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    So the Holy Quran to you is an 'history book', and your point is?

    Don't people read Albert Einsteins books, Coz I think its a historic book too, No?
    I think you are having trouble with you reading comprehension so I will help you out. He/she didn't say "History book" but he did say "historic book". He/she is actually emphasising the outdated nature of the text and you've posted a stupid response based on a misquotation because you cannot read.
    No wonder you have to anonymise yourself.
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    Probably on the basis that they didn't show the tension between them. That's not a good relationship.
    I do love your presumptuousness about interpersonal relationships that you only know the very basic details of. Definitely doesn't come across as patronising in the slightest.
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    I do love your presumptuousness about interpersonal relationships that you only know the very basic details of. Definitely doesn't come across as patronising in the slightest.
    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    I do love your presumptuousness about interpersonal relationships that you only know the very basic details of. Definitely doesn't come across as patronising in the slightest.
    I have not presumed anything. Read what I said specifically.
    Instead of posting a useless response, try arguing against the point I have put forward.
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    (Original post by CanIBeBae?)
    So, you are trying to say that me, a single muslim, did all of that bs?
    Nice, nice you keep thinking that

    Did the crusades happen when the catholics fought against the innocent middle easterns in their home land? I think you might be a bit oblivious to the past as well mate. Yuno, they were just mothers and children going out to have a meal out somewhere when white people attacked. If i have to carry that burden of all the terorist attacks I hope you carry the burden of white people, 20 million people that Joseph Stalin killed of his own race, about 6 million jews that Hitler murdered, not to mention the other deaths during that war. What's up with all of that? All because of you white people and your nationalistic views
    What on Earth do white people have to do with anything? The person you were replying to didn’t even mention race, and you decided to bring up white people without realising apparently, that white people can be Muslims!
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    So the Holy Quran to you is an 'history book', and your point is?

    Don't people read Albert Einsteins books, Coz I think its a historic book too, No?
    only Einstein’s book is backed up with science unlike the Qu’ran
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    What on Earth do white people have to do with anything? The person you were replying to didn’t even mention race, and you decided to bring up white people without realising apparently, that white people can be Muslims!
    Apologies for my ignorance, I meant the west. However the west contains muslims as well so I was unsure as to what to call them
    Therefore I simply called them the 'white people'
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    I am a Muslim, I believe homosexuality is wrong in Islam however I personally have nothing against homosexuals. In fact, some of my favourite people are homosexuals. I do not believe the Qur'an is outdated, but I feel as a Muslim in the western society we are currently living in, its only natural to accept homosexuals. I mean, I accept them as people, despite not agreeing with the sexual act itself. The Prophet (PBUH) taught us to treat and accept people as people, despite their race, religion or sexuality (etc.), as they are still humans, so I won't discriminate against any homosexuals.

    Also, if we do know any homosexual Muslims, we have no right to call them disbelievers (kafirs). That is totally incorrect.
    There's a hadith that states: “If one accuses another of being a Kafir and the accused is not one then the word will return to the accuser,” and those are my opinions
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    I am a Muslim and although I consider myself to be hereosexual, I absolutely enjoy watching lesbian porn so there could be the possibility that I would enjoy sexual intercation with other females. I have never tried this out though so who knows?
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    (Original post by xHSultanax)
    I am a Muslim, I believe homosexuality is wrong in Islam however I personally have nothing against homosexuals. In fact, some of my favourite people are homosexuals. I do not believe the Qur'an is outdated, but I feel as a Muslim in the western society we are currently living in, its only natural to accept homosexuals. I mean, I accept them as people, despite not agreeing with the sexual act itself. The Prophet (PBUH) taught us to treat and accept people as people, despite their race, religion or sexuality (etc.), as they are still humans, so I won't discriminate against any homosexuals.

    Also, if we do know any homosexual Muslims, we have no right to call them disbelievers (kafirs). That is totally incorrect.
    There's a hadith that states: “If one accuses another of being a Kafir and the accused is not one then the word will return to the accuser,” and those are my opinions
    I am also a muslim... i'm just wondering how you think that the quran is not outdated?
    It's largely anti-feminist and sharia (when followed properly) is inhumane when taking into consideration western moral values
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    (Original post by CanIBeBae?)
    I am also a muslim... i'm just wondering how you think that the quran is not outdated?
    It's largely anti-feminist and sharia (when followed properly) is inhumane when taking into consideration western moral values
    Its not anti-femenist really. In some cases women are given more rights. And personally, I am not a literalist. I don't take everything literally, I believe more the connotations of what is written in the Qur'an. For example the Qur'an states the world was made in 6 days, I believe the world was made in God's equivalent of 6 days, not ours. It depends on your own beliefs really.
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    (Original post by xHSultanax)
    Its not anti-femenist really. In some cases women are given more rights. And personally, I am not a literalist. I don't take everything literally, I believe more the connotations of what is written in the Qur'an. For example the Qur'an states the world was made in 6 days, I believe the world was made in God's equivalent of 6 days, not ours. It depends on your own beliefs really.
    But in the quran there are verses that state that in a court case/ law case, it is required to have 2 female witnesses or 1 male witness. That is unfair and blatantly anti-feminist.

    There are also hadiths that are approved by sunni scholars as well as shia scholars which state that the male should be the one to open the door of the house in case a guest arrives.

    But Idk, I mean you could take them out of context in your own way by saying that there are different connotations

    The problem with you taking it as connotations is that you could easily be deluding yourself into making sense of verses in different ways which could result in you unconsciously performing bidah (when you change the principles of the religon) also since it is a holy text, you are actually meant to take most of the parts literal, unless you are willing to take the connotations of every single part of the text, which could result in you taking the text out of context
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    (Original post by CanIBeBae?)
    But in the quran there are verses that state that in a court case/ law case, it is required to have 2 female witnesses or 1 male witness. That is unfair and blatantly anti-feminist.

    There are also hadiths that are approved by sunni scholars as well as shia scholars which state that the male should be the one to open the door of the house in case a guest arrives.

    But Idk, I mean you could take them out of context in your own way by saying that there are different connotations

    The problem with you taking it as connotations is that you could easily be deluding yourself into making sense of verses in different ways which could result in you unconsciously performing bidah (when you change the principles of the religon) also since it is a holy text, you are actually meant to take most of the parts literal, unless you are willing to take the connotations of every single part of the text, which could result in you taking the text out of context

    I actually rate you for that last point.
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    Islam is obviously against homosexuality.

    I am a Muslim and I don't hate gay humans. Its none of my business but they deserve rights just like every other human in a country.
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    (Original post by xHSultanax)
    Its not anti-femenist really. In some cases women are given more rights. And personally, I am not a literalist. I don't take everything literally, I believe more the connotations of what is written in the Qur'an. For example the Qur'an states the world was made in 6 days, I believe the world was made in God's equivalent of 6 days, not ours. It depends on your own beliefs really.
    In what way are they given more rights?
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    I actually rate you for that last point.
    I rate my marge for the food she gave me today
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    I encourage those who in some way or another identify themselves as part of the LGBTQ+ to stand up proudly -I believe that homosexuality is part of life as heterosexuality is and so unless someone causes pain what's it to to do with you. I myself am not homosexual but you can be a Muslim and homosexual your relationship is with God not other people so don't think about them. Many of my friends are LGBTQ+ and I consider them to be the best people I know ---and I'm Muslim🙂
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    (Original post by CanIBeBae?)
    I rate my marge for the food she gave me today
    wth hell is a marge?
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    wth hell is a marge?
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    Means mother, or mum
 
 
 
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