Brexit is an idiotic mistake - calendar week 9 summary

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Another week, another bouquet of clear, irrefutable evidence that Brexit is a catastrophic mistake - and it might just be the biggest collection of bad news I have done so far!

Brexit is like 'giving up a three-course meal for a packet of crisps', says former top Government trade official
Seeking equal access to EU trade agreements without obeying the rules is 'something for a fairy godmother - it's not going to happen', warned Sir Martin Donnelly
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8230246.html

British households wait for progress on Brexit and wages as wariness continues
The long-running measure of consumer confidence from GfK showed a drop of one point to a negative reading of 10, around the same weak level seen since June of last year.
http://www.cityam.com/281372/british...wages-wariness

Brexit: No deal for UK car industry puts hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk, MPs warn
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8233506.html

UK auto industry's only Brexit option is damage control, lawmakers say
http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...ol-report-says

EU boss Donald Tusk mocks Britain’s ‘so-called red lines’ on Brexit and warns Theresa May there are still ‘different points of view’ blocking a deal
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/570226...lunch-meeting/

Ex-colonies to UK: Forget Brexit ‘Empire 2.0’
https://www.politico.eu/article/comm...for-brexit-uk/

Shoppers may be forced to buy inferior milk from America in post-Brexit trade deal with US
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/shoppers...trade-deal-us/

EU to demand indefinite ECJ oversight after Brexit
https://www.ft.com/content/9a147cfa-...a-4574d7dabfb6

EU demands Britain 'pick up the pace' over Brexit talks amid Irish border row
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/28/brex...order-row.html

94% of SMEs “hugely concerned” government is ignoring them over Brexit
https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog...noring-brexit/

‘Pound set for euro parity’ in case of no Brexit deal
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...deal-b7k7gpjkk

Sterling slips to seven-week low on worries over Brexit transition
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKCN1GD4EO

London office sector shows signs of Brexit stress
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle38125355/

Brexit prompts Credit Suisse to move 250 London jobs
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43199979

Admiral to set up subsidiary in Madrid as EU base post-Brexit
https://www.ft.com/content/0a07df04-...a-43db76e69936

Brexit is a threat to London’s future in European payment systems
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...yment-systems/

Scotland and Wales brace for UK clash on Brexit
https://euobserver.com/uk-referendum/141140

EU could reject UK's Brexit plan for Irish border warns Irish foreign minister
https://www.itv.com/news/2018-03-04/...eign-minister/

Brexit – Spain's Chance to Seize the Rock?
https://sputniknews.com/europe/20180...raltar-chance/

A No-Deal Brexit Risks U.K. Food Crisis, Sainsbury CEO Warns
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...bury-ceo-warns

Britain's High Street had 'a brutal winter' — and another crunch is coming at the end of March
Shops and restaurants are closing across the UK as a Brexit-driven consumer crisis begins to take its toll.
http://www.businessinsider.fr/uk/map...-crisis-2018-3

UK Cyber Attack Threat Could Get Worse Post-Brexit, Experts Warn
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b03b55731d2771

North facing a 'London-centric' Brexit if region's leaders don't act together, Mayor says
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...north-14340906


Opinion:

Theresa May's latest Brexit speech shows all bets are off
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ech-john-crace

Liam Fox’s shiny new trade deals won’t compensate for hard Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-customs-union

May’s carnival of indecision over Brexit has cost us dear
The government’s pitiful confusion over the EU is turning Britain into a global laughing stock
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...dear-g3qjq8bh6

No 10’s customs union claim is another delusional Brexit falsehood
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...t-trade-turkey

Brexit basket case: the British have forgotten how to deal with facts
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...acts-1.3414469
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Wow that’s a lot of links
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once the £350 million a week starts pouring into the NHS all these little wrinkles will be smoothed out
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once the £350 million a week starts pouring into the NHS all these little wrinkles will be smoothed out
Is that going to take effect during the transition period?
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Is that going to take effect during the transition period?
i will just have a look at the bus....

