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Okay, everybody

I am an EU student who got into a MEng CS and Artificial Intelligence at Imperial ( 4 years) and a BSc CS at UCL.
My main problem is that I am dirt poor (my family earns £800 a month) and that`s how much it would cost me a month to live at Imperial. Needless to say, I would need a part time job. Imperial offers EUs no help.
Now, at UCL I found at £600 a month a room with food and bills included and they also offer me a £2500 bursary.
What should I do ? Is Imperial worth it?(Also,my father has depression and I don`t want to push him over the edge with stress ). Is UCL not good enough to get me job in a big company or masters in Computation for Finance ( I want to make the most money with my degree) or I could make a *****on of money with the A.I. degree from Imperial ?
Please help. I lose more hair by the day
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They're both good but Imperial has way better links with top tech companies.
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The difference between the two is relatively marginal in all honesty. The difference Imperial makes is unlikely to be worth the potential opportunity cost it's representing you. However you may be able to find somewhere in London further out from Imperial and walk/get public transport in from a cheaper borough, so you may want to research the living costs outside of university halls (there are of course various downsides associated with that and the difference may not be large enough to be worth it).

"Worst case" scenario you can still do a PhD at Imperial which will usually be funded by a studentship of comparable value to a grad job (albeit not on the higher end of the scale, but you are getting more out of it than just a paycheck). Either way it's disingenuous to suggest you won't be able to get a job at a reputable company with a CS degree from UCL as compared with Imperial.
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I have studied at both Imperial and UCL (Maths and Computer Science) and here is my opinion on your situation:

Both universities are excellent, but Imperial undoubtedly has a much better reputation for Computer Science. The course is going to be very hard and challenging. However while I was at Imperial, I knew several computer science students who did web development as a part time job and they were making a LOT of money, enough to be comfortable. I think it makes sense for you to get a part time job in web dev given your degree, as it will pay better and you'll be learning and building up your CV at the same time. If you don't have any experience in web dev, then try and get some / practice making your own web apps and deploying them before you come to university.

There are some very intelligent people at UCL and many get very good jobs or masters at the end of their degree. UCL has a great reputation. A lot of top employers look at your GitHub / Kaggle Competitions to see what you have done outside of your degree. It doesn't matter if you went to Imperial or UCL if you have worked on some amazing projects to showcase your skill. Which university is going to give you more free time to do that? Does UCL offer that £2500 bursary every year or is it just once? Also, UCL has a much more balanced environment than Imperial, due to the mix of students studying both science and arts, and the gender ratio is much better. Do you want to study at Imperial which is mainly male, or at UCL which is closer to 50% male, 50% female? It is important to think about where you will be most comfortable and enjoy studying. It is a lot better to get a 1st from UCL than a 2:2 from Imperial.

Finally, there is so much demand for computer science graduates in London that if you are intelligent and motivated, you are guaranteed to get a fantastic job regardless of which university you pick. Imperial and UCL put together don't even come close to supplying enough graduates to meet the demand. Also, I understand the feeling of wanting to make the most money possible after your degree. I too wanted to do the same thing and initially went straight into finance. However computer science is a fantastic degree as it gives you so much flexibility. Don't tie yourself down too early. Take your time to find out what you truly love. Do some summer internships at different companies. Figure out what your passion is. If you are only doing a job for the money then believe me you will come to hate it sooner or later. It is not sustainable and you will burn out. Remember you will work for the rest of your life so don't rush into employment, studying is a privilege, don't give it up too soon. And if you find something that you are truly interested in and passionate about then specialise in that. The specialty will set you apart and ultimately allow you to earn a lot more money in the long term while being happy.
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(Original post by Obsessed_with_Ox)
Okay, everybody

I am an EU student who got into a MEng CS and Artificial Intelligence at Imperial ( 4 years) and a BSc CS at UCL.
My main problem is that I am dirt poor (my family earns £800 a month) and that`s how much it would cost me a month to live at Imperial. Needless to say, I would need a part time job. Imperial offers EUs no help.
Now, at UCL I found at £600 a month a room with food and bills included and they also offer me a £2500 bursary.
What should I do ? Is Imperial worth it?(Also,my father has depression and I don`t want to push him over the edge with stress ). Is UCL not good enough to get me job in a big company or masters in Computation for Finance ( I want to make the most money with my degree) or I could make a *****on of money with the A.I. degree from Imperial ?
Please help. I lose more hair by the day
How about the accomodation at Imperial? How much more will it cost you relative to UCL’s?
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(Original post by hairybiker)
I have studied at both Imperial and UCL (Maths and Computer Science) and here is my opinion on your situation:

Both universities are excellent, but Imperial undoubtedly has a much better reputation for Computer Science. The course is going to be very hard and challenging. However while I was at Imperial, I knew several computer science students who did web development as a part time job and they were making a LOT of money, enough to be comfortable. I think it makes sense for you to get a part time job in web dev given your degree, as it will pay better and you'll be learning and building up your CV at the same time. If you don't have any experience in web dev, then try and get some / practice making your own web apps and deploying them before you come to university.

