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    Are we going to actually revolt or just continue meekly accept the current state of affairs? Just let a bunch of fat well paid middle aged tory men tell us to stop buying avacados?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-ne...r-life-crisis/

    Are we going to actually revolt or just continue meekly accept the current state of affairs? Just let a bunch of fat well paid middle aged tory men tell us to stop buying avacados?
    It just seems like a bunch of whiny millenials wanting to try and fault everyone else but themselves and the groups they are part of, hence you shouting at successful people that are making fun of an avocado obsession. It would be like me crying if some random guy on the internet told me to stop eating grapes, I have no need to listen to him

    A """""revolt"""""" from the left would be hilarious, all you know how to do is throw flaming bottles of petrol and chat stupid slogans, you have already lost any stupid fight you consider geting the whole movement in to. Men(Evil Cis men) on the frontline of the lefty trenches would probably complain about the lack of soy milk or the fact that some guy misgendered someone and how many microagressions were happening in the trenches.
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    Millenials want to be old fashioned and modern at the same time.

    No-one can give rights, hopes, conversations, to a contradiction.
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    Not sure what Tories have to do with this...
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    The OP article is very vague and sensationalist. Yes, there are many stresses facing us all. However, the most concerning problems in society (employment sector, wages etc). have developed under successive different governments for decades (they are not brand new problems in the making that have only appeared lately). While it's all fair and well having a go at the "fat well paid middle aged tory men" and that we should "actually revolt";

    1. IMHO you're being pretty naive if you don't believe/realize that other parties like Lib Dem's are labour are also stuffed full of fat cats.

    The more you start closing the gap concerning the actual differences separating our political parties (like how they actually operate VS what they proclaim on their respective tins etc), the closer you get to the truth about the actual state of politics in this country.

    2. Start a revolt? How, pray tell? By voting for a different political party?
    Go for it, but don't expect a revolution that way.
    Tories are on their way out regardless, but don't expect radical change under a Labour leadership either. Labour governments build unviable welfare states, Tories weld great axes chopping up those plans- it cycles around a lot like that.

    (Not that I'm saying that we should abandon our democracy), but with the way our political system is currently managed, the current system/cycle of politics does very little to encourage politicians to build long-term viable solutions or to take much personal accountability over their actions (it's an eternally self-perpetuating blame game).

    Avocado's?
    Just media tripe.
    What you need to realize is that In EVERY generation that has been and gone so far, old and young alike have been pitted against young in VERY predictable trends (leading older people to feel like society is in an eternal state of decline and younger people to feel constantly patronized & misunderstood etc). Apart from shifting trash newspapers/generating clicks, such eternal pitting mostly serves the purpose of having us all against each others throats (while those who are really accountable, never as a consequence have to face any united angry mob against them).

    It's like in the Roman times- the Romans realized that if you keep the barbarian tribes at each other throats by manipulating them against each other, then the barbarians will never stand a chance of uniting (or uniting for long enough) to ever pose any real threat to the Romans (except that in the 21st century, politicians & the media understand this very well and apply the same manipulative politics against the masses). To maintain control and to perpetuate a system that is selfishly favourable, leaders very much understand that to conquer & maintain power, you must keep those you wish to subjugate divided.

    The best way you can start a revolution is to start uniting more with your fellow citizens (of all age groups!), realizing that there's not that much difference between you all, and that the things you ultimately all really want are not dissimilar at all (like a functional NHS, livable ages, better pension schemes, cheaper fuel, better quality food etc), if not identical. But the problem in achieving this end, is that most of us have been tempted and led by the nose into squabbling amongst ourselves, and so the system perpetuates (nothing ever really fundamentally changing for the better etc).
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    In other words, they have some self-declared mental breakdown and anxiety when they leave the safe spaces of education and find the real world isn't that nice.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    It just seems like a bunch of whiny millenials wanting to try and fault everyone else but themselves and the groups they are part of, hence you shouting at successful people that are making fun of an avocado obsession. It would be like me crying if some random guy on the internet told me to stop eating grapes, I have no need to listen to him

    A """""revolt"""""" from the left would be hilarious, all you know how to do is throw flaming bottles of petrol and chat stupid slogans, you have already lost any stupid fight you consider geting the whole movement in to. Men(Evil Cis men) on the frontline of the lefty trenches would probably complain about the lack of soy milk or the fact that some guy misgendered someone and how many microagressions were happening in the trenches.
    To be fair being hit with a bottle of flaming petral is hardly a pleasent experience. I tihnk you are confusing hardcore anarchists with liberal identity politics. I can't square the notion that the left is this timid innefectual snowflakery, but at the same time is a force to be feared lest we repeat the killing fields of cambodia.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    It just seems like a bunch of whiny millenials wanting to try and fault everyone else but themselves and the groups they are part of, hence you shouting at successful people that are making fun of an avocado obsession. It would be like me crying if some random guy on the internet told me to stop eating grapes, I have no need to listen to him

