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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    When I am factually disadvantaged at getting places in some universities and schemes due to my race I would say that is a textbook case of racism and opression.
    yes your white male privalidge is being yanked away and it hurts
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Or when you are privileged having your privilege threatens feels opressive. :beard:
    Those who talk about somebody having privileges are usually people who failed to achieve something and blame society for that. Or just people who already achieved something but felt that it was difficult. Or people who just have a lot of free time. Choose the one.
    Even if that interview the question (stupid though) was asked whether it is fine to battle for the higher position. LoL. As if you should get anything on the silver plate.

    Also I can understand the idea about not liking migrants - they are ready to work for lower wages (thus no increase expected), with more foreign people you have to compete with more people for the position (China as example).

    (Original post by Haviland-Tuf)
    So it is no surprise the majority of his supporters and indeed those who purchased Jordan's self-help book "12 Rules for Life: An antidote to chaos" are radicalised young men.
    On what did you base your assumption?


    (Original post by Death and Taxes)
    He is an anti-PC version of Slavoj Zizek. It seems a lot of easily influenced men can not see beyond the main quality he shares with Zizek, namely pseudo-intellectualism.
    Yeah yeah clinical psychologist with years of experience is definitely less intelligent than you average PC blogger who recently (or hasn't done yet) graduated from the uni.
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    I don’t even really know who he is. Stumbled across 2/3 of his videos on youtube accidently. Got to say the guy really annoys me. Seems like his target audience is betas who always tried to turn alpha but never made it. And they never will either. It’s an innate trait.
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    (Original post by TrelaiBoy)

    I don't disagree that being a white man is beneficial, but the way you've framed that sounds very dismissive of any problems a young white man may have and leads to them gravitating towards someone like Peterson
    As a white straight man with a **** tonne of problems I am fully aware of this. I'm 25, unemployed and live with my parents and I have had no girlfriend ever. AS a teenager I used video games as a coping mechanism for life. The lure of the red pill should be iresistable.

    For some reason I never gravitated to the right though. Quite the opposite.

    It probably explains why I have so little sympathy to racist and sexists nerds.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    As a white straight man with a **** tonne of problems I am fully aware of this. I'm 25, unemployed and live with my parents and I have had no girlfriend ever. AS a teenager I used video games as a coping mechanism for life. The lure of the red pill should be iresistable.

    For some reason I never gravited to the right though. Quite the opposite.

    It probably explains why I have so little sympathy to racist and sexists nerds.
    Stupidity is to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Your current strategy of prostrating yourself before your feminist overlords clearly hasn't been too sucessful so far.

    It's never too late to reclaim your balls mate.
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    (Original post by ilem)
    Stupidity is to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Your current strategy of prostrating yourself before your feminist overlords clearly hasn't been too sucessful so far.

    It's never too late to reclaim your balls mate.
    Or I'm not trying to use politics to get laid.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Or I'm not trying to use politics to get laid.
    Everything everyone does is directly and solely related to getting laid. It's what everyone is here for.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    yes your white male privalidge is being yanked away and it hurts
    Yup, all the white males who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and grew up in deprived areas being discriminated against, all so that non-whites from privileged backgrounds who were privately educated or went to good schools get further advantages when it comes to getting places at top universities. Because "muh white privilege", right?
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Yup, all the white males who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and grew up in deprived areas being discriminated against, all so that non-whites from privileged backgrounds who were privately educated or went to good schools get further advantages when it comes to getting places at top universities. Because "muh white privilege", right?
    That's called class and if you haven't noticed I'm a socialist. Don't worry I'm on it

    This is part of the problem though. The death of class based politics means poeple who do have real reasons to be pissed off don;t have any way to express it. When all liberalism is unable to address class issues, the right will swoop in and blame the darkies and womenz.
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    (Original post by ilem)
    Everything everyone does is directly and solely related to getting laid. It's what everyone is here for.
    https://news.sky.com/story/topless-w...italy-11276128

    Tell me what is not to like about that.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    That's called class and if you haven't noticed I'm a socialist. Don't worry I'm on it

    This is part of the problem though. The death of class based politics means poeple who do have real reasons to be pissed off don;t have any way to express it. When all liberalism is unable to address class issues, the right will swoop in and blame the darkies and womenz.
    That is indeed called class, well done. Now either privilege comes from class or it comes from your skin colour, choose one.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    That is indeed called class, well done. Now either privilege comes from class or it comes from your skin colour, choose one.
    Intersectionality will blow your mind.

    "
    Intersectionality is a theory which considers that the various aspects of humanity, such as class, race, sexual orientation, disability and gender, do not exist separately from each other, but are complexly interwoven, and that their relationships are essential to an understanding of the human condition. When systems of justice or other entities attempt to look at each aspect in isolation, then misconceptions may occur and essential understandings may be lost.[1][2] Rather than thinking of identity as a collection of separate elements, it is better understood if the elements are thought of as "inextricably linked" with each other, and that all aspects of identity are "integral, interlocking parts of a whole""

    In other worlds. We need fully automated gay space communism right now!

    Working class white men and feminist women should not be enemies. They should be comrades.

    AperfectBalance is lost to the enemy. He would rather side with the right and blame feminists than join the left and free himself from the matrix. But until them I must sadly treat him as the enemy.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    As a white straight man with a **** tonne of problems I am fully aware of this. I'm 25, unemployed and live with my parents and I have had no girlfriend ever. AS a teenager I used video games as a coping mechanism for life. The lure of the red pill should be iresistable.