https://e3.365dm.com/16/06/1096x616/...20160626132012

hmmmm maybe it's on the other side :dontknow:
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As always, utter perfection from the German gent! Always find myself coming back to this website for a glimpse at some of the utter humiliation of ignorant xenophobic Brexit voters, It is truly a sight to be hold!
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Most of that is fake news and makes me want to puke. So apparently Theresa May wants to build an empire and have colonies?? And they say it's the brexiteers that lack education..
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Most of that is fake news and makes me want to puke. So apparently Theresa May wants to build an empire and have colonies?? And they say it's the brexiteers that lack education..
Ironic considering that the EU themselves have been pushing for a United States of Europe and have been slowly getting there, step by step, treaty by treaty towards further integration
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Ask yourself something, why is it that Norway and Switzerland have such a greater GDP per capita than us? Why are Norway and Switzerland at 1 and 3 on the HDI index while we are at 16. The self hating amongst us might say it's because of how retched a country we are, and how corrupt and decadent we are. But perhaps there's a more positive vision, perhaps the reason that the two independent countries on the EU's doorstep outperform the EU in every comparable way is that they have embraced free trade.

The EU is a protectionist racket, they have weak and ineffectual trade deals and a huge common external tariff, add to that the double whammy from non tariff barriers such as high regulatory standards and an energy market that shoves energy costs far in excess of market rates and suddenly we start to see the impact of the EU's nanny statism and protectionism, free trade always, always, always makes you richer, and in the short term we may get poorer, in the long term we'll do better as we'll be able to address the fact that in an age of cheap transportation, we still sell more to five million Irish than 1.3 billion Chinese, we'll be outside of the EU's cowering tariff walls, and hopefully free of it's "anti-dumping" as well, and we'll be able to do a lot better as the purchasing power of our currency rises due to cheaper imports.
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Ask yourself something, why is it that Norway and Switzerland have such a greater GDP per capita than us? Why are Norway and Switzerland at 1 and 3 on the HDI index while we are at 16.
No, don't ask yourself that, as it's a total apples-to-pears comparison exposing your utter economic illiteracy.

Also:

Four reasons a post-Brexit UK can’t copy Norway or Switzerland
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...r-switzerland/

Why the Swiss Model Wouldn't Work for the UK
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1096952.html

Why the Swiss model is a poor choice for Britain post-Brexit
http://www.cityam.com/235765/why-the...in-post-brexit

Why the Norway model is a flawed blueprint for Brexit
https://theconversation.com/why-the-...r-brexit-64404

Norway to Britain: Don’t leave, you’ll hate it
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-r...ls-brexiteers/

(Original post by Twistednuke)
The self hating amongst us might say it's because of how retched a country we are, and how corrupt and decadent we are. But perhaps there's a more positive vision, perhaps the reason that the two independent countries on the EU's doorstep outperform the EU in every comparable way is that they have embraced free trade.
Yeah, the self-hating among you lot, but also the rest of the world.

As for the two independent countries - see above.

(Original post by Twistednuke)
The EU is a protectionist racket, they have weak and ineffectual trade deals and a huge common external tariff, add to that the double whammy from non tariff barriers such as high regulatory standards and an energy market that shoves energy costs far in excess of market rates and suddenly we start to see the impact of the EU's nanny statism and protectionism, free trade always, always, always makes you richer, and in the short term we may get poorer, in the long term we'll do better as we'll be able to address the fact that in an age of cheap transportation, we still sell more to five million Irish than 1.3 billion Chinese, we'll be outside of the EU's cowering tariff walls, and hopefully free of it's "anti-dumping" as well, and we'll be able to do a lot better as the purchasing power of our currency rises due to cheaper imports.
Strange that the EU is pretty much booming at the moment (far outperforming Britain, but then that's very easy these days) with its 'weak and ineffectual' trade deals.

It's so sad and funny at the same time how people like you think Britain could negotiate advantageous trade deals, being the arrogant minnows that you are. Trump will have you for breakfast, the Chinese will laugh at you, and your former colonies can't wait to return the favor of economic exploitation (since genocide isn't an option).
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Oh my god. Really? The OP simply collates MSM links, all confirming his bias and all from the same Remainer perspective, and believes every single one of them as gospel? LMAO, seriously?