    A """""revolt"""""" from the left would be hilarious, all you know how to do is throw flaming bottles of petrol and chat stupid slogans, you have already lost any stupid fight you consider geting the whole movement in to. Men(Evil Cis men) on the frontline of the lefty trenches would probably complain about the lack of soy milk or the fact that some guy misgendered someone and how many microagressions were happening in the trenches.
    Aren't you like 18?
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    To be fair, I'm not sure why my generation like avocados so much. They're alright but nothing amazing. Doubt it's the reason many can't afford a house tho. If I stopped buying the amount of takeaway I buy at present then I'd still end up at least a good 5-figure amount of money away from what I'd actually need unless I saved for something like 30 years.

    Kind of annoying that the article you've linked and the article they cite both don't bother to include a link to the actual study from somewhere. I'd quite like to see the methodology and specific questions asked. It's hard to form an opinion of how legitimate a concern it all might be when it's as vague as it currently is. Being stressed about finding a job, for example, is at surface level not really a millennial exclusive problem.

    And what's "actually revolting" going to consist of? I've got no real interest in committing acts of violence so it's easier to buy a house when at the end of the day I can just rent for now and save myself the bother. Just voting for another political party is something most young people do already. You don't see many 20 year old tory voters.
    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    A """""revolt"""""" from the left would be hilarious, all you know how to do is throw flaming bottles of petrol and chat stupid slogans, you have already lost any stupid fight you consider geting the whole movement in to. Men(Evil Cis men) on the frontline of the lefty trenches would probably complain about the lack of soy milk or the fact that some guy misgendered someone and how many microagressions were happening in the trenches.
    Can't help but feel like you're confusing all young people with a strange but particularly loud proportion of them. I know a good chunk of people my age who aren't even particularly understanding of fairly basic man-to-woman transgenderism.

    (Original post by Feastful)
    The best way you can start a revolution is to start uniting more with your fellow citizens (of all age groups!), realizing that there's not that much difference between you all, and that the things you ultimately all really want are not dissimilar at all (like a functional NHS, livable ages, better pension schemes, cheaper fuel, better quality food etc), if not identical. But the problem in achieving this end, is that most of us have been tempted and led by the nose into squabbling amongst ourselves, and so the system perpetuates (nothing ever really fundamentally changing for the better etc).
    You make the most sense, congratulation.
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    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    Can't help but feel like you're confusing all young people with a strange but particularly loud proportion of them. I know a good chunk of people my age who aren't even particularly understanding of fairly basic man-to-woman transgenderism.
    I wasn't either until poeple like AperfectBalance decided to make a big deal out of it. Now I'm convinced the future has got to be gender queer. Fully automated luxery gay space communism ftw!


    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    And what's "actually revolting" going to consist of? I've got no real interest in committing acts of violence so it's easier to buy a house when at the end of the day I can just rent for now and save myself the bother. Just voting for another political party is something most young people do already. You don't see many 20 year old tory voters.
    I dunno. Repeating 60s style protest politics. That had varying degrees of success. Botting neoliberal out of offie would be a start. Show some initiative.


    (Original post by Feastful)

    Tories are on their way out regardless
    We thought that in 1992!
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    (Original post by Captain Haddock)
    Aren't you like 18?
    Yes, depending on what definition of milennial you go by I might be one or I might not be, I tend to think of milennials as the people that ar around 23 ish, people out of education with their first real job or two but It really doesnt matter, I can poke fun at people regardless and I am certainly not trying to call for revolution
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    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    To be fair, I'm not sure why my generation like avocados so much. They're alright but nothing amazing. Doubt it's the reason many can't afford a house tho. If I stopped buying the amount of takeaway I buy at present then I'd still end up at least a good 5-figure amount of money away from what I'd actually need unless I saved for something like 30 years.

    Kind of annoying that the article you've linked and the article they cite both don't bother to include a link to the actual study from somewhere. I'd quite like to see the methodology and specific questions asked. It's hard to form an opinion of how legitimate a concern it all might be when it's as vague as it currently is. Being stressed about finding a job, for example, is at surface level not really a millennial exclusive problem.

    And what's "actually revolting" going to consist of? I've got no real interest in committing acts of violence so it's easier to buy a house when at the end of the day I can just rent for now and save myself the bother. Just voting for another political party is something most young people do already. You don't see many 20 year old tory voters.


    Can't help but feel like you're confusing all young people with a strange but particularly loud proportion of them. I know a good chunk of people my age who aren't even particularly understanding of fairly basic man-to-woman transgenderism.