There are some very intelligent people at UCL and many get very good jobs or masters at the end of their degree. UCL has a great reputation. A lot of top employers look at your GitHub / Kaggle Competitions to see what you have done outside of your degree. It doesn't matter if you went to Imperial or UCL if you have worked on some amazing projects to showcase your skill. Which university is going to give you more free time to do that? Does UCL offer that £2500 bursary every year or is it just once? Also, UCL has a much more balanced environment than Imperial, due to the mix of students studying both science and arts, and the gender ratio is much better. Do you want to study at Imperial which is mainly male, or at UCL which is closer to 50% male, 50% female? It is important to think about where you will be most comfortable and enjoy studying. It is a lot better to get a 1st from UCL than a 2:2 from Imperial.

Finally, there is so much demand for computer science graduates in London that if you are intelligent and motivated, you are guaranteed to get a fantastic job regardless of which university you pick. Imperial and UCL put together don't even come close to supplying enough graduates to meet the demand. Also, I understand the feeling of wanting to make the most money possible after your degree. I too wanted to do the same thing and initially went straight into finance. However computer science is a fantastic degree as it gives you so much flexibility. Don't tie yourself down too early. Take your time to find out what you truly love. Do some summer internships at different companies. Figure out what your passion is. If you are only doing a job for the money then believe me you will come to hate it sooner or later. It is not sustainable and you will burn out. Remember you will work for the rest of your life so don't rush into employment, studying is a privilege, don't give it up too soon. And if you find something that you are truly interested in and passionate about then specialise in that. The specialty will set you apart and ultimately allow you to earn a lot more money in the long term while being happy.
You mentioned you went into Finance with a Computer Science degree? Did you go the internship route, where you secured an internship in finance or went for it straight out of graduation?

Do you mind telling me how you advertised yourself as I think trying to put a CV together when you don't do finance/economics based modules is quite difficult.
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(Original post by Obsessed_with_Ox)
Okay, everybody

I am an EU student who got into a MEng CS and Artificial Intelligence at Imperial ( 4 years) and a BSc CS at UCL.
My main problem is that I am dirt poor (my family earns £800 a month) and that`s how much it would cost me a month to live at Imperial. Needless to say, I would need a part time job. Imperial offers EUs no help.
Now, at UCL I found at £600 a month a room with food and bills included and they also offer me a £2500 bursary.
What should I do ? Is Imperial worth it?(Also,my father has depression and I don`t want to push him over the edge with stress ). Is UCL not good enough to get me job in a big company or masters in Computation for Finance ( I want to make the most money with my degree) or I could make a *****on of money with the A.I. degree from Imperial ?
Please help. I lose more hair by the day
Omg, I totally empathise with your situation, I'm from the EU myself. UCL and Imperial are both thought of extremely highly here, in the G5 with Oxbridge, so I wouldn't worry about job prospects (UCL actually has the highest in the country when looking at employment 6 months after graduation). However, I'm no expert at this, but maybe research the links Imperial has to employers, as UCL is multi-faculty and Imperial specialises in the STEM subjects, so perhaps has a more direct focus. I hope this helps, and good luck!
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Thank you for all the kind responses. I have picked UCL in the end, as the bursary and the cheaper accomodation at UCL are a decisive factor. Also, I think I can get my BSc from UCL and go to Imperial for a MSc.
All the best
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Omg, I totally empathise with your situation, I'm from the EU myself. UCL and Imperial are both thought of extremely highly here, in the G5 with Oxbridge, so I wouldn't worry about job prospects (UCL actually has the highest in the country when looking at employment 6 months after graduation). However, I'm no expert at this, but maybe research the links Imperial has to employers, as UCL is multi-faculty and Imperial specialises in the STEM subjects, so perhaps has a more direct focus. I hope this helps, and good luck!
Out of curiosity, wdymm by ‘the G5?
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