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    B1349 - Foreign Funding of Mosques Bill
    Foreign Funding of Mosques Bill

    A BILL TO prevent foreign governments from funding the building or continued existence of mosques within the United Kingdom

    BE IT ENACTED by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

    1) Definitions
    (a) The tax year refers to the period of time from April 6 to April 5.

    2) Regulation
    (1) All legally registered mosques and masjids within the United Kingdom must submit a formal report of all income, including sources of income from foreign governments, to HM Revenue & Customs once per tax year.
    (2) Upon review of these reports, any legally registered Mosque or Masjid built and maintained within the United Kingdom with the help of money sourced from a foreign government is subject to immediate closure.

    3) Extent, commencement and short title
    (1) This Act shall come into effect immediately after receiving Royal Assent
    (2) This Act can be cited as the Foreign Funding of Mosques Act 2018
    (3) This Act shall extend to the entirety of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

    Notes

    This bill is needed to tackle the issue of mosques being funded by foreign entities, in many cases, to promote and incite extremist Islamism in the UK, such as Jihad and Wahhabism.



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    Why only mosques?

    Who submitted the bill?
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    I would like to see it extended to all religious institutions to be honest.

    Abstain for the moment.
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    Hmm I do wonder who submitted this bill, I’m abstaining unless it’s extended to all religious institutions too
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    Since I'm against organised religion, I support this principle whole-heartedly, and am wondering why it stops at Mosques.
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    Abstaining unless it’s extended. Also, who wrote this up?
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    Whose is this?

    I agree that it needs to be extended to all places of religious worship.
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    Who wrote this? And, why only Mosques?
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    Who wrote it, also this is absurd, why should foreign governments be banned from funding religious establishments? If extended to all establishments would think mean Catholic churches that get direct funding from the Vatican should be closed? Funding from foreign governments does not automatically mean there is something wrong.
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    I am weary about 2:,2 because the language could be exploited by the mosques it states:

    registered Mosque or Masjid built and maintained within the United Kingdom with the help of money sourced from a foreign government
    The mosque could argue that the money obtained would not be used to maintain or build the mosque but programs.

    Abstain unless this is changed.
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    There should be some sort of surveillance of places where it is suspected extremism is being taught/encouraged etc. And if necessary this should include certain mosques which fall in this category However, why the proponents of this bill want to ban mosques built with foreign money altogether is beyond me.
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    After listening to comments from members of this House, I may amend the bill to include all places of worship for the second reading.
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    (Original post by Unown Uzer)
    After listening to comments from members of this House, I may amend the bill to include all places of worship for the second reading.
    Good to know it’s a Nat Con bill (or a Private member bill) obviously if you amend it I assume the name of the bill will change
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Good to know it’s a Nat Con bill (or a Private member bill) obviously if you amend it I assume the name of the bill will change
    Yes, it will
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    , why should foreign governments be banned from funding religious establishments?
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    why the proponents of this bill want to ban mosques built with foreign money altogether is beyond me.
    The answer is simple. Foreign governments foment division within the UK and a degree of loyalty to themselves by funding the building of religious establishments and supplying preachers that conform to particular schools of thought. This is very prevalent (and most dangerous) with Deobandi and Salafi mosques (both of which should be banned outright), the latter funded largely by Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are always going around offering to build mosques for refugees rather than offering to help the refugees themselves. This is a long term project to build loyalty within Europe to the Saudis and their cohorts.

    However, all funding of religious establishments from foreign sources should be banned, not just mosques and not just foreign governments. Otherwise it would be trivial for them to sidestep the restrictions.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    The answer is simple. Foreign governments foment division within the UK and a degree of loyalty to themselves by funding the building of religious establishments and supplying preachers that conform to particular schools of thought. This is very prevalent (and most dangerous) with Deobandi and Salafi mosques (both of which should be banned outright), the latter funded largely by Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are always going around offering to build mosques for refugees rather than offering to help the refugees themselves. This is a long term project to build loyalty within Europe to the Saudis and their cohorts.

    However, all funding of religious establishments from foreign sources should be banned, not just mosques and not just foreign governments. Otherwise it would be trivial for them to sidestep the restrictions.
    And the things you described would be grounds to mandate closure, the simple act of receiving money should not be, the argument can also be applied to pretty much anything meaning the only solution is to become a totally closed economy.
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    (Original post by JMR2018)
    There should be some sort of surveillance of places where it is suspected extremism is being taught/encouraged etc. And if necessary this should include certain mosques which fall in this category However, why the proponents of this bill want to ban mosques built with foreign money altogether is beyond me.
    Because if they had their way it would be ALL mosques closed tomorrow
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Hmm I do wonder who submitted this bill, I’m abstaining unless it’s extended to all religious institutions too
    That seems to be against the most basic principle of libertarianism
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    B1349 - Foreign Funding of Mosques Bill

    Foreign Funding of Mosques Bill

    A BILL TO prevent foreign governments from funding the building or continued existence of mosques within the United Kingdom


    BE IT ENACTED by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

    1) Definitions
    (a) The tax year refers to the period of time from April 6 to April 5.

    2) Regulation
    (1) All legally registered mosques and masjids within the United Kingdom must submit a formal report of all income, including sources of income from foreign governments, to HM Revenue & Customs once per tax year.
    (2) Upon review of these reports, any legally registered Mosque or Masjid built and maintained within the United Kingdom with the help of money sourced from a foreign government is subject to immediate closure.

    3) Extent, commencement and short title
    (1) This Act shall come into effect immediately after receiving Royal Assent
    (2) This Act can be cited as the Foreign Funding of Mosques Act 2018
    (3) This Act shall extend to the entirety of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

    Notes

    This bill is needed to tackle the issue of mosques being funded by foreign entities, in many cases, to promote and incite extremist Islamism in the UK, such as Jihad and Wahhabism.



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    Dayne this is a NatCons bill please amend
 
 
 
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