    You make the most sense, congratulation.


    It was mainly a bit of a joke, me suggesting that the soy will run out and the frontlines will crumble is not my argument against a revolution just a bit of fun, not a serious argument
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    To be fair being hit with a bottle of flaming petral is hardly a pleasent experience. I tihnk you are confusing hardcore anarchists with liberal identity politics. I can't square the notion that the left is this timid innefectual snowflakery, but at the same time is a force to be feared lest we repeat the killing fields of cambodia.

    The left has a good history of killing lots of poeple so I'd be careful if I were you. Trebuchet into the sea will be the execution method of choice come the revolution. You have been warned.
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    I dont think anyone has ever been hit by "petral" before but I am sure petrol would hurt quite a bit, and when peoples cars and shops are burning down I dont think they will really like the left too much, the socialist revolutions were mostly so powerful because it was some actual socialists with a bunch of people following them because they had awful treatment and saw it as a way to get freedom not because they are hardcore socialists.

    When making that trebuchet (horribly slow killing machine)
    "I hope you did not cut down any trees cries the green party member, you better not pollute the water with his body, fish could die!"
    "Where are the workers that built this, they need to be the ones who operate this machine as it is their labour"
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    I dont think anyone has ever been hit by "petral"
    I'm dyslexic you twit and my spellchecker don't work.

    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    the socialist revolutions were mostly so powerful because it was some actual socialists with a bunch of people following them because they had awful treatment and saw it as a way to get freedom not because they are hardcore socialists.
    It don't matter. As long as you can muster the arms.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    Yes, depending on what definition of milennial you go by I might be one or I might not be, I tend to think of milennials as the people that ar around 23 ish, people out of education with their first real job or two but It really doesnt matter, I can poke fun at people regardless and I am certainly not trying to call for revolution
    Of course it matters. You have no reference frame here. You are GenZ. Reality check: many millenials are well into their 30s by now, or pushing them. They have significantly more real world experience than you do. They have careers. They have families. They are your teachers, law enforcers, budding politicians. Time to cut the crap.
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    (Original post by Captain Haddock)
    Of course it matters. You have no reference frame here. You are GenZ. Reality check: many millenials are well into their 30s by now, or pushing them. They have significantly more real world experience than you do. They have careers. They have families. They are your teachers, law enforcers, budding politicians. Time to cut the crap.
    Great channeling of the innder dad haddock there.

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    AperfectBalance you just got seen off! XD

    When I first used this website you were in primary school. Being told you have no real world experience by teenagers is one of the most annoying things on this site. Although quite why teenagers want to act like middle aged tory bank managers is beyond me. Act your age!

    Now go to your room and think about what you have done.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    It just seems like a bunch of whiny millenials wanting to try and fault everyone else but themselves and the groups they are part of, hence you shouting at successful people that are making fun of an avocado obsession. It would be like me crying if some random guy on the internet told me to stop eating grapes, I have no need to listen to him

    A """""revolt"""""" from the left would be hilarious, all you know how to do is throw flaming bottles of petrol and chat stupid slogans, you have already lost any stupid fight you consider geting the whole movement in to. Men(Evil Cis men) on the frontline of the lefty trenches would probably complain about the lack of soy milk or the fact that some guy misgendered someone and how many microagressions were happening in the trenches.
    I feel obliged to remind you historically revolts from the left have created the USSR and modern China - are they do be sniffed at?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-ne...r-life-crisis/

    Are we going to actually revolt or just continue meekly accept the current state of affairs? Just let a bunch of fat well paid middle aged tory men tell us to stop buying avacados?
    Agreed. Trouble is, as a social group, you just can't be arsed to vote. Shame really because you could change the world - you just need to turn up.
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    (Original post by Napp)
    I feel obliged to remind you historically revolts from the left have created the USSR and modern China - are they do be sniffed at?
    most of the people in the revolts were not hardcore socialists in a real sense (or whateverists) It was often a bunch of poorly treated peasants that saw the promises of socialim as a way out of the horrible treatment, simmilar how to the Germans saw Hitler as a way out of stagnation and a poor Germany, those people lived in awful awful times and now in England things are pretty good, you would find few willing to be radical certainly not enough to actually fight the govt.
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    (Original post by Captain Haddock)
    Of course it matters. You have no reference frame here. You are GenZ. Reality check: many millenials are well into their 30s by now, or pushing them. They have significantly more real world experience than you do. They have careers. They have families. They are your teachers, law enforcers, budding politicians. Time to cut the crap.
    if "real world experience" means everything then why are the old people not always the wisest people, are old people always correct or valid? I can still make fun of people that whine at whatever age they are.
 
 
 
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