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    (Original post by Duncan2012)
    Apart from ‘fewer books in the library’ would you care to provide some evidence to back up your claims in your first paragraph please?
    My first paragraph is about employers and was unrelated to the books - so which would you like me to back up?
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    (Original post by hysterria)
    Hi TSR,

    I have an offer from a very prestigious RG uni, top 10 in the UK. Obviously I should be happy about having the opportunity to go to such a great uni, but I'm seriously considering turning it down in favour of a much less prestigious university (about 30 places lower in the league tables).

    I've visited both unis and preferred the less prestigious one, because it's more of a campus uni, all a bit more small-scale, and the staff were much more friendly. It seemed to be a place that suits me better, and I also prefer the course content. It's also quite highly regarded for my course, hmore so than the RG uni. However, I do think that the people at the RG uni will be more academically inclined and since I'm quite academical myself, maybe it'll be easier for me to make friends there. And I've just read so much about attending a good uni really helping in further study/employment, so maybe it'd just be plain stupid to turn the RG uni down.

    I'm really unsure of what to do, advice would be more than welcome
    At the end of the day, your happiness and willing to go to lectures in the morning is what will decide your motivation to study and do well. Go with whats in your gut - it might be a prestigious uni, but it wont mean nothing if you dont enjoy it and mess your grade up because it.
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    You like the city of Aberdeen more than Edinburgh?

    Is this real life?
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    (Original post by Ropucha)
    My first paragraph is about employers and was unrelated to the books - so which would you like me to back up?
    Exactly what I asked in my previous post.

    You did refer to ‘further study’ in the first paragraph btw, hence my reference to the books. How many did you count in each library?
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    (Original post by Duncan2012)
    Exactly what I asked in my previous post.

    You did refer to ‘further study’ in the first paragraph btw, hence my reference to the books. How many did you count in each library?
    I don't really see why you're being so rude, and you're still being unclear - are you asking about facilities or employers?

    Books I needed for my course and research were frequently unavailable in the KCL library, so I had to return to my undergraduate library at UCL to find the books I needed. Obviously, I didn't count them.

    With regard to employers - as a graduate currently applying for jobs, one of the first questions I'm asked when I meet representatives of employers is where I studied, and the reaction when I tell them is always overtly positive. One employer had a special extended deadline for UCL graduates. The careers service at the institution where I am currently completing a professional qualification also asks the same question - it's important. I know that in the field I'm going into, attempting to get a position without a RG degree is very difficult. An acquaintance studying at London South Bank has received a number of near-immediate rejections applying for graduate schemes - suggesting that she has been automatically filtered out.
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    (Original post by MathSci1999)
    Thanks so much for your detailed response.

    I think it comes down to the likeliness of getting to the top companies in the energy/oil/gas industry. Like i know obviously it depends on the individual but based on the either uni will i be disadvantaged going to one over the other? how do the top companies in this industry view both?

    i know if i wanted to go to IB then UCL would be the obvious choice, but i am 100% certain i want to do something related to energy/oil/gas industry, pure engineering industry, not just cash out with IB.
    If this is the case, there's no clear winner between UCL and Brum.

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    (Original post by chazwomaq)
    You like the city of Aberdeen more than Edinburgh?

    Is this real life?
    Right?

    Been there for 10 years, it's pretty abysmally boring.

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    If this is the case, there's no clear winner between UCL and Brum.

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    What do you mean?
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    (Original post by MathSci1999)
    What do you mean?
    There is no premium to going to either UCL or Brum over the other within Oil and Gas.
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    (Original post by Ropucha)
    Having a prestigious university on your CV really is a huge help later on. It is likely to make your life easier when applying for jobs or further study. Employers don't really know how well regarded a university is for a specific subject unless it's really closely related to what they do. Prestigious names really have a lot of cachet with most employers.

    You might also feel the difference in funding - I moved from an very prestigious university where I did my undergraduate course to a slightly less prestigious (but still excellent) university for my Master's, and definitely felt that certain facilities were slightly worse at the second, e.g. fewer books were available in the library etc.

    A lot of your socialising happens outside of your course through sports and societies, so really it's likely that you'll fit in better somewhere more academic.
    These are exactly the three things I think make the prestigious university the more attractive option - I'm just not sure exactly how big the difference will be between the two unis. Thanks for your reply!

    (Original post by chazwomaq)
    You like the city of Aberdeen more than Edinburgh?

