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Does the Quran say that the earth is flat??

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Reply 180
Original post by Plantagenet Crown
The Earth is a sphere and that's all there is to it. All the evidence proves this to be so, including photographs of the Earth from space. It's not a conspiracy, what the hell would anyone have to gain by pretending the planet's spherical rather than flat?


You are not a Muslim. Who are you to deny the scholars of Mecca and verses in the Quran? What happens when Muslims begin to bring your beliefs under the microscope, seeing as you're so confident questioning theirs? Feel confident defending them Mr Spinningball man? Be careful in the bed in your house tonight, clinging to the side of your ball. Wouldn't want you rolling out of it and sleeping on the wall would we now?
[Quran 39.5] [God] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawer in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?

The Arabic word "Kura" means ball; its verb "Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ" means to make into a ball. The Quran says that the overlapping of the night and the day makes a ball (sphere). Here also the Quran is referring to ALL MOVING, not only the sun and moon but also Earth. In Arabic grammar there is difference between the singular (one), binary (two) and plural (three or more). The reference to binary is "Kulahuma Yajreean كلاهما يجريان" however the Quran said "Kullon yajree كل يجري" referring to the plural (three or more). Since the sun and moon are just two but the Quran refers to three or more then according to the Quran all the three move: sun, moon and Earth.The Quran says that Earth has a diameter (diameter is simply twice the radius).

[Quran 55,33] O company of Jinn and man, escape the diameters (Aktar in Arabic اقطار) of the Heavens and the Earth if you can, You won't escape without authority.

Diameter in Arabic is Kutr قطر. Its plural is Aktar اقطار. Radii and diameters are properties of circles or spheres only. This conforms with the previous verse, to make into a ball [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ].
Reply 182
Original post by simple123site
[Quran 39.5] [God] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawer in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?

The Arabic word "Kura" means ball; its verb "Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ" means to make into a ball. The Quran says that the overlapping of the night and the day makes a ball (sphere). Here also the Quran is referring to ALL MOVING, not only the sun and moon but also Earth. In Arabic grammar there is difference between the singular (one), binary (two) and plural (three or more). The reference to binary is "Kulahuma Yajreean كلاهما يجريان" however the Quran said "Kullon yajree كل يجري" referring to the plural (three or more). Since the sun and moon are just two but the Quran refers to three or more then according to the Quran all the three move: sun, moon and Earth.The Quran says that Earth has a diameter (diameter is simply twice the radius).

[Quran 55,33] O company of Jinn and man, escape the diameters (Aktar in Arabic اقطار) of the Heavens and the Earth if you can, You won't escape without authority.

Diameter in Arabic is Kutr قطر. Its plural is Aktar اقطار. Radii and diameters are properties of circles or spheres only. This conforms with the previous verse, to make into a ball [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ].


Pilgrim? Is this you again?
[Quran 50.7] And the earth We have spread it out (والارض مددناها), and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely pairs (of plants).

The Quran says that God spread out the Earth 'والارض مددناها' meaning increase in surface area during formation. 'Madda' in Arabic means 'spread out', however it was mistranslated to 'flat'. Flat in Arabic is "musattah مسطح" and its verb (to make flat) is "sataha سطح" however neither were used in the entire Quran. The Quran says that God spread out Earth, that is, increased the surface area. Our solar system is 4.57 billion years old. Earth started accreting concurrently with the sun and our neighbouring planets 4.57 bln years ago. However during the accretion process the radius of Earth was not spontaneously 6400 km; but rather started a few kilometers long and progressively increased. But the surface area is a function of the radius, that is, as the radius increases the surface area increases (surface area = 4πR
Original post by Drummond
Pilgrim? Is this you again?


LOL, no. I legit googled it.
@simple123site

Note there is surely a difference between "earth" and "Earth"

Names (proper nouns) are capitalised.

Thus "earth" refers to the ground not the planet
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Original post by Drummond
Pilgrim? Is this you again?

