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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I'm not saying it makes a large difference (or any difference at all) but that stuff has evolved to be there for some reason.

    Also the act of removing it can cause things like rashes and ingrown hairs, leaving it a alone and just cleaning it is probs the best for your pubic hair.Pubic hair can help stop infections from developing as well. What is clear is that it certainly isn't "drity" to have body hair...

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...b-stop-shaving
    Sounds like a very weak argument, as far as I know there isn't any credible evidence to suggest shaving or even waxing is dangerous for your health. Certain people may have allergic reactions of course but this is an individual thing, some people are allergic to sunlight for example...

    But shaving and waxing in general is perfectly safe and healthy for the majority of the population.
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    (Original post by Y11_Maths)
    Doesn’t look attractive
    Assuming you are a hetero male, would you refrain from dating a woman until or unless you knew they shaved their pits? If you took a chance and dated without knowing and found you really liked them would the subsequent discover of their preference not to shave armpits cause you to leave them?
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    (Original post by Ninja Squirrel)
    Sounds like a very weak argument, as far as I know there isn't any credible evidence to suggest shaving or even waxing is dangerous for your health. Certain people may have allergic reactions of course but this is an individual thing, some people are allergic to sunlight for example...

    But shaving and waxing in general is perfectly safe and healthy for the majority of the population.
    I didn't say it was going to kill you. :rolleyes:

    Main point is that it is not dirty to have pubic hair. Which it isn't.
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    Don't know but it's been that way since Roman times.
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    I don't get it either, my girlfriend never shaves her armpits. I find it kinda cute
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I'm not saying it makes a large difference (or any difference at all) but that stuff has evolved to be there for some reason.

    Also the act of removing it can cause things like rashes and ingrown hairs, leaving it a alone and just cleaning it is probs the best for your pubic hair.Pubic hair can help stop infections from developing as well. What is clear is that it certainly isn't "drity" to have body hair...

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...b-stop-shaving
    Armpit hair evolved to be there so bacteria could breed and produce BO, in out more animalistic past that BO would show the quality of our diet and other genetic related markers due to the sweat constituents resulting in different products from the bacteria (as well as the sweat itself has it's own odor and pheromone content I imagine)

    Either way I'm sure it's understandable why all modern humans might choose to remove it, does it look weird if a man doesn't have armpit hair?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I didn't say it was going to kill you. :rolleyes:

    Main point is that it is not dirty to have pubic hair. Which it isn't.
    Nobody here said it was dirty 🤔
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    (Original post by Andymh)
    Don't know but it's been that way since Roman times.
    There's evidence that some elite Roman women practiced the removal of armpit hair but I'm not aware of evidence of chronological continuity let alone expansion of that through the post-Roman and medieval periods of Europe. Plus, Roman women weren't the only kind in the world.
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    (Original post by Andymh)
    Armpit hair evolved to be there so bacteria could breed and produce BO, in out more animalistic past that BO would show the quality of our diet and other genetic related...
    I don't know that this theory is universally accepted though.
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    There's evidence that some elite Roman women practiced the removal of armpit hair but I'm not aware of evidence of chronological continuity let alone expansion of that through the post-Roman and medieval periods of Europe. Plus, Roman women weren't the only kind in the world.
    I am Western - I can only comment on the Western world, I guess what I'm saying is that even if the practice did not continue uninterrupted there's a convergent evolution like quality to it. Also Roman sources talked of common folk very rarely so although your right we only know about the elite that's usually all we ever know about. As for latter in Europe it turns out Queen Elizabeth did it - https://www.elle.com/beauty/makeup-s...-hair-removal/

    Although if I remember correctly I think in the Islamic sunnah Muslims are told to shave pubic hair but would nee dot check that, there's some multiculturalism for you

    I was right - https://islamqa.info/en/202827
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    I don't know that this theory is universally accepted though.
    Well neither is the theory of evolution or the gender wage gap but it's a fair presumption, when I have armpit hair I get worse BO... (I posted an answer to the other one but it's under review)
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    (Original post by Andymh)
    Well neither is the theory of evolution or the gender wage gap but it's a fair presumption, when I have armpit hair I get worse BO... (I posted an answer to the other one but it's under review)
    The remnant of hair could just be its function in wicking sweat away from the sweat glands that are in the armpits. Plenty of theories can be offered as a fair presumption.
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    The remnant of hair could just be its function in wicking sweat away from the sweat glands that are in the armpits. Plenty of theories can be offered as a fair presumption.
    Then why aren't we born with it?

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/173478.php

    Go down to causes, there are even glands in this area whose function is to produce scent, that couple with armpit hair only growing with the onset of puberty really shows a causal link too me, although this a bit of a red herring in regards to OP's original question/point. (Scent-sation inclusion of red herring there)
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    (Original post by Ninja Squirrel)
    Where have you read this? I can't see how having armpit or facial hair actually increases ones health. There may be some small benefits to do with sweat or keeping warm but I highly doubt it has any impact on your health.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=46LU6AxB1go
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    Basically just confirms what I was saying, shaving isn't unhealthy but it can have some side affects depending on the individual.

    There is a huge difference between something which is unhealthy and something which may have a side affect if you do it. Getting a rash after shaving just means your skin is sensitive... Getting a sexually transmitted infection after shaving / waxing just means you used a contaminated razor or rubbed your private areas up against someone else's and get the infection... etc etc.

    I think the arguments against shaving are extremely weak at best.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I have no evidense or anything, just speculating.

    Capatilaism has really tore **** up when it comes to human social practises. Just have easy access to showers and stuff means we can actually maintain this stuff quite easily if we want to.

    You still have the question of why did it happen in porn, but in porn women are basically hairless, then with the profilation fo easily accesable porn, that is going to have massive effects on what people's idea of body image and attractiveness is. I would be more suprised if women didn't shave thier pubic hair. Or though what is odd is that it is often the same for men in porn, yet there isn't really the same thing with men. Sexism probably comes into play here with unequal standards of expectation, or something.
    Yes capitalism that helped bring you such things as affordable washing and incredibly cheap soaps and cleaning fluid, funny how you put the blame on capitalism for everything, many people in the former soviet union did not even have running water whilst the capitalist world was mostly doing better in terms of water and cleanliness
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    Armpit hair on women is unpleasant and strongly implies they are feminists.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    Yes capitalism that helped bring you such things as affordable washing and incredibly cheap soaps and cleaning fluid, funny how you put the blame on capitalism for everything
    Do you deny the development of capitalism has coincided with massive social change?
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    Please see my now approved post on how removal of public hair was cross cultural in the middle ages - capitalism isn't to blame for all things!
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    Sexual attractiveness in the female body form has been shown to vary though, historically and by geography. Otherwise, obvious obesity is likely to be generally unattractive because it suggest poor health by association, not so with armpit hair.
    Well, it may not suggest poor health, but it does suggest poor hygiene (for men and women). I do agree that beauty standards for women are arbitrary though
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