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A210 - Parliamentary Oath AmendmentProposed by: Rt Hon. Unown Uzer MP (UKIP)
Seconded by: Rt Hon. CountBrandenburg MP (Libt), Rt Hon. PetrosAC MP (Lib), Hon. ThatsAGoodOne MP (Con), Hon. Andrew97 MP (Con),


Parliamentary Oath Amendment

This House shall adjust the Guidance Document as follows:
Three new clauses (17), (18), and (19) shall be added to the MP section of the Guidance Document.

The new clause (17) shall read:
"An MP is not entitled to a seat in the Model House of Commons and shall not be granted the ability to vote in the division lobby until (s)he has taken an Oath of Allegiance or has made a solemn affirmation for the term of Parliament in which he seeks to take his seat and be granted voting rights in division, using the wording of the Oath of Allegiance or solemn affirmation as stated in this section. The Speaker shall open and maintain a specialised thread for MPs to take an Oath of Allegiance or make a solemn affirmation, and an MP shall take their Oath of Allegiance or make a solemn affirmation in said specialised thread before (s)he is allowed to take his seat or be granted the ability to vote in the division lobby."

The new clause (18) shall read:
"The wording of the Oath of Allegiance is: 'I, [insert username here], swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.' When taking an Oath of Allegiance, an MP shall insert his username wherever the wording of the Oath of Allegiance contains '[insert username here]'."

The new clause (19) shall read:
"The wording of the solemn affirmation is: 'I, [insert username here], do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law.' When making a solemn affirmation, an MP shall insert his username wherever the wording of the solemn affirmation contains '[insert username here]'."

Notes:
In order to make the MHoC simulate the RL HoC more accurately, MPs shall be required to take an Oath of Allegiance or solemn affirmation, as that is what MPs need to do to be granted voting rights in real life.
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Yeah don’t see why not
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An Aye from me.
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Absolutely not.
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It could be done tidier by simply stating that it is done in accordance with Parliamentary Oaths Act 1866
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Nay, oaths are a nice touch but it would be too hard to get vobots to do it
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Good amendment from my right honourable friend.
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I see that oaths would be a way to add a little more realism to the House, but from an administration perspective it'd be a pain getting all MPs to do it at the beginning of the term and then any proxy/replacement MPs that come in after that time.
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No.

Also I don't believe the MHoC needs to better resemble the RL HoC. We're our own place with our own procedures.
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I think this is a very good move!
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Nah I'm good thanks.

I don't like the religiousness in new clause 18 and I'm not too big of a fan of clause 19 either. I'd personally rather an MP swore allegiance to the people than to God or the monarchy, but that's just my personal opinion.
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No, horrendous idea.
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(Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
Nay, oaths are a nice touch but it would be too hard to get vobots to do it
I think that's only a problem for some parties.:sly:
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(Original post by 04MR17)
I think that's only a problem for some parties.:sly:
Yes, ones which win elections😉
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Nay, this overcomplicates the administration of the house and would likely cause more issues than realism is worth.
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Nay, oaths are a nice touch but it would be too hard to get vobots to do it
If your MPs are so inactive they won't even take a copy+paste oath, then they really shouldn't be MPs. It would also help get inactive MPs out of MP seats so that active members can take those seats.
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No. The idea that a republican should have to choose between forgoing their principles or their seat is an absolute affront to democracy.
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Aye.

This is a "model" House of Commons after all...
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(Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
Nay, oaths are a nice touch but it would be too hard to get vobots to do it
There is a solution

(Original post by Saoirse:3)
No. The idea that a republican should have to choose between forgoing their principles or their seat is an absolute affront to democracy.
Well, if you weren't treasonous, and somehow they manage IRL...
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