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Should women be aloud to fight on the front line !

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If they can pass the SAME fitness test as the men then I have no problem.

The fitness test only tests one's physically ability. There's a lot more to fighting on the front line than this.

I'm not sure if you have read some of the threads on this forum lately, but feminists have been campaigning long and hard for women to get time off work for their periods...because periods can be painful for women. This is a gender that struggles to work full time. Imagine having to rely on such a gender in war. Women also take years off work to have children and to look after them...where's admiral vanessa? She's off on maternity leave. OK, fetch admiral Charlotte. Emmm........well she had her period. So she went home...

Its not just competency issues with women in the army but financial implications too. Their inability to work full time leaves a gap that has to be filled by other people. This requires more training and more money......and of course despite working less they want to be paid equally to their male counterparts so this means even more money being wasted...and despite working less and having less experience they want to be promoted equally to men so this will mean less competent people reaching positions of power and control...

There is a reason why women aren't allowed into the army in most countries around the globe let alone the front line....not just now but throughout history and thats because they are not suited for this role....not physically and not mentally.

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Reply 41

Axiomasher

Original post by Drewski

They're big enough when it happens.

Remember the sailors taken prisoner by Iran? There were over a dozen - but the only one that got any media attention was the sole woman.

There was a helicopter crash in Iraq, a Lynx went down, killing the 4 people on board. One was a female and she was the only one the media named.

Fair enough, but presumably, if there were more women in combat roles there would, eventually, be less shock at the fatalities because they would become more 'routine'. Who knows, maybe drones and robots will soon make this kind of debate obsolete anyway.

Reply 42

Dubbb

Original post by Axiomasher

As long as they are not too loud, sure.

Hahahah

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Reply 43

Drewski

Original post by Axiomasher

Fair enough, but presumably, if there were more women in combat roles

Why do we think that will happen though?

The Army's own research said less than 5% of their current female staff would pass the tests, and nobody's talked about whether women want to join the infantry in the first place.

Reply 44

Axiomasher

Original post by Drewski

I'm not assuming it will. If there was shift towards more equitable tests that might result in greater female interest in being in the infantry. But, yeah, this is all just peeing in the wind.

Reply 45

awkwardshortguy

If they are ugly enough not to distract their comrades while they are in the heat of battle then sure.

Reply 46

umbrella321

Depends what you call Front Line because since WW1 there has not been a lot of front - most soldiers from WW1 onwards were killed by someone who never saw them and most male soldiers in WW1 were not as fit as women today. Women lead more dangerous lives than men in most countries. What I find strange is for example in certain places like France, the men are short and thin - British, American, Nordic women would mostly be taller and stronger, and yet the men are considered stronger because...they are male. Imo women in history have fought in every single battle that men have lost because they and their children are considered the spoils. Hitler ordered machine gun training to women when he realised Germany would surrender in WW2. There are examples if you google it, in WW1 there was a Polish woman who fought at the front as a soldier and there was an English nurse working in the Balkans who was left behind after an attack - she walked back to the Serbian lines and fought with them for the remainder of the war, becoming a major or something. She only died towards the end of the war during hand-to-hand combat - her opponent let off a hand grenade that killed them both.
BTW previous poster, many, many soldiers take paternity leave and some pull a fake sickey or simply quit. The number of men that come out harmed psychologically may point to the fact most men are not made for war either...the army has always been a route to take when one hasn't done well at school, not mentioning the royals or anything like that, at all. Also, today with the 'threat' of terrorism, the number of 'soldiers' being paid to do a bit of patrolling in the shopping centre vs any seeing any action is staggering...this is billions of pounds going to men purely because they are men.