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    Honestly I’m not 100% sure but I think that btecs aren’t exactly equivalent to a levels and it’s probably also down to the university too, universities have all different sorts of entry requirements
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    Mandem can add up numbers, find percentages, work out tax, look up tax bands, file returns, like why cabt I study degree level mathematics. It's where my passion lies I love arithmetic

    (Original post by shannonpdconnor)
    Honestly I’m not 100% sure but I think that btecs aren’t exactly equivalent to a levels and it’s probably also down to the university too, universities have all different sorts of entry requirements
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    (Original post by James_greddall)
    Why can't I get into oxbridge then. I'm predicted DDD in accountancy level 3 at my college. Why cabt I get into somewhere likeimperial then when btecs are equivalent
    At such high level and highly competitive Universities like Oxbridge and Imperial it gets to the point where grades don't matter. No matter what you got in your BTECs or A-levels at that level, everyone has the same or better.
    These Unis focus more in personal qualities, your achievements, skills, experiences. This why the interviews are so rigorous and people with perfect grades get turned away.
    Oxbridge additionally sets extra hard exams to try and separate the best from the better, that's how high it is, and why so many people want to go there.
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    (Original post by Tyss)
    At such high level and highly competitive Universities like Oxbridge and Imperial it gets to the point where grades don't matter. No matter what you got in your BTECs or A-levels at that level, everyone has the same or better.
    These Unis focus more in personal qualities, your achievements, skills, experiences. This why the interviews are so rigorous and people with perfect grades get turned away.
    Oxbridge additionally sets extra hard exams to try and separate the best from the better, that's how high it is, and why so many people want to go there.
    Fine. I wanted to study dentistry/medicine but my college tutor also said it wasn't viable. I really don't understand why. Please explain and if I have other options please could you tell me what they are. Thank you
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    (Original post by James_greddall)
    Mandem can add up numbers, find percentages, work out tax, look up tax bands, file returns, like why cabt I study degree level mathematics. It's where my passion lies I love arithmetic
    I wish degree mathematics was adding and finding percentages, degree mathematics is not like anything you study before, its a monster in its own right. Even entry-level courses in degree maths have you working out matrix diagonalisation, non-euclidean basis for vector spaces, 5 dimensional hyper-planes, complex roots to third-order differential equations, proving that 5 is even. Its not maths anymore...its not maths as we knew it...
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    (Original post by Tyss)
    I wish degree mathematics was adding and finding percentages, degree mathematics is not like anything you study before, its a monster in its own right. Even entry-level courses in degree maths have you working out matrix diagonalisation, non-euclidean basis for vector spaces, 5 dimensional hyper-planes, complex roots to third-order differential equations, proving that 5 is even. Its not maths anymore...its not maths as we knew it...
    sounds really hard but I'm motives and predicted DDD (AAA at A level) so do you think I have a shot at medicine/dentistry
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    (Original post by James_greddall)
    Fine. I wanted to study dentistry/medicine but my college tutor also said it wasn't viable. I really don't understand why. Please explain and if I have other options please could you tell me what they are. Thank you
    Dentistry and Medicine are essentially at the same level as Oxbridge and the like because the competition for Medicine is insanely high and the grade requirement also very high, and very specific. You need to have done Chemistry as a necessity, Biology or Physics recommended and another Mathsy subject, all of these needing a minimum grade of an A* often. I knew people with straight A* in all these subjects, passed all additional exams like BMAT, applied to 5 medicine Unis and most of them only scraping at most one offer. That's how insanely competitive medicine is, dentistry is probably quite similar in requirements but probably not nearly as competitive.
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    (Original post by Tyss)
    Dentistry and Medicine are essentially at the same level as Oxbridge and the like because the competition for Medicine is insanely high and the grade requirement also very high, and very specific. You need to have done Chemistry as a necessity, Biology or Physics recommended and another Mathsy subject, all of these needing a minimum grade of an A* often. I knew people with straight A* in all these subjects, passed all additional exams like BMAT, applied to 5 medicine Unis and most of them only scraping at most one offer. That's how insanely competitive medicine is, dentistry is probably quite similar in requirements but probably not nearly as competitive.
    Thanks you so much. You've given a lot of genuinely helpful advice that no one else has given me. I think I'll just take up the accountancy apprenticeship now.
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    (Original post by James_greddall)
    Thanks you so much. You've given a lot of genuinely helpful advice that no one else has given me. I think I'll just take up the accountancy apprenticeship now.
    It's very hard to give career advice without knowing all the details. If you're interesting in applying your mathematical ability there are a few other options.
    1) Becoming an actuary->A type of accountant more specialised into risk-evaluation and management which can offer a much higher salary with only a slight increase in difficulty.
    2) Going into the financial sector, with the rise of big data and various other data analysis developments there is some demand for more people in this area. Though it would be hard initially finding a business to hire you and willing to train you up to professional level. Might want to a statistics or data analysis course for this one.
    3) Go into computer science: Massive growing industry, high wages, rapidly increasing demand as the few talented IT workers are needed in many more places to facilitate more and more advanced expansions in technology.
    These are just couple of the options available if you're willing to put in the effort.
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    (Original post by James_greddall)
    Also to anyone jn the real world, a levels >> btecs. Btecs are worthless and if you belive their not then you won't be able to handle a levels if that concept is hard enough to grasp
    This is fundamentally wrong.

    People from my Computing BTEC class ended up going to: Manchester, Southampton, Surrey, Bath, Royal Holloway, Kings College London, Cardiff and UCL.

    I did a BTEC Extended Diploma about 4-5 years ago (with no A levels) and graduated from a good university (top 20 at the time) with a BSc in Computer Science and am currently studying for my MSc at a top 10 university, as well as this I haven't struggled to find employment either (BTEC being statistically more employable than A levels - source) currently working as a part-time Software Engineer (I earn ~35k pro-rata for part time) alongside my MSc and have 4 offers for Graduate schemes to start in September, but am also considering a PhD, this all stemming from doing my BTEC in college, hardly seems "worthless", as you put it.

    You also say "Also to anyone jn the real world, a levels >> btecs." this is a crazy statement to make, by "the real world", I'm assuming you mean industry (not academia). Industry prefer BTECs, I actually use skills in my job at the moment that I learnt on my BTEC course in 2013, skills that you would not learn from the equivalent A level Computing course. 2 of my previous employers also were quite impressed/shocked at the skills obtained and the breath of topics the BTEC course covered (one of them stated this at my interview when talking about through BTEC Computing units and subsequently I was offered the job) and again, these are practical skills you don't necessarily learn in the A level equivalent.

    Most of my friends who did A levels who mocked me for taking BTEC and most of them seem to have done *****y degrees, went to rubbish universities or are working in menial jobs like supermarkets, restaurants/fast-food places etc. for not much more than minimum wage, very few seem to be 'successful'.
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    Sixth Forms are the worst. They treat you like kids... thankfully not long left for me.
 
 
 
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