    Is this real life?
    Ahah, I understand what you mean! It's not necessarily liking the city more, in fact I'm quite worried about being far away from everything, especially concerts and stuff. I'm just from a very small town and I felt as though Edinburgh was like a bloody theme park. So many people, so many shops, so many things to see. Maybe I'm just lame but I felt kind of overwhelmed? Also there's the campus, I like the fact that Aberdeen's a campus uni, whereas in Edinburgh you'll have so many different places where the buildings are at! I do think that I could get used to Edinburgh, and that similarly Aberdeen could get boring. I guess all I can do is wait and see .
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    Get in touch with the HR/recruitment teams at the companies you'd like to work with and ask their opinion. Should only take an afternoon or so on the phone and you'll have a much more reliable response than anything anyone in TSR could tell you
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    And then it would be extremely helpful if you could report back with what Shell/BP/etc have to say about it
    Thanks for the tip, i never thought about that.

    Ive just been on the phone to BP graduate department.

    They told me that the university you go to plays no part in whether you get the role of not. They said everyone is free to apply online and that in fact they literally dont look at the university you have gone to, whether that be the best or worst for that subject or as a whole. They only judge the application by the competence of the individual, so what grades they have achieved whilst at university, work experience( if any ), and the person themselves and that the uni has nothing to do with it. The guy basically told me to go where i wanted to go to and rest assured that the university name wont define the job i get, but what will define it is how much i develop myself whilst at university using the available resources and through hard work.


    Thats made my choice really easy, thank you so much to everyone that helped
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    (Original post by MathSci1999)
    Thanks for the tip, i never thought about that.

    Ive just been on the phone to BP graduate department.

    They told me that the university you go to plays no part in whether you get the role of not. They said everyone is free to apply online and that in fact they literally dont look at the university you have gone to, whether that be the best or worst for that subject or as a whole. They only judge the application by the competence of the individual, so what grades they have achieved whilst at university, work experience( if any ), and the person themselves and that the uni has nothing to do with it. The guy basically told me to go where i wanted to go to and rest assured that the university name wont define the job i get, but what will define it is how much i develop myself whilst at university using the available resources and through hard work.


    Thats made my choice really easy, thank you so much to everyone that helped
    Excellent news :yes:

    Thanks for sharing what they said.
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    (Original post by MathSci1999)
    Thanks for the tip, i never thought about that.

    Ive just been on the phone to BP graduate department.

    They told me that the university you go to plays no part in whether you get the role of not. They said everyone is free to apply online and that in fact they literally dont look at the university you have gone to, whether that be the best or worst for that subject or as a whole. They only judge the application by the competence of the individual, so what grades they have achieved whilst at university, work experience( if any ), and the person themselves and that the uni has nothing to do with it. The guy basically told me to go where i wanted to go to and rest assured that the university name wont define the job i get, but what will define it is how much i develop myself whilst at university using the available resources and through hard work.


    Thats made my choice really easy, thank you so much to everyone that helped
    Excellent. That's exactly howitoughttobe...

    Thanks for updating us
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    Excellent. That's exactly howitoughttobe...

    Thanks for updating us
    That's one graduate scheme. They "don't look at the university name" yet you've all claimed accreditation matters 🤔 seems like you can't get your story straight.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    Glad to see we agree after all. :yep:
    Lol you actually went through my other posts in a desperate attempt to undermine me? That's pathetic 😂 But it doesn't change anything, industrial experience is more valuable than the degree but it doesn't change the fact that degrees from different universities aren't equal. You're comparing apples and oranges, just accept that you were wrong, I'm embarrassed for you.
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    I am in neuroscience (PhD student; graduated BSc 2011) and the people around me now got their degrees from a huge range of places.

    Don't pay attention to rankings in this case - go with where you will be happiest and you'll get more out of it
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    (Original post by howitoughttobe)
    That's one graduate scheme. They "don't look at the university name" yet you've all claimed accreditation matters 🤔 seems like you can't get your story straight.
    Unbelievable. So one of the largest O&G employers in the world is dismissed by you, a final year undergraduate, even when the statement exactly supports the opinion of a number of posters who are currently working in industry. Have you ever considered perhaps you might be wrong on this?

    And actually the accreditation aspect matters more to the student and their future ability to gain charter status, than the hiring employer.

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    (Original post by howitoughttobe)
    industrial experience is more valuable than the degree
    Where did you do yours? Was it useful? Enjoyable?

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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    Unbelievable. So one of the largest O&G employers in the world is dismissed by you, a final year undergraduate, even when the statement exactly supports the opinion of a number of posters who are currently working in industry. Have you ever considered perhaps you might be wrong on this?

    And actually the accreditation aspect matters more to the student and their future ability to gain charter status, than the hiring employer.

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    Mate you've completely changed your story, do you think maybe it's you who's wrong?

    And how do you know I'm in my final year? Are you stalking me or something?
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    (Original post by howitoughttobe)
    Mate you've completely changed your story, do you think maybe it's you who's wrong?

    And how do you know I'm in my final year? Are you stalking me or something?
    Which story have I changed? I've consistently said it's a good thing to have an accredited degree for engineering. And If your definition of "prestige* is offering accredited degrees then I can support that too.

    By the way, its a public forum.
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