    For some reason I never gravitated to the right though. Quite the opposite.

    It probably explains why I have so little sympathy to racist and sexists nerds.
    Different people gravitate towards different things, sometimes it just comes down to which link you select online
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    (Original post by TrelaiBoy)
    Different people gravitate towards different things, sometimes it just comes down to which link you select online
    Discovering Noam Chomsky was certainly a big rabbit hole to fall down for undergraduate daniel. All that time reading about Spannish anarchists instead of studying physics.:rofl:

    I equally fell down a Christipher Hitchens rabbit hole (Before Chomsky I think). Which given what a lot of his fan base is like... you would have tohugh ti could have gone the other way. Although he was an ex Trot so...Religion is the opiate of the people and all that.

    I think it is a character trait though. I always disliked bullies and kids who wouldn't share when I was a young whipper. Capitalism always seemed like a system that was unfair and I was on the receiving end of the boot. The notion of working to amke someone else rich seemed massivly depressing to me as a child and teenager. Socialism is generally a pretty good inoculation against rigth wing identity politics I think. You just generally find yourself allied to other marginalised groups and you have common ground with being opressed in some way. I had no particular reason to even think about Trans people, but you just end up being on the same side. We all want rid of the Tories. That was my experience anyway.

    It never even occured to me to start developing a hatred of women.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Intersectionality will blow your mind.

    "
    Intersectionality is a theory which considers that the various aspects of humanity, such as class, race, sexual orientation, disability and gender, do not exist separately from each other, but are complexly interwoven, and that their relationships are essential to an understanding of the human condition. When systems of justice or other entities attempt to look at each aspect in isolation, then misconceptions may occur and essential understandings may be lost.[1][2] Rather than thinking of identity as a collection of separate elements, it is better understood if the elements are thought of as "inextricably linked" with each other, and that all aspects of identity are "integral, interlocking parts of a whole""

    In other worlds. We need fully automated gay space communism right now!
    It's a popular buzzword that leaked from academia into mainstream culture, used now among leftists and minority fundamentalists who engage in white western guilt culture and victimhood Olympics.

    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Working class white men and feminist women should not be enemies. They should be comrades.
    Yet you make sweeping generalisations about white men having privilege (just like feminist women do all the time).
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    It's a popular buzzword that leaked from academia into mainstream culture, used now among leftists and minority fundamentalists who engage in white western guilt culture and victimhood Olympics.

    Yet you make sweeping generalisations about white men having privilege (just like feminist women do all the time).
    I'm useing the academic version and I gave you a definition. Consdiering the development of radical politics since the 60s it's seems a pretty crucial concept to undertand what has been going on in the last decades.

    You just used a load of right wing buzzwords.

    But I am a white male. I have first hand experience of my privilidge. Just of the top of my head. I never had to feel out of place doing Physics. Or put up with a load of young men making constant vulger sex jokes at me. I don't have to feel physically or verbally threatened from sexual assult and harrassment at work.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I'm useing the academic version. Consdiering the development of radical politics since the 60s it's seems a pretty crucial concept to undertand what has been going on in the last decades.
    Use whatever version you want, doesn't change the fact that the word is ambiguous and has no specific parameters. Taken out of the confines of academia and placed into society it becomes nothing more than a buzzword and an empty slogan.

    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    You just used a load of right wing buzzwords.
    Guilt culture is clearly defined and more than just a buzzword.

    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    But I am a white male. I have first hand experience. Just fof the top of my head. I never had to feel out of place doing Physics. Or put up with a load of young men making constant vulger sex jokes at me. I don't have to feel physically or verbally threatened from sexual assult and harrassment at work.
    Cool, not sure what your point is here.
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    (Original post by ilem)
    Everything everyone does is directly and solely related to getting laid. It's what everyone is here for.
    Must be a sad life if the only thing you can think with is your d*ck.

    Hopefully you didn’t buy your mum a mothers day gift because you want to get laid, or pop around to your mate’s place to play a new xbox game he got because you’re thirsty for some bum fun.
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    I watch his videos and I definitely think he is filling a void. I think the topics he talks about encourages people to think more rational about their lives really, I guess for people who were never told or shown how to be a person with the qualities he portrays, he is like a father figure. Him being a professional physiologist of some nature definitely helps, since he has the knowledge and understanding to back the topics he speaks.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Discovering Noam Chomsky was certainly a big rabbit hole to fall down for undergraduate daniel. All that time reading about Spannish anarchists instead of studying physics.:rofl:

    I equally fell down a Christipher Hitchens rabbit hole (Before Chomsky I think). Which given what a lot of his fan base is like... you would have tohugh ti could have gone the other way. Although he was an ex Trot so...Religion is the opiate of the people and all that.

    I think it is a character trait though. I always disliked bullies and kids who wouldn't share when I was a young whipper. Capitalism always seemed like a system that was unfair and I was on the receiving end of the boot. The notion of working to amke someone else rich seemed massivly depressing to me as a child and teenager. Socialism is generally a pretty good inoculation against rigth wing identity politics I think. You just generally find yourself allied to other marginalised groups and you have common ground with being opressed in some way. I had no particular reason to even think about Trans people, but you just end up being on the same side. We all want rid of the Tories. That was my experience anyway.

    It never even occured to me to start developing a hatred of women.
    I don't want to generalise his audience but I believe they're mainly American? Maybe that would explain why there's more right-wing tendencies to his followers. British kids and youngsters will always tend to gravitate towards Socialism more than Americans would
 
 
 
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