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>>people from a certain area of the world have come to the UK and killed more than a hundred innocent civilians, infiltrated our schools and local government.
>>merely banning said people from the country is inhumane and utterly unjust
Meanwhile in clown world
>>1 Russian defector gets murdered in murky circumstances
>> let’s kick every Russian out and start world war 3!
>>merely banning said people from the country is inhumane and utterly unjust
Meanwhile in clown world
>>1 Russian defector gets murdered in murky circumstances
>> let’s kick every Russian out and start world war 3!
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It appears in clown world they only have the ability to address one issue at a time.
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(Original post by Davij038)
>>people from a certain area of the world have come to the UK and killed more than a hundred innocent civilians, infiltrated our schools and local government.
>>merely banning said people from the country is inhumane and utterly unjust
Meanwhile in clown world
>>1 Russian defector gets murdered in murky circumstances
>> let’s kick every Russian out and start world war 3!
>>people from a certain area of the world have come to the UK and killed more than a hundred innocent civilians, infiltrated our schools and local government.
>>merely banning said people from the country is inhumane and utterly unjust
Meanwhile in clown world
>>1 Russian defector gets murdered in murky circumstances
>> let’s kick every Russian out and start world war 3!
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Over the last few years exactly now many times have you predicted WWIII was about to start again?
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Surely there is a subtle difference between someone you say has killed 100+ people (presumably with a gun that they no longer have in this country?) and someone alleged to have been killed by a state that has several armies, some of the most advanced military equipment and nuclear missiles?
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Over the last few years exactly now many times have you predicted WWIII was about to start again?
Over the last few years exactly now many times have you predicted WWIII was about to start again?
Not predicting world war 3, but I do sense amongst the more rabid liberals and neocons a desire to escalate tensions with Russia
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(Original post by DeBruyne18)
You must be closer to Corbyn than May on the issue of Russia!
You must be closer to Corbyn than May on the issue of Russia!
But for different reasons. He’s a pacifist as far as the UKs concerned. I’m a realist. I’m all for killing bad guys, but only if we benefit from it otherwise leave them to it.
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It appears in clown world they only have the ability to address one issue at a time.
It appears in clown world they only have the ability to address one issue at a time.
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It appears in clown world they only have the ability to address one issue at a time.
It appears in clown world they only have the ability to address one issue at a time.
Of course, the only scenario where that happens is where an insane Russian regime decides to launch nuclear missiles at the West because we stood up to them and imposed pressure and sanctions in response to their lawless acts.
I personally don't find that plausible. Russia is not suicidal. They will not launch a nuclear war against us as a response to sanctions.
But this is all part of a pattern of propaganda crying "Red Baiters" and "Warmongers" to anyone who suggests Russia should be treated reciprocally and we should respond in proportion to Russia's acts of aggression. The moment someone starts pushing that line they cease to have the right to be considered a serious, intelligent interlocutor.
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It is a predictable response by hard leftists and Trumpians that whenever someone floats the idea that maybe we shouldn't just lie down and let Russia rape us geopolitically, that we are warmongers who are going to provoke "World War 3".
It is a predictable response by hard leftists and Trumpians that whenever someone floats the idea that maybe we shouldn't just lie down and let Russia rape us geopolitically, that we are warmongers who are going to provoke "World War 3".
Also- incidentally - I think the Iraq war benefitted Iraq and that Tony Blair is not a war criminal (although he is many other things)
Of course, the only scenario where that happens is where an insane Russiab regime decides to launch nuclear missiles at the West because we stood up to them and imposed pressure and sanctions in response to their lawless acts.
I personally don't find that plausible. Russia is not suicidal. They will not launch a nuclear war against us as a response to sanctions.
I personally don't find that plausible. Russia is not suicidal. They will not launch a nuclear war against us as a response to sanctions.
But this is all part of a pattern of propaganda crying "Red Baiters" and "Warmongers" to anyone who suggests Russia should be treated reciprocally and we should respond in proportion to Russia's acts of aggression. The moment someone starts pushing that line they cease to have the right to be considered a serious, intelligent interlocutor.
You are also guilty of mischaracterising those who are hesitant in condemning Russia as Trumpisns or Hard-leftist when there are people who are neither sceptical also
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(Original post by Davij038)
Possibly. And on intervention more generally.
But for different reasons. He’s a pacifist as far as the UKs concerned. I’m a realist. I’m all for killing bad guys, but only if we benefit from it otherwise leave them to it.
Possibly. And on intervention more generally.
But for different reasons. He’s a pacifist as far as the UKs concerned. I’m a realist. I’m all for killing bad guys, but only if we benefit from it otherwise leave them to it.
When all the media agree on something from the Guardian to the Telegraph to the Sun, it's a good indicator that they are wrong. Is it really that outrageous to suggest that we get confirmation that Russia was indeed behind the attack before we start issuing threats?
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(Original post by Davij038)
>>people from a certain area of the world have come to the UK and killed more than a hundred innocent civilians, infiltrated our schools and local government.
>>merely banning said people from the country is inhumane and utterly unjust
Meanwhile in clown world
>>1 Russian defector gets murdered in murky circumstances
>> let’s kick every Russian out and start world war 3!
>>people from a certain area of the world have come to the UK and killed more than a hundred innocent civilians, infiltrated our schools and local government.
>>merely banning said people from the country is inhumane and utterly unjust
Meanwhile in clown world
>>1 Russian defector gets murdered in murky circumstances
>> let’s kick every Russian out and start world war 3!
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(Original post by Ibrahana)
They were certainly not 'murky circumstances' and the worst thing about it is that they used a nerve agent to kill him, not poison or a bullet, but something that could and did harm innocents. They showed no regard for any innocent lives
They were certainly not 'murky circumstances' and the worst thing about it is that they used a nerve agent to kill him, not poison or a bullet, but something that could and did harm innocents. They showed no regard for any innocent lives
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(Original post by Jjj90)
Word War 3... what? What...? We are further from World War 3 than you are from an Oxford degree.
Word War 3... what? What...? We are further from World War 3 than you are from an Oxford degree.
As said above- not predicting world war 3 but some establishment people would very much like to start a war with Russia.
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(Original post by Davij038)
Meh. I got my degree from Kent uni. I’m pretty happy with it.
As said above- not predicting world war 3 but some establishment people would very much like to start a war with Russia.
Meh. I got my degree from Kent uni. I’m pretty happy with it.
As said above- not predicting world war 3 but some establishment people would very much like to start a war with Russia.
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Who? And what do you mean by "establishment people"? That sounds like a sort of vague Trumpist doesn't-actually-mean-anything-but-gets-the-thick-folk-to-vote-for-me type of argument.
Who? And what do you mean by "establishment people"? That sounds like a sort of vague Trumpist doesn't-actually-mean-anything-but-gets-the-thick-folk-to-vote-for-me type of argument.
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(Original post by Davij038)
Ok, is Russia really the only possible country that could do that and do we have e absoloute prof it was them?
Ok, is Russia really the only possible country that could do that and do we have e absoloute prof it was them?
Take a look at this video http://www.independent.co.uk/video/N...-a8246666.html
I doubt this was a coincidence
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Ok, is Russia really the only possible country that could do that and do we have e absoloute prof it was them?
Ok, is Russia really the only possible country that could do that and do we have e absoloute prof it was them?
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