Here's someone talking about your thread topic and giving evidence that contradicts your original statement : "I can't find anything in the Quran which states the earth as being a sphere, or a ball."

Aren't you going to respond to this information?
Original post by Notnek
Here's someone talking about your thread topic and giving evidence that contradicts your original statement : "I can't find anything in the Quran which states the earth as being a sphere, or a ball."

Aren't you going to respond to this information?


He has not ears to hear nor eyes to see Notnek. Neither will he set up the simple pendulum I challenged him to make which would prove to him that the Earth moves. His ego will not permit the humility required to admit when he is wrong.
Original post by Drummond
Read the thread through and see the reactions, someone even said they felt sick.


Oh, and the poster who said the thread made them ill was our mutual friend @ageshallnot :smile:

Once again your textual comprehension has deserted you.
Original post by PilgrimOfTruth
He has not ears to hear nor eyes to see Notnek. Neither will he set up the simple pendulum I challenged him to make which would prove to him that the Earth moves. His ego will not permit the humility required to admit when he is wrong.

I just think that if he doesn't respond to these things then the thread is pointless. It's not "Does the Quran say that the Earth is flat?" but "The Quran says that the Earth is flat.".

That's why the thread is mainly just people criticising the flat Earth theory.
Reply 191
Original post by simple123site
LOL, no. I legit googled it.


So are you saying the Quran says it's a stationary ball then?
Original post by Drummond
So are you saying the Quran says it's a stationary ball then?


The Quran says that the sun, the moon and the Earth are all moving.
Reply 193
Original post by Notnek
I just think that if he doesn't respond to these things then the thread is pointless. It's not "Does the Quran say that the Earth is flat?" but "The Quran says that the Earth is flat.".

That's why the thread is mainly just people criticising the flat Earth theory.

A carpet is not a ball Notnek. As much as you would like the thread removed, you are not a Muslim or a believer of any kind, to question whether the thread is justified.

Why are you so concerned about this thread mate to write what you do? Just interested because we don't see you in the faith section too often. Are you interested in the Bible and Quran? Or just ones which describe the shape and lack of movement of the world?

Come and join us in other threads here too, so you can learn much more about scriptures perhaps?
Reply 194
If the thread is pointless to you @Notnek, then go and count to a million or something with the others. You don't have to be here.
Original post by Drummond
Why are you so concerned about this thread mate to write what you do?

Because I'm the new moderator for Faith and Spirituality - ask @Doonesbury. I care deeply about thread content.

And if you say "carpet" one more time I'll ban you.
Reply 196
Original post by PilgrimOfTruth
The Quran says that the sun, the moon and the Earth are all moving.


Well that's not what these scholars of Mecca are saying is it?

[video]https://youtu.be/LTI1VRrLqro[/video]
Original post by Drummond
You are not a Muslim. Who are you to deny the scholars of Mecca and verses in the Quran? What happens when Muslims begin to bring your beliefs under the microscope, seeing as you're so confident questioning theirs? Feel confident defending them Mr Spinningball man? Be careful in the bed in your house tonight, clinging to the side of your ball. Wouldn't want you rolling out of it and sleeping on the wall would we now?


What sort of crackpot logic is this? Anyone can deny and refute verses in the Quran, be they Muslim or no.

You clearly don't know how gravity works, the entire spherical planet is pulling you towards the centre of the Earth so you're not going to fly off it or roll off.
Original post by Plantagenet Crown
What sort of crackpot logic is this? Anyone can deny and refute verses in the Quran, be they Muslim or no.

You clearly don't know how gravity works, the entire spherical planet is pulling you towards the centre of the Earth so you're not going to fly off it or roll off.


Great, another sphere believer.

When will you follow scientific evidence and realise the earth is flat?
Original post by Kyber Ninja
Great, another sphere believer.

When will you follow scientific evidence and realise the earth is flat?


:Lol:

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