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    Hey all!

    I have been given offers to study law at these universities and I am struggling with making one of them my firm . If anyone has studied there or is currently studying there/ thinking of going there...please get back to me.

    Before anyone comes and says that I should take a year out and get better grades, I am not going to do that. Yes, the universities aren't fantastic but these are the ones I have chosen.

    Many thanks.
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    Before anyone comes and says that I should take a year out and get better grades, I am not going to do that. Yes, the universities aren't fantastic but these are the ones I have chosen.
    You seem to be begging the question. Why aren't you open to taking a gap year and re-applying?
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    You seem to be begging the question. Why aren't you open to taking a gap year and re-applying?
    Due to financial reasons...I cannot afford to spend a year of my life not being in education and spending 2K on retaking exams. Also if I don't go this year I probably will never attend university.
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    Due to financial reasons...I cannot afford to spend a year of my life not being in education and spending 2K on retaking exams. Also if I don't go this year I probably will never attend university.
    What are your grades, if you don't mind me asking?
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    What are your grades, if you don't mind me asking?
    I don't mind at all, don't worry.

    I'm still doing my exams at the moment (A Levels) but I am predicted:

    B- English Lit
    B- Psychology
    D/E-Biology
    B- Extended Project

    so they obviously aren't great but that's because of a personal matter...
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    Due to financial reasons...I cannot afford to spend a year of my life not being in education and spending 2K on retaking exams. Also if I don't go this year I probably will never attend university.
    You could work for a month and a half over the summer at minimum wage and make the £2,000 you need for the resits.

    The financial issue here is more complex than you think it is. It may well be worth taking a year out (or looking into an access course if any are left open) in order to leverage yourself into getting into a significantly better university. Chances are that that university will, in turn, through its name/opportunities/mentality/employer connections, give you access to jobs that you wouldn't have thought were accessible before. It may result in you e.g. jumping from a paralegal job, or some low-end High Street practice, to the regional offices of a national law firm. Should this happen, the cost of the year out may be covered through a better career/higher earnings down the line. The year out is therefore more of an investment than a deadweight loss.

    The better university may also be in a cheaper part of a country, so you'll be saving money there. Living near UWE and Greenwich will prove expensive.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    You could work for a month and a half over the summer at minimum wage and make the £2,000 you need for the resits.

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    The better university may also be in a cheaper part of a country, so you'll be saving money there. Living near UWE and Greenwich will prove expensive.
    Scholarships alone, at a better (thereby richer) university, could far eclipse the £2000.

    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    I don't mind at all, don't worry.

    I'm still doing my exams at the moment (A Levels) but I am predicted:

    B- English Lit
    B- Psychology
    D/E-Biology
    B- Extended Project

    so they obviously aren't great but that's because of a personal matter...
    They're not great, but (bar the D) they are really not UWE level. There's a middle ground between Warwick and UWE, likes of RHUL or Liverpool. If you could exceed your predictions, there might be no need to lay down £2000 or lose a year of your life.

    Now this isn't the question you asked us. Simply they are both about the same; Greenwich is in London (which is fun) and UWE is in Bristol (which is also fun, and very much a mini-London experience).
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    You could work for a month and a half over the summer at minimum wage and make the £2,000 you need for the resits.

    The financial issue here is more complex than you think it is. It may well be worth taking a year out (or looking into an access course if any are left open) in order to leverage yourself into getting into a significantly better university. Chances are that that university will, in turn, through its name/opportunities/mentality/employer connections, give you access to jobs that you wouldn't have thought were accessible before. It may result in you e.g. jumping from a paralegal job, or some low-end High Street practice, to the regional offices of a national law firm. Should this happen, the cost of the year out may be covered through a better career/higher earnings down the line. The year out is therefore more of an investment than a deadweight loss.

    The better university may also be in a cheaper part of a country, so you'll be saving money there. Living near UWE and Greenwich will prove expensive.
    I can see your point and I have thought about doing so in the past it's just that at the moment it seems impossible due to many reasons which is why I asked about your opinion on those two universities (strictly). I have had many people telling me the same things but I have also had people being able to secure places at national firms by going to much worse universities than the ones specified above.

    Considering this, which would you recommend?
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    Scholarships alone, at a better (thereby richer) university, could far eclipse the £2000.



    They're not great, but (bar the D) they are really not UWE level. There's a middle ground between Warwick and UWE, likes of RHUL or Liverpool. If you could exceed your predictions, there might be no need to lay down £2000 or lose a year of your life.

    Now this isn't the question you asked us. Simply they are both about the same; Greenwich is in London (which is fun) and UWE is in Bristol (which is also fun, and very much a mini-London experience).
    That is true. As for the universities, they are but aren't the same. What's holding me back is the fact that UWE is somewhere in the 60's and Greenwich is somewhere in the 80's. Compared to Greenwich UWE has been higher up in the tables in the past where as Greenwich has maintained the same position... Although Greenwich is worse I have had people telling me that I should go to Greenwich just because it's in London and that would give me better access to firms and etc...

    What do you think?
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    That is true. As for the universities, they are but aren't the same. What's holding me back is the fact that UWE is somewhere in the 60's and Greenwich is somewhere in the 80's. Compared to Greenwich UWE has been higher up in the tables in the past where as Greenwich has maintained the same position... Although Greenwich is worse I have had people telling me that I should go to Greenwich just because it's in London and that would give me better access to firms and etc...

    What do you think?
    If you check out CUG Law rankings, UWE is 60th and Greenwich is 64th. That's no difference at all.

    NB: rankings are not what you should base your decision on. They don't matter and once you go over 50, they matter even less.
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    If you check out CUG Law rankings, UWE is 60th and Greenwich is 64th. That's no difference at all.

    NB: rankings are not what you should base your decision on. They don't matter and once you go over 50, they matter even less.
    Yeah but considering UWE is doing well overall (not just Law wise) would you recommend going there instead of going to London as I’d be able to get more experience during my uni years ?
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    Yeah but considering UWE is doing well overall (not just Law wise) would you recommend going there instead of going to London as I’d be able to get more experience during my uni years ?
    Its doing better than Greenwich (but not well) in biology, English or politics does not tell you anything about your experience of its law course.
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    Its doing better than Greenwich (but not well) in biology, English or politics does not tell you anything about your experience of its law course.
    Yeah, exactly. It’s also ranked as 60 something generally where as Greenwich is in the 89-90’s. It’s safe to say I’m confused.
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    Yeah, exactly. It’s also ranked as 60 something generally where as Greenwich is in the 89-90’s. It’s safe to say I’m confused.
    I always give the same advice re Bristol. It is a lovely city which offers a mini-London experience. For me, you get the vibrancy of a city you expect while also having a modicum of community feel. Very big fan of Bristol. London for uni, well, it's easy to feel anonymous in an anonymous city. You might like that escape, but it is something I deplore. Though, how UWE students pronounce "UWE", as ew-ee, is equally a disgrace to humanity.

    Re rankings, the rankings are similar. Forget about this overall stuff.
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    I always give the same advice re Bristol. It is a lovely city which offers a mini-London experience. For me, you get the vibrancy of a city you expect while also having a modicum of community feel. Very big fan of Bristol. London for uni, well, it's easy to feel anonymous in an anonymous city. You might like that escape, but it is something I deplore. Though, how UWE students pronounce "UWE", as ew-ee, is equally a disgrace to humanity.

    Re rankings, the rankings are similar. Forget about this overall stuff.

    Forget about the overall stuff and take into consideration what instead ?
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    (Original post by BiancaMD)
    Forget about the overall stuff and take into consideration what instead ?
    Whatever else you find relevant.
 
 
 

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