If we lived in a truly just society children would learn about propaganda, its methods, and how it's implemented from an early age, so they could see through it and learn to think for themselves, so they don't end up like this poor GentleGerman guy.


It's quite pitiful to see such gullibility and lack of intelligence.
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Sheds a tear for the re-moaners.

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Ask yourself something, why is it that Norway and Switzerland have such a greater GDP per capita than us?
Because Norway has sh1t loads of oil and fish and a sovereign wealth fund big enough to buy each citizen a Tesla and Switzerland has made a very good living out of sitting on the fence. You might say they both have a unique selling point.

Britain? We are all and nothing. We have built our wealth primarily on empire and trade. We no longer have our empire and have just shot ourselves in the foot regarding trade. Everyone who is anyone gets this one - except the hardline Brexiteers who still believe we can do better without Europe. But it's ok. I hear Ghana and Jamaica are up for a trade deals post Brexit. We'll just put Germany and France back on the shelf.
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(Original post by Twistednuke)
Ask yourself something, why is it that Norway and Switzerland have such a greater GDP per capita than us? Why are Norway and Switzerland at 1 and 3 on the HDI index while we are at 16. The self hating amongst us might say it's because of how retched a country we are, and how corrupt and decadent we are. But perhaps there's a more positive vision, perhaps the reason that the two independent countries on the EU's doorstep outperform the EU in every comparable way is that they have embraced free trade.

The EU is a protectionist racket, they have weak and ineffectual trade deals and a huge common external tariff, add to that the double whammy from non tariff barriers such as high regulatory standards and an energy market that shoves energy costs far in excess of market rates and suddenly we start to see the impact of the EU's nanny statism and protectionism, free trade always, always, always makes you richer, and in the short term we may get poorer, in the long term we'll do better as we'll be able to address the fact that in an age of cheap transportation, we still sell more to five million Irish than 1.3 billion Chinese, we'll be outside of the EU's cowering tariff walls, and hopefully free of it's "anti-dumping" as well, and we'll be able to do a lot better as the purchasing power of our currency rises due to cheaper imports.
As a firm believer in free trade, I agree with you, but simply claiming Norway and Switzerland are better solely because of it is a little simplisitic. Both are tiny tiny countries, with incredible homogenous populations. Norway has a tonne of oil money and has had enormous military help from the US covering it's costs.
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As always, utter perfection from the German gent! Always find myself coming back to this website for a glimpse at some of the utter humiliation of ignorant xenophobic Brexit voters, It is truly a sight to be hold!
What about brexit voters who want an open doors immigration policy? Currently restricted from doing so due to the xenophobic EU.

In other news Aviva raised their dividend 18% this week.
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Remember we have not left yet, so the worst is yet to come. Retailing is suffering greatly already.
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(Original post by Archon9)
As always, utter perfection from the German gent! Always find myself coming back to this website for a glimpse at some of the utter humiliation of ignorant xenophobic Brexit voters, It is truly a sight to be hold!
Voting to leave the EU doesn’t make somebody xenophobic.
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Remember we have not left yet, so the worst is yet to come. Retailing is suffering greatly already.
Really? ASOS sales up 28% in their January trading statement.

Do you mean high street retailers suffering from rate increases, rent increases and salary rises?
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Oh my god. Really? The OP simply collates MSM links, all confirming his bias and all from the same Remainer perspective, and believes every single one of them as gospel? LMAO, seriously?

If we lived in a truly just society children would learn about propaganda, its methods, and how it's implemented from an early age, so they could see through it and learn to think for themselves, so they don't end up like this poor GentleGerman guy.


It's quite pitiful to see such gullibility and lack of intelligence.
It's a shame that people in this country no longer teach, they just indoctrinate.
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(Original post by shawn_o1)
It's a shame that people in this country no longer teach, they just indoctrinate.
It sure is. Little would benefit society more than teaching people to think for themselves critically, accurately and skilfully, and yet the opposite it happening. The 'long march through the institutions' is still in full effect, and the age at which school children start the indoctrination process continually gets lower.

It's really a bad, bad state of affairs. I do admire all the young people today who have rejected all that nonsense and have recognised it for what it is. It's cause for hope.
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