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    I am currently a serving Aerospace Battle Manager in the RAF. I remember going through the selection process and information available on ABMs were extremely sparse.

    If anyone is currently applying or interested in the ABM role please post your questions and I will do my best to answer the best I can.
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    Can you elaborate on what ABM’s do?
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    (Original post by Fk90709)
    Can you elaborate on what ABM’s do?
    ABMs are battle managers. We are split in to two steams; Weapons Control and Surveillance.

    Surveillance Officers are responsible for producing the Recognized Air Picture (Think Battle of Britain, pushing markers of enemy and friendly forces around a table). They take data from radar feeds, intelligence, and links with other military assets to do a threat assessment on every thing that flies. They are the ones with the greatest level of situational awareness of what is going on. Any potential threats they track and attempt to gather as much information on it as possible before passing it higher or to the Weapon Controllers.

    If Surveillance have spotted a threat then it is the job of the Weapons Controller (new name for Fighter Control Officers) to guide friendly aircraft to exactly where they need to be to accomplish the task they have been set. They provide the tactical picture to the pilots and control them in the battle. They are often mistaken for Air Traffic Controllers. Both share a very similar skill set however ATC deal with everything around an airfield. WCs deal with everything outside of that.

    Together both of them are in an ops room controlling the situation. Whether it is responding to a 9/11 hijacked aircraft scenario or escorting Russian bombers around UK airspace.
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    (Original post by Bunker6685)
    ABMs are battle managers. We are split in to two steams; Weapons Control and Surveillance.

    Surveillance Officers are responsible for producing the Recognized Air Picture (Think Battle of Britain, pushing markers of enemy and friendly forces around a table). They take data radar feeds, intelligence, and links with other military assets to do a threat assessment on every thing that flies. They are the ones with the greatest level of situational awareness of what is going on. Any potential threats they track and attempt to gather as much information on it as possible before passing it higher or to the Weapon Controllers.

    If Surveillance have spotted a threat then it is the job of the Weapons Controller (new name for Fighter Control Officers) to guide friendly aircraft to exactly where they need to be to accomplish the task they have been set. They provide the tactical picture to the pilots and control them in the battle. They are often mistaken for Air Traffic Controllers. Both share a very similar skill set however ATC deal with everything around an airfield. WCs deal with everything outside of that.

    Together both of them are in an ops room controlling the situation. Whether it is responding to a 9/11 hijacked aircraft scenario or escorting Russian bombers around UK airspace.
    You just made that sounds so cool, but is it all this action packed every day? If it is, sounds like the best job for me.

    My question to you, how accurate can battle managers be on spotting a new threat. A 9/11 attack happening, pray to god it wont. At what point can you notice it is an unusual active before it actually happens?
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    (Original post by Fk90709)
    You just made that sounds so cool, but is it all this action packed every day? If it is, sounds like the best job for me.

    My question to you, how accurate can battle managers be on spotting a new threat. A 9/11 attack happening, pray to god it wont. At what point can you notice it is an unusual active before it actually happens?
    Written down the ABM branch sounds awesome, but like any job there can be long periods where nothing exciting is happening.

    ABMs do a lot of training to respond to any potential 9/11 scenario. There are many ways in which we can spot it happening. I recommend attending a Realistic Job Preview (RJP) at RAF Boulmer so you can see the bunker and Control and Reporting Centre (CRC) and how it all comes together.
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    Did my RJP at Boulmer 2 weeks ago. Really enjoyed it. Finished OASC on Thursday. Just waiting for dates but can't wait to get started (not as ABM, but SNCO Weapons Controller)
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    I have got my CBAT coming up next week. Do you know what is the minimum score for ABM?
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    (Original post by Snake0917)
    I have got my CBAT coming up next week. Do you know what is the minimum score for ABM?
    Min cutoff score is 90. But you must achieve the minimum score in each area of aptitude required for ABM also.
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    (Original post by vodapo)
    Min cutoff score is 90. But you must achieve the minimum score in each area of aptitude required for ABM also.
    They must have lowered the scores. It used to be 100.
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    (Original post by Bunker6685)
    They must have lowered the scores. It used to be 100.
    Yes I've heard they're desperate for ABM's at the moment. A lot of people aren't passing the CBAT, or are failing during the SABM tests. So I think they're trying to let more candidates into the branch.
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    (Original post by Bunker6685)
    They must have lowered the scores. It used to be 100.
    (Original post by vodapo)
    Yes I've heard they're desperate for ABM's at the moment. A lot of people aren't passing the CBAT, or are failing during the SABM tests. So I think they're trying to let more candidates into the branch.
    Unfortunately the RAF are undermanned in all aptitude based roles, therefore the entry scores for CBAT have been lowered to increase the number of recruits. However this puts further burden on Phase 2 and units as recruits aren't performing to the same level. Without extra funding from the government to improve the package for personnel there is no other solution!

    It does however mean for individuals on this forum its a good time to apply.

    Though for ABM/ATC the apparent solution is to merge into "Air Operations Control" but I can only see this causing more issues personally.
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    (Original post by Snake0917)
    I have got my CBAT coming up next week. Do you know what is the minimum score for ABM?
    It is, however, irrelevant to know this information, as you get no indication during the test what your score is or is going to be.

    Just do your best. No less.
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    ATC, ABM and Flight Ops will be merged to form one branch named Air Operations. It will have two streams:

    Air Operations (Control) - Will encompass the current ATC branch and the Weapons Control part of ABM. Just think Control Officers.
    It will have three specializations: Airfield, Area Radar, Weapons Control.

    Air Operations (Systems) - Will encompass the current Flight Ops branch and Surveillance part of ABM. Just think Operations Officers.
    It will also have three specializations: Surveillance, Space, Airfield Ops.

    You will go to the AFCO and sign up for one of the streams then will be able to further specialize in the three areas as service need and your individual preference dictates.
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    do you think that the Russians will be able to dominate the battle space in the air if it all kicks off ?

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    Are there any current areas of great change for ABMs besides the amalgamation of ABM and the other trades into Air Operations Support? Just looking for good infomation for my final OASC interview - RJP was back in November so things may have changed since. Thanks!
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    (Original post by anthonysjb)
    Are there any current areas of great change for ABMs besides the amalgamation of ABM and the other trades into Air Operations Support? Just looking for good infomation for my final OASC interview - RJP was back in November so things may have changed since. Thanks!
    https://www.raf.mod.uk/recruitment/r...ations-control


    https://www.raf.mod.uk/recruitment/r...ations-support


    Give these “new” job roles a read.
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    Thanks, so thats basically the amalgamation of ATC and ABM then. First official mention of the new role I've seen, mind.
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    (Original post by anthonysjb)
    Thanks, so thats basically the amalgamation of ATC and ABM then. First official mention of the new role I've seen, mind.
    When it's not about pilots or fast and pointy things, the official releases can be rather lacking in detail and timeliness...
 
 
 
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