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    (Original post by The PoliticalGuy)
    Is immigration a factor of the strain on our public services?
    Surely it is, common sense would show that more people using a service,
    Absolutely. But what evidence do you have to support your argument that it is immigrants using the service and hence putting a strain on it? Immigrants tend to be young and they tend to come here to work, not clog our hospitals. By contrast, the old require complex and varied health plans that are expensive to provide. There are more elderly that there are immigrants. I would bet you my last penny that the NHS has more of a problem with old folks and budget that isn't keeping up with demand than with immigrants.
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    We have a points based system, introduced under Labour. It just doesn't currently apply to EU citizens, for obvious reasons.
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    ... (snip) ... By contrast, the old require complex and varied health plans that are expensive to provide. There are more elderly that there are immigrants. I would bet you my last penny that the NHS has more of a problem with old folks and budget that isn't keeping up with demand than with immigrants.
    However, many of the elderly have paid into the system for thirty plus years already. Anyone who owns a business, has investment assets, and/or bought anything at all with V.A.T. piled on top of the cost, has probably paid into the system all their lives.

    How much do immigrants have to pay into the system before they get on housing lists, universal credit, child support, council tax rebates, free healthcare for them and their family, free education for their children, many free adult education classes if English is a second language etc?
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    (Original post by 303Pharma)
    However, many of the elderly have paid into the system for thirty plus years already. Anyone who owns a business, has investment assets, and/or bought anything at all with V.A.T. piled on top of the cost, has probably paid into the system all their lives.

    How much do immigrants have to pay into the system before they get on housing lists, universal credit, child support, council tax rebates, free healthcare for them and their family, free education for their children, many free adult education classes if English is a second language etc?
    As an immigrant you have access to very little. Unless you are getting confused with asylum seeker. The trouble, is you are believing all the prejudice.

    https://fullfact.org/immigration/mig...fare-benefits/

    And there has never been a pot of money built up over time. Services and pensions are paid from general taxation.
 
 
 

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