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    No idea..
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    (Original post by Traore)
    No idea..
    Nothing.

    Also, moved to Educational Debate :borat:
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    Russel group universities tend to have better research going on compared to polytechs.
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    (Original post by HotDetermination)
    Russel group universities tend to have better research going on compared to polytechs.
    True, but important to point out this has little to no impact on an undergraduate's prospects.
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    (Original post by Blue_Cow)
    True, but important to point out this has little to no impact on an undergraduate's prospects.
    A undergraduate could potentially be interested in researching at the same uni after they graduate. I can appreciate that few people go into research so I guess it wouldn't make a huge difference or anything.
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    (Original post by HotDetermination)
    Russel group universities tend to have better research going on compared to polytechs.
    Polytechnics stopped existing in 1992.
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    they are like the Premier League in Soccer sport.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    they are like the Premier League in Soccer sport.
    lolwut?
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    (Original post by PQ)
    Polytechnics stopped existing in 1992.
    I thought polytechs was the term used to describe any non Russell Group uni. Is there a term?
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    (Original post by the bear)
    they are like the Premier League in Soccer sport.
    A recent article on THE made the argument that we should treat them as such by relegating the worst performers and boosting the best non-RGs every year

    interesting thought
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    Russell brand owns it...

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    not necessarily a good thing...
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    (Original post by HotDetermination)
    I thought polytechs was the term used to describe any non Russell Group uni. Is there a term?
    Nope you've been misinformed.

    You could split currently existing unis into two groups in a number of ways that would at least make some sort of sense but that isn't one of them.
    also talking about them in the present tense makes you sound like the sort of old duffer who talks about the USSR or Yugoslavia as if they still exist.
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    Nope you've been misinformed.

    You could split currently existing unis into two groups in a number of ways that would at least make some sort of sense but that isn't one of them.
    also talking about them in the present tense makes you sound like the sort of old duffer who talks about the USSR or Yugoslavia as if they still exist.
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    In all honesty Rusell group universities tend to have higher employability prospects than non RG unis. That's Facts. Other than that nothing really.
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    (Original post by sparkledust123)
    In all honesty Rusell group universities tend to have higher employability prospects than non RG unis. That's Facts. Other than that nothing really.
    And better research. And higher admissions standards. And higher starting and early career salaries.

    However, this is a classic cause of cause and effect being mixed up by people.

    As a preliminary point, do note that the RG encompasses a stupidly wide range of universities. So we're not talking about a homogeneous mass.

    More importantly, the RG unis that are considered to be 'leading' in the UK or in the world aren't good because they are in the RG. They're good because they're good, and they set up/joined/were invited to the RG as a consequence of this. Having the 'RG' sticker doesn't suddenly boost your REF GPA by .10, or increase starting salaries by a couple of £k a year.
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    I actually agree. I personally wouldn't go anywhere but to an RG uni, opens up doors for you.
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    (Original post by sparkledust123)
    I actually agree. I personally wouldn't go anywhere but to an RG uni, opens up doors for you.
    Really depends which one and to some extent, which course plus how well you do.
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    (Original post by sparkledust123)
    I actually agree. I personally wouldn't go anywhere but to an RG uni, opens up doors for you.
    Me too, but it isn't the 'RG' moniker that will open up those doors - it's the opportunities offered by that particular university. In some cases, the opportunities and contacts you will acquire by studying a particular course at at a top non-RG like St. Andrew's or Bath may be better than those offered at a lowly RG like QUB.
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    The Russel Group, despite saying they are a research organisation, is really just an effective marketing tool. They have persuaded lots of people they ar e "better" or "more prestigious" than other unis (by including many of the unis with a long history or generally good reputation to join).

    It doesn't have a huge impact on undergraduates- you may even get better teaching or more contact time elsewhere. Some people say going to a Russel Group uni will open more doors in employment, but I'm not sure this is true. Many people have opinions about the Russel Group without actually knowing what unis are in it- so they think of e.g. Durham, Warwick, Bristol, Exeter, Manchester etc, which are all pretty respected. They aren't necessarily thinking of QMUL or Southampton

    Most people couldn't actually list the unis in the Russel Group, and there are plenty of respected unis outside this group.

    For postgrad, if you want to do a PhD be on the cutting edge of your subject, I think it can help, but even then, you might find someone who's research interests you're more closely aligned with elsewhere.
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    RG is just a rebranding of red bricks to bring in more universities and give careers advisors and teachers a nice lazy shortcut.
 
 
 
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