Should Antifa be labelled as a terrorist organisation in the UK? [Poll]

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Should Antifa be labelled as a terrorist group in the UK?

Yes, they should be banned. 70%

No.30%

Total votes: 46

With far right movements in the UK such as National Action being labelled terrorist organisations and being banned, and with the recent banning of right wing journalist from entering the UK, surely then groups like Antifa should be banned. Terrorism is defined as “the use of violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims”, Antifa attack people in the streets and break into University talks. They aren't a major threat but they are ****ing annoying as hell! At the end of the day they have no real goal, as they are simply thugs in masks harassing Conservatives, I mean they are such a joke! They call themselves anti-fascists, so why not actually fight the real fascists!

Reply 1

999tigger

19

Original post by Alexty28

With far right movements in the UK such as National Action being labelled terrorist organisations and being banned, and with the recent banning of right wing journalist from entering the UK, surely then groups like Antifa should be banned. Terrorism is defined as “the use of violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims”, Antifa attack people in the streets and break into University talks. They aren't a major threat but they are ****ing annoying as hell! At the end of the day they have no real goal, as they are simply thugs in masks harassing Conservatives, I mean they are such a joke! They call themselves anti-fascists, so why not actually fight the real fascists!

Actually its defined as

"acts of terrorism" means acts of persons acting on behalf of, or in connection with, any organisation which carries out activities directed towards the overthrowing or influencing, by force or violence, of Her Majesty's government in the United Kingdom or any other government de jure or de facto.

Doubt Antifa are interested in overthrowing the government.
Anything their members do that is illegal then they should be brought to justice and convicted for.

Reply 2

hannah00

18

no such thing in the UK.

Protesting outside events hosted by racists isnt terrorism, its protesting.

also the right wing activists were not banned, just denied entry.

Which is quite common, people from all over the world of all political backgrounds apply for tourists visas to the UK and get turned down.

(edited 6 years ago)

Reply 3

Stewpid

10

Original post by hannah00

no such thing in the UK.

Protesting outside events hosted by racists isnt terrorism, its protesting.

also the right wing activists were not banned, just denied entry.

Which is quite common, people from all over the world of all political backgrounds apply for tourists visas to the UK and get turned down.

Wrong.

They attack people with different opinions

Watch the following video

[video="youtube;cuUAGwup0Kc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuUAGwup0Kc[/video]

Is this Antifa opposing racism or is it Fascist Antifa attacking people with different political opinions

Reply 4

yudothis

20

"Our streets". I didn't know they owned the streets. Interesting.

Love those morons. They inadvertently admit to wanting to silence those they potentially disagree with (note his sign say I believe in openly discussing ideas, he gave no indication of what he actually thinks). Now that's some real fascism right there. The SA says hello.

Reply 5

Kaffee_1998

19

Original post by hannah00

no such thing in the UK.

Protesting outside events hosted by racists isnt terrorism, its protesting.

also the right wing activists were not banned, just denied entry.

Which is quite common, people from all over the world of all political backgrounds apply for tourists visas to the UK and get turned down.

Will all due respect there's protesting and then there's acting like street thugs. Antifa target individuals who they claim to be 'racists' but are in reality people with different opinions and perspectives to them. They disrupt venues of free speech in universities and college campuses and are more than willing to start fights. This is not protesting this is street thuggery. These fools have more in common with the Brownshirts than they like to admit.

Reply 6

Charles III

21

Antifa are completely ridiculous and deserve just as much disdain as the extremist right. :yy:

Reply 7

fallen_acorns

20

no, and we should stop making everything 'extreme'.

Serriously, the political landscape young is now becoming:

Facists/nazi ------------------- centerists ---------------------- socialist/communist
most conservatives ??? most liberals

We are loosing all sense of where people actually stand as we constantly try and push people towards the extremes. Its happening on both sides.

The amount of normal conservative thinkers and politicians, who sit somewhere just to the right of center who are are being shouted down as 'facists' and 'nazis' is just as stupid as the amount of moderate progressives who are shouted down as communists/socialists.

I would say currently it disproportionately effects the right, but it does happen on both sides. I mean, lets be honest in the eyes of much of the progressive movement, conservatism in its essence is fascist/racist/hateful/disgraceful and should be banned.

Our own politicians don't help. Our priminister may, who by all comparisons over the past century is a center left (yes left) politician, is viewed as far to right wing.. so anyone further right then her must be extreme! Then you get labour who have managed to make the center ground a shameful place to exist, through their hatred of the most successful leader they have had in modern times.

