subject?:confused:
If the information on your UCAS is incorrect, you have falsified the document, and the contract between you and the universities is invalid, and they are perfectly entitled to withdraw offers if they so wish.
Reply 15
I would definitely check up if you have to declare FSMQ or not. I can tell you that, even if you get a U in the AEA, you HAVE to declare it on UCAS. The whole "you don't have to declare Us" thing doesn't apply to all qualifications.
But if you completely fail an exam, as in get a U, you don't have a qualification to declare, and hence have nothing to put down. Who told you that you have to declare your failed AEA?
Reply 16
thomasjtl
But if you completely fail an exam, as in get a U, you don't have a qualification to declare, and hence have nothing to put down. Who told you that you have to declare your failed AEA?


First my maths teacher. But I didn't believe him so I checked with my examination officer and he also said I'd have to declare it. I still refused to believe them so I phoned up UCAS and they also said I'd have to declare it.
Reply 17
SylverStrike
I honestly don't know. We weren't taught very well in the first place, and Add Maths was definitely at the bottom of my priority list- with a physics exam the next day, and knowing that I wanted to do physics A-level, I figured it would be better to do well in the physics exam than in the Add Maths exam.

I regret not revising for it now, but that's hindsight for you.

Swayam- According to some website, you don't have to declare it if it's a fail, but you do if it's a passable grade, even if it's an E. So, I guess it sounds like I don't have to declare it at all! At least, I hope not.


"The Next Day" should mean it's unimportant to revise until the day before! :p: Ah well, too late now I suppose!
HCD
"The Next Day" should mean it's unimportant to revise until the day before! :p: Ah well, too late now I suppose!


I see your point!:p: But I was doing Triple Science and my physics exam was the only physics exam we'd had over two years, so my entire GCSE physics grade depended on how well I did on that exam.:s-smilie:
Reply 19
SylverStrike
I see your point!:p: But I was doing Triple Science and my physics exam was the only physics exam we'd had over two years, so my entire GCSE physics grade depended on how well I did on that exam.:s-smilie:


I did triple science; same laws apply. :wink: I went through the FSMQ not knowing what the hell was going on, got an E in the mocks. The thing is, it was very short on content. A few hours the day before would have sorted you out with an easy A!