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Student sues Anglia Ruskin over "Mickey Mouse" degree watch

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    Pok Wong, who graduated from Anglia Ruskin in 2013, in International Business Strategy, is demanding £60K return of fees and living costs in the London County Court.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...-a8250441.html

    Wong claims that the degree “does not play a role to help secure a rewarding job with prospects” and that the prospectus had promised the course would leave graduates “well equipped” for jobs in the business world, following two years of “high quality teaching” - claims she regards as false.

    She hopes the case will create a precedent for other students.

    Anglia Ruskin currently ranks 72nd in the Guardian league table of UK universities and 38th for all business courses.
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    Sigh. Hope she doesn’t winner, it’ll set a bad precedent.
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    (Original post by Andrew97)
    Sigh. Hope she doesn’t winner, it’ll set a bad precedent.
    I imagine it will be very difficult for her to win it (not sure though, I'm not a lawyer - I expect nulli tertius will be able to assist us), but I would personally like to see a case like this succeed, as I don't believe that many university course offerings are either worth the money or correctly described. I also think universities are charging far too much in many cases and that far too much of that money is being spent on overpaid top managers and their expenses.
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    I don't get her issue. Surely, you as a student, should do your research before applying? And how is it the university's problem if your degree doesn't get you anywhere?
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    Well, maybe, but at least she can tell people she went to university 'in Cambridge'.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    I don't get her issue. Surely, you as a student, should do your research before applying? And how is it the university's problem if your degree doesn't get you anywhere?
    As always, completely agree with you (PRSOM).
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    What a ridiculous lawsuit. If you make a bad purchase decision, that's your fault. Unless the university's course was flawed or mis-sold (e.g. they advertised it as accredited in some way and it turned out not to be), I don't see why she deserves anything. A degree is not a free pass to a good job.

    Also, how can someone sue for the full value of the fees? If they aren't earning much, they won't be paying much...
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    It's her own fault for being a gullible meff.
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    One of the reasons this won't hold up is it also goes the other way. In other words, something like an English degree isn't advertised as a way into business - which she claims this degree was - but you can absolutely get on a banking grad scheme with an English degree. The qualification only being a way in if accompanied with a strong application more generally is built into the system. The court will almost certainly rule that advertising as 'a way into business' is not misleading, since it can be used in that way more easily than other Ruskin degrees, which it can.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    I don't get her issue. Surely, you as a student, should do your research before applying? And how is it the university's problem if your degree doesn't get you anywhere?
    If you're given assurances about the quality of teaching and how well-respected the course is by employers, how much research would rebut that claim? Naturally, you defer to what the provider says about their course. It is only people hardened by experience of HE ********ting who know not to trust a word HE managers have to say; should the ordinary applicant, perhaps from another continent, be aware?
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Pok Wong, who graduated from Anglia Ruskin in 2013, in International Business Strategy, is demanding £60K return of fees and living costs in the London County Court.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...-a8250441.html

    Wong claims that the degree “does not play a role to help secure a rewarding job with prospects” and that the prospectus had promised the course would leave graduates “well equipped” for jobs in the business world, following two years of “high quality teaching” - claims she regards as false.

    She hopes the case will create a precedent for other students.

    Anglia Ruskin currently ranks 72nd in the Guardian league table of UK universities and 38th for all business courses.
    International Business Management at ARU has higher than average £25k grad starting salary, 11% unemployment (not great but by no means bad), and 71% of those employed are in a professional management role after 6 months.
    https://unistats.ac.uk/subjects/empl...0133/ReturnTo/

    Looking at LinkedIn, ARU International Business alumni are in plenty of senior roles
    https://www.linkedin.com/school/angl...OfStudy=101465

    Ms Wong is not right.
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    Here's hoping she's sued by Disney for bringing their brand into disrepute...
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    I think this will continue as students begin to realise that they have wasted their money, time and effort studying not-so-great courses at not-so-great institutions.

    I have received flak for saying this on here and in real life, but young people need to wake up and start treating universities and courses like they treat us (customers). I honestly do not know what magic the woman expected the University at rank 72 to do for her. Educate her and send her to Goldman Sachs?

    Nick Timothy was right, many kids are getting a rotten deal with uni.

    https://www.holyrood.com/articles/ne...e-nick-timothy

    https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpos...f724d65175/amp
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    I honestly do not know what magic the woman expected the University at rank 72 to do for her. Educate her and send her to Goldman Sachs?
    I doubt Goldman have enough vacancies to employ every graduate, or that every graduate wants to work there.

    That said, there are (at least) 5 ARU alumni currently at GS.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    I doubt Goldman have enough vacancies to employ every graduate, or that every graduate wants to work there.

    That said, there are (at least) 5 ARU alumni currently at GS.
    Tsk tsk, don't dismantle Wired's world-view with hard evidence before we even have the opportunity to hear about the bigly 8.
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    Who are the idiot lawyers taking people like this seriously?
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    (Original post by Notoriety)
    Tsk tsk, don't dismantle Wired's world-view with hard evidence before we even have the opportunity to hear about the bigly 8.
    Yes. Sorry.
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    Well i suppose to some extent it's the universities fault for not properly advising her, but I don't really think she should have sued

    Two Wongs don't make a right (sorry, sorry)
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Who are the idiot lawyers taking people like this seriously?
    The same ones who chase ambulances and invade funerals
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    It's not that outlandish if we look at it as a purchase covered by the Goods Description Act, the question is whether it should be as a consequence of the introduction fees and progressive commercialisation of the sector. In the meantime, unis must be prudent about their sales pitch.
 
 
 
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