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B1349 - Foreign Funding of Mosques Bill watch

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    (Original post by Joep95)
    That seems to be against the most basic principle of libertarianism
    I was waiting for that 🙃
    I just don’t believe that Foreign governments should be funding religious establishment. Call me a #FakeLiber, I just hold the belief that if there’s to be some regulation... having foreign government influence within religious establishment isn’t something that slides with me. Preferably this would be charity.
    Feel free to convince me otherwise
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    Dayne this is a NatCons bill please amend
    Oops, that's the bots fault, and thus mind for coding it wrong. I'll get it amended.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    If extended to all establishments would think mean Catholic churches that get direct funding from the Vatican should be closed?
    That would depend on whether the Vatican is being recognised as a country or not, for the purposes of this act.
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    That would depend on whether the Vatican is being recognised as a country or not, for the purposes of this act.
    You do know why the CofE was founded, don't you (apart from the divorce, of course)? To ensure that Englishmen owed no allegiance outside the country. The Vatican should be stopped from funding religious establishments in the UK, just as much as Saudi Arabia should.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And the things you described would be grounds to mandate closure, the simple act of receiving money should not be, the argument can also be applied to pretty much anything meaning the only solution is to become a totally closed economy.
    The naivety is strong in this one.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    You do know why the CofE was founded, don't you (apart from the divorce, of course)? To ensure that Englishmen owed no allegiance outside the country. The Vatican should be stopped from funding religious establishments in the UK, just as much as Saudi Arabia should.
    You imply that I support the CofE. As I said above, I'm against organised religion. I was answering Jammy's question only.
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    . As I said above, I'm against organised religion.
    So am I. I was merely pointing out the naivety of allowing foreign powers to have strong influence on British citizens.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    So am I. I was merely pointing out the naivety of allowing foreign powers to have strong influence on British citizens.
    You don't need to point that out to me. I'm in support of the bill.
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    (Original post by Saunders16)
    He's ifnhss to go we have s manor problem with the jussies
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    Nay. I don't see what benefit this brings.
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    Nay, this arguably attacks freedom of religion, a key principle of our free western civilisation.
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    This is a good way of cutting the roots away from the tree that is the problem of extremism.


    Separately, I ask why can't we tax the funding mosques and indeed ALL places of worship receive from foreign funding? At most, we could exempt just the C of E considering we are technically not a secular nation, even if I don't personally believe in any kind of God.
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    That would depend on whether the Vatican is being recognised as a country or not, for the purposes of this act.
    I was working on a hypothetical basis, and given there is no exception made for the Vatican yes it is.

    (Original post by Good bloke)
    The naivety is strong in this one.
    Not at all, one does not need to be religious to believe in freedom of religion, one does not even have to see the religious as rational and your line of argument can easily be extended to pretty much the whole economy. Foreign businesses over here are going to be trying to fiddle, foreign ownership of UK businesses trivially bust be banned so that brings us to trade, well trade is a way to get around the rules so that needs ending too and we end up with a closed economy (I guess socialists should be happy given how dependent it is on closed economies)
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    To those in favour: do you believe in freedom of religion?
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    I was waiting for that 🙃
    I just don’t believe that Foreign governments should be funding religious establishment. Call me a #FakeLiber, I just hold the belief that if there’s to be some regulation... having foreign government influence within religious establishment isn’t something that slides with me. Preferably this would be charity.
    Feel free to convince me otherwise
    If your problem is with influence then why are you supporting the automatic closure, contrary to principles of freedom of religion, just because there is money from foreign governments rather than requiring there to be that influence on those who practice their faith there?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    To those in favour: do you believe in freedom of religion?
    Completely. I don't believe in organised religion though.
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    Completely. I don't believe in organised religion though.
    So you support people's right to worship, but at the same time support speculative closure of their places of worship?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So you support people's right to worship, but at the same time support speculative closure of their places of worship?
    As far as I'm concerned people can worship anywhere they like. They don't need a specific place in which to do so.
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    As far as I'm concerned people can worship anywhere they like. They don't need a specific place in which to do so.
    Try telling that to those with belief structures that say they do.
 
 
 
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