You end up with a very messy political landscape where each side feels threatened by the other.. and when people feel threatened, they lash out. The left is already doing it, I expect the right will follow at one point in the next few years.

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So with all groups like antifa and the like, there is no need to push them to the extreme, and label them with terms like terrorist organisation.. they are just a group of protestors on the left side of the spectrum. If they break the law, arrest them, if not, let them be.

Reply 8

Davij038

13

No, they’re doing a great job (for us on the right)

Reply 9

Crooky0

9

I don't think that they are ideologically unified enough to really be declared a terrorist organisation. They have no distinct ideology apart from a hate of fascists, which isn't bad, its their methods which are

Reply 10

bCranelly

1

Antifa is an anarcho-communist group, do just a tiny bit of research and they'll tell you that themselves. What's the definition of anarchy again? Oh yes, no government...Yes they should be labelled a terrorist group.

Reply 11

Miss Maddie

19

Antifa - left wing fascists who use the tolls of fascism to promote their ideologies. Should've been banned years ago.

Reply 12

username1899909

21

Original post by Crooky0

I don't think that they are ideologically unified enough to really be declared a terrorist organisation. They have no distinct ideology apart from a hate of fascists, which isn't bad, its their methods which are

They should hate themselves then. they are the facists

Reply 13

Crooky0

9

Original post by Hazzer1998

They should hate themselves then. they are the facists

I see the similarity, but it would be dumb to simply label them as fascists as well. In doing so you don't take into account the ideological differences between antifa and the people they oppose (the actual self-proclaimed fascists), otherwise you wouldn't know why they are fighting each other

Reply 14

username1899909

21

Original post by Crooky0

I see the similarity, but it would be dumb to simply label them as fascists as well. In doing so you don't take into account the ideological differences between antifa and the people they oppose (the actual self-proclaimed fascists), otherwise you wouldn't know why they are fighting each other

I don't 100% disagree with what you are saying, yes there are clear ideological differences between ANTIFA and fascists, but they run around in balaclavas, wearing flags around, deciding who is entitled to speak and label anyone who disagrees with them "Fascist" i.e. Sargon who is a classical liberal.to fit their narrative. like fascists.

(edited 6 years ago)

Reply 15

jdddd

19

Original post by Stewpid

Wrong.

They attack people with different opinions

Watch the following video

[video="youtube;cuUAGwup0Kc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuUAGwup0Kc[/video]

Is this Antifa opposing racism or is it Fascist Antifa attacking people with different political opinions

They attacked a 'Free speech march' literally just wanting and celebrating Free speech, No right wing propaganda, No left wing propaganda people just came together for free speech. Trying to shut down free speech events like this is quite Fascist from the suspossedely 'Anit Fascit' mob.

Reply 16

jdddd

19

Original post by Davij038

No, they’re doing a great job (for us on the right)

Hahaha actually quite true. Probably a big reason Trump won!

Reply 17

Stewpid

10

Original post by jdddd

Hahaha actually quite true. Probably a big reason Trump won!

Trump won on immigration and his economics

Reply 18

Crooky0

9

Original post by Hazzer1998

I don't 100% disagree with what you are saying, yes there are clear ideological differences between ANTIFA and fascists, but they run around in balaclavas, wearing flags around, deciding who is entitled to speak and label anyone who disagrees with them "Fascist" i.e. Sargon who is a classical liberal.to fit their narrative. like fascists.

Personally I'm a leftist, always have been, but what antifa are doing with trying to suppress freedom of speech is simply going to push more people to the far right. If it were actual fascists preaching race hate they were attacking then I might not have a problem, but although I may disagree with the ideologies of right wing conservatives, I don't think they shouldn't be allowed to give speeches and have debates .etc. Trying to change someones political viewpoint by force will simply entrench their views further. Debate is the only way the left are going to have to try and turn more people to their cause. Antifa should only exist as nothing more than a complete reactionary force towards actual fascists who are trying to cause harm to people. The moment they tried to force themselves into debates and talks to try and shut people (who may have been right wing but obviously not fascist) down, they lost my support.

Reply 19

jdddd

19

Original post by Stewpid

Trump won on immigration and his economics

Antifa helped. People were annoyed at their antics and gave Trump more and more media coverage as did the lefty media as they say sometimes any media even bad media is good media. Trump couldn't of reached a big audience without their advertisement lol

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