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    - Only 15% of people went to university 50+ years ago.
    - Most of the 15% were rich middle / upper classes who went to grammar and public schools.
    - These schools were very conservative in the British sense. They promoted British values. A product of this was institutional racism and discrimination of the poor and non-whites i.e. 'You are below me class system way of thinking.'
    - Therefore, the vast majority of the 15% of students at university would have been right wing, conservative, with little or no regard for both non-whites and poor people alike.
    Therefore, universities 50+ years ago would have been comprised of majority right wing students and staff, most of whom would have held the 'You are below me' way of thinking.


    Fast forward to 2018.

    - Universities are very left wing. They promote Marxist and communist ideologies.
    - The line of thinking at university very much opposes public schools, the wealthy and capitalism, all of which the 15% would have admired 30+ years ago when universities were right wing.
    - Consequently, the middle and some extent upper classes very much promote these left wing ideologies today.

    So my question is: when did universities change from being right wing to left wing? How do students handle the disconnect between right wing public schooling and left wing university education?

    Any thoughts?
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    "- Universities are very left wing. They promote Marxist and communist ideologies."

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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    (Original post by sueright)
    - Only 15% of people went to university 50+ years ago.
    - Most of the 15% were rich middle / upper classes who went to grammar and public schools.
    - These schools were very conservative in the British sense. They promoted British values. A product of this was institutional racism and discrimination of the poor and non-whites i.e. 'You are below me class system way of thinking.'
    - Therefore, the vast majority of the 15% of students at university would have been right wing, conservative, with little or no regard for both non-whites and poor people alike.
    Therefore, universities 50+ years ago would have been comprised of majority right wing students and staff, most of whom would have held the 'You are below me' way of thinking.


    Fast forward to 2018.

    - Universities are very left wing. They promote Marxist and communist ideologies.
    - The line of thinking at university very much opposes public schools, the wealthy and capitalism, all of which the 15% would have admired 30+ years ago when universities were right wing.
    - Consequently, the middle and some extent upper classes very much promote these left wing ideologies today.

    So my question is: when did universities change from being right wing to left wing? How do students handle the disconnect between right wing public schooling and left wing university education?

    Any thoughts?
    We need examples mate
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    (Original post by TrelaiBoy)
    "- Universities are very left wing. They promote Marxist and communist ideologies."

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Well if you don't agree with the basic premise of my argument, you might as well leave.
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    (Original post by Jang Gwangnam)
    We need examples mate
    Examples of what? Statistics? Be more specific.
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    (Original post by sueright)
    Well if you don't agree with the basic premise of my argument, you might as well leave.
    You'll be hard pressed to find people who genuinely think that universities promote Marxism and Communism
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    (Original post by sueright)
    Well if you don't agree with the basic premise of my argument, you might as well leave.
    Don't want your opinions challenged?

    You've made a pretty bold claim, provide some evidence of it or the basic premise can be held to be false and this thread can be deleted.
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    I'm not sure there's been a switch.

    Most people tend to be more left wing when they are younger, even if they are richer or more poshly educated. People become more right wing when they get older and richer.

    University teachers tend to be left wing too. They are usually high achievers who instead of pursuing money pursue a job giving back to society more.

    These two factors probably haven't changed. But I would be interested to see any actual data.
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    (Original post by sueright)
    Well if you don't agree with the basic premise of my argument, you might as well leave.
    so you are no-platforming TrelaiBoy ?

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    (Original post by sueright)
    - Only 15% of people went to university 50+ years ago.
    - Most of the 15% were rich middle / upper classes who went to grammar and public schools.
    - These schools were very conservative in the British sense. They promoted British values. A product of this was institutional racism and discrimination of the poor and non-whites i.e. 'You are below me class system way of thinking.'
    - Therefore, the vast majority of the 15% of students at university would have been right wing, conservative, with little or no regard for both non-whites and poor people alike.
    Therefore, universities 50+ years ago would have been comprised of majority right wing students and staff, most of whom would have held the 'You are below me' way of thinking.


