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    The government has revealed new plans to rank degree courses in a way similar to the current TEF Ranking system (Gold, Silver and Bronze).

    The current Universities Minister, Sam Gyimah MP who was also interviewed by TSR (you can watch the interview here) said:

    "Prospective students deserve to know which courses deliver great teaching and great outcomes - and which ones are lagging behind. In the age of the student, universities will no longer be able to hide if their teaching quality is not up to the world-class standard that we expect."


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    As with all things government, this will take time and the tool should be released by 2020.

    The BBC article is here

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    What do you think? Would you have found something like this useful when you were applying to universities? Do you have faith in the methodology that might be employed to classify subjects? How would you use this in conjunction with current university rankings?
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    (Original post by Blue_Cow)
    The government has revealed new plans to rank degree courses in a way similar to the current TEF Ranking system (Gold, Silver and Bronze).

    The current Universities Minister, Sam Gyimah MP who was also interviewed by TSR (you can watch the interview here) said:

    "Prospective students deserve to know which courses deliver great teaching and great outcomes - and which ones are lagging behind. In the age of the student, universities will no longer be able to hide if their teaching quality is not up to the world-class standard that we expect."


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    As with all things government, this will take time and the tool should be released by 2020.

    The BBC article is here

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    What do you think? Would you have found something like this useful when you were applying to universities? Do you have faith in the methodology that might be employed to classify subjects?
    By this system, isn't every course at Imperial College going to be rated Gold? Cause STEM and London = Money + the TEF Gold they already have.

    And for other univerisites, would humanities struggle to be Gold? Or is it all relative?
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    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    By this system, isn't every course at Imperial College going to be rated Gold? Cause STEM and London = Money + the TEF Gold they already have.

    And for other univerisites, would humanities struggle to be Gold? Or is it all relative?
    The metrics are all benchmarked against a number of criteria to pin down the influence of the university rather than the profile of the students/subjects they teach.

    http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_Nov_2017.pdf Slide 37 shows what factors are considered for benchmarking each metric
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    So the criteria are going to be great teaching and great outcomes. For me, those two are not necessarily linked.

    Plus I don't want to see smiley-faced ex-polies' lecturers (who use pedagogical tables and acrostics, all the while avoiding any hard content) to be said to have superior teaching over someone who is dry but engaging the most advanced topics in the subject area. I know which one would teach me the most.
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    (Original post by Blue_Cow)
    "Prospective students deserve to know which courses deliver great outcomes"


    That's where things could get interesting. Especially with the news of people suing their university for not getting the job they thought they would / should (paraphrasing).
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    It's not "courses" that are rated. At the moment the plan is to rate each of 35 subject areas:

    Medicine And Dentistry
    Nursing
    Pharmacology, Toxicology And Pharmacy
    Subjects Allied To Medicine Not Otherwise Specified
    Biosciences
    Sport And Exercise Sciences
    Psychology
    Veterinary Sciences
    Agriculture, Food And Related Studies
    Physics And Astronomy
    Chemistry
    Physical, Material And Forensic Sciences
    General And Others In Sciences
    Mathematical Sciences
    Engineering
    Technology
    Computing
    Geographical And Environmental Studies
    Architecture, Building And Planning
    Humanities And Liberal Arts (Non-Specific)
    Sociology, Social Policy And Anthropology
    Economics
    Politics
    Health And Social Care
    Law
    Business And Management
    Communications And Media
    English Studies
    Celtic Studies
    Languages, Linguistics And Classics
    History And Archaeology
    Philosophy And Religious Studies
    Creative Arts And Design
    Education And Teaching
    Combined And General Studies
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    The whole point of the media coverage today is to collect responses to their consultation
    https://consult.education.gov.uk/hig...mes-framework/

    That includes questions on the subject categories used, whether to assess all subjects or just those that differ from the university average, how to measure teaching intensity, whether grade inflation should be included at subject level or not and a bunch of other questions.

    If you've got an opinion about what the TEF should be measuring and what should be considered then the consultation is the way to get your voice heard - posting on this thread wont change government policy.
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    (Original post by PQ)
    It's not "courses" that are rated. At the moment the plan is to rate each of 35 subject areas:

    Medicine And Dentistry
    Nursing
    Pharmacology, Toxicology And Pharmacy
    Subjects Allied To Medicine Not Otherwise Specified
    Biosciences
    Sport And Exercise Sciences
    Psychology
    Veterinary Sciences
    Agriculture, Food And Related Studies
    Physics And Astronomy
    Chemistry
    Physical, Material And Forensic Sciences
    General And Others In Sciences
    Mathematical Sciences
    Engineering
    Technology
    Computing
    Geographical And Environmental Studies
    Architecture, Building And Planning
    Humanities And Liberal Arts (Non-Specific)
    Sociology, Social Policy And Anthropology
    Economics
    Politics
    Health And Social Care
    Law
    Business And Management
    Communications And Media
    English Studies
    Celtic Studies
    Languages, Linguistics And Classics
    History And Archaeology
    Philosophy And Religious Studies
    Creative Arts And Design
    Education And Teaching
    Combined And General Studies
    I wonder why Celtic Studies has it's own 'subject area' whereas all other modern language/area studies subjects are grouped together. Strange.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    I wonder why Celtic Studies has it's own 'subject area' whereas all other modern language/area studies subjects are grouped together. Strange.
    Because Wales.
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    About time. Maybe it'll stop Brittany Chantelle and her 2:1 in Media and Feminist Theatre Studies from some solvent thinking they're Einstein.
 
 
 
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