    Fast forward to 2018.

    - Universities are very left wing. They promote Marxist and communist ideologies.
    - The line of thinking at university very much opposes public schools, the wealthy and capitalism, all of which the 15% would have admired 30+ years ago when universities were right wing.
    - Consequently, the middle and some extent upper classes very much promote these left wing ideologies today.

    So my question is: when did universities change from being right wing to left wing? How do students handle the disconnect between right wing public schooling and left wing university education?

    Any thoughts?
    Your "therefore..." is an incorrect conclusion. Most university students, and academics, have always tended to be leftish.

    Eg. https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...10/students.uk

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    Academics (especially of the humanities) have never worked in the real world. Ivory tower socialism at its finest!
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    Universities tend to be very revenue-focused, like businesses.
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    Universities tend to be very revenue-focused, like businesses.
    The management might be, but the academics and students... not so much.

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    (Original post by chazwomaq)
    I'm not sure there's been a switch.

    Most people tend to be more left wing when they are younger, even if they are richer or more poshly educated. People become more right wing when they get older and richer.

    University teachers tend to be left wing too. They are usually high achievers who instead of pursuing money pursue a job giving back to society more.

    These two factors probably haven't changed. But I would be interested to see any actual data.
    From what, I've read, there are five broad explanations of why academics on average lean left:

    i) The strong right view - Right-wing students and academics are deliberately marked down, discouraged and discriminated against in academia for political reasons.

    ii) The strong left view - Right-wing political ideas are more attractive to those who aren't as smart, and so the less bright are more inclined to be right-wing.

    iii) The softer right view - There's no deliberate discrimination against right-wingers in academia, but an overall left-leaning atmosphere discourages them from pursuing studies further, and so the next generation of staff remain left-leaning, and so on in a vicious circle.

    iv) The softer left view - Right-wingers are no less smart, but ultimately the research and evidence tends to support "left-wing" conclusions, which right-wingers then choose to politicise out of obstinacy.

    v) The neutral view - Right wingers are more motivated by money, and so are more attracted to the higher-paying private sector jobs outside academia.

    And of course, you can say it's a mix of two or more of the above.
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    When their funding became dependent on the public purse.
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    (Original post by sueright)
    - Only 15% of people went to university 50+ years ago.
    - Most of the 15% were rich middle / upper classes who went to grammar and public schools.
    - These schools were very conservative in the British sense. They promoted British values. A product of this was institutional racism and discrimination of the poor and non-whites i.e. 'You are below me class system way of thinking.'
    - Therefore, the vast majority of the 15% of students at university would have been right wing, conservative, with little or no regard for both non-whites and poor people alike.
    Therefore, universities 50+ years ago would have been comprised of majority right wing students and staff, most of whom would have held the 'You are below me' way of thinking.


    Fast forward to 2018.

    - Universities are very left wing. They promote Marxist and communist ideologies.
    - The line of thinking at university very much opposes public schools, the wealthy and capitalism, all of which the 15% would have admired 30+ years ago when universities were right wing.
    - Consequently, the middle and some extent upper classes very much promote these left wing ideologies today.

    So my question is: when did universities change from being right wing to left wing? How do students handle the disconnect between right wing public schooling and left wing university education?

    Any thoughts?
    Don't think unis quite promote such theories but maybe because as you said, unis aren't just for the rich and elite but when it gets to the highest, those who are the smartest irrespective of their background?
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    To fill their pockets as with every other institution. Conforming to the liberals = more money. Not hard
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    (Original post by bars from mars)
    When their funding became dependent on the public purse.
    Which was when? :beard:

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    Mainstream, rather than fringe, probably latter part of the 1960s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studen...United_Kingdom
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    Mainstream, rather than fringe, probably latter part of the 1960s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studen...United_Kingdom
    Even your wiki reference says "During the 1930s students began to become more politically involved with the formation of many socialist societies at universities, ranging from social democratic to Marxist–Leninist and Trotskyite, even leading to Brian Simon, a communist, becoming head of the NUS."
 
 
 
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