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I am currently working as band 3 MLA but my lab doesn't support towards the registration portfolio. I can apply somewhere else but I am scared like what will happen if they don't support either. I am very depressed because I don't know what is the best course of action. The problem with me now is that i want to get registered asap and start looking for trainee/bms posts. I am also contacting some other hospitals aswel whether I can get registered while working voluntarily but I have not got any response yet. I know the only solution might be to keep applying until I get one where I will get all support. But does anyone have a better suggestion
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I am currently working as band 3 MLA but my lab doesn't support towards the registration portfolio. I can apply somewhere else but I am scared like what will happen if they don't support either. I am very depressed because I don't know what is the best course of action. The problem with me now is that i want to get registered asap and start looking for trainee/bms posts. I am also contacting some other hospitals aswel whether I can get registered while working voluntarily but I have not got any response yet. I know the only solution might be to keep applying until I get one where I will get all support. But does anyone have a better suggestion
RegisteredBMS can you help?
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But to answer your question, things you can do:

Apply for some other labs in your speciality, maybe email their admin support to ask if they are a registered training lab. You should be able to find some record of if they are from previous jobs they've listed (can probably find these as dead links on random jobs websites if they've not got any live ones). If you don't get responses you may want to press them again after a week or so as a lot of these people think it's acceptable to ignore/not reply to emails. You can also email the IBMS directly and ask which labs are accredited.

Have at look at the NSHCS PTP / STP programme and equivalence schemes. You may find this a better route to get into, depending on what position you are in your life (living arrangement, children etc)

Don't feel depressed, you're in the hospital system at the moment and that is a good step. You'll be picking up lots of valid experience you can take elsewhere.
The STP isn't to become a BMS and the PTP would be a 2nd UG degree which brings funding problems.

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This is the issue that many have and it is why I massively advice the PTP for your undergraduate degree. I'm assuming you do at least have an IBMS-accredited degree?

All you can do is be truthful but I would extend that to your current laboratory. Begin applying for MLA/AP/Trainee BMS roles and when you get your first interview make your current lab aware, don't hide it. They are required to give you up to 5 Special Leave days a year. NHS interviews fall into this. The reason I say to tell them is that I've known labs fold in situations like this. What costs more, going through the process (and lottery) of hiring a new staff member or training you further?

Don't be picky about specialisms either. I trained in one discipline and then moved to another. It's a hard profession to get into when you've not taken the most direct route so you can't afford to be picky.
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The STP isn't to become a BMS and the PTP would be a 2nd UG degree which brings funding problems.

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This is the issue that many have and it is why I massively advice the PTP for your undergraduate degree. I'm assuming you do at least have an IBMS-accredited degree?

All you can do is be truthful but I would extend that to your current laboratory. Begin applying for MLA/AP/Trainee BMS roles and when you get your first interview make your current lab aware, don't hide it. They are required to give you up to 5 Special Leave days a year. NHS interviews fall into this. The reason I say to tell them is that I've known labs fold in situations like this. What costs more, going through the process (and lottery) of hiring a new staff member or training you further?

Don't be picky about specialisms either. I trained in one discipline and then moved to another. It's a hard profession to get into when you've not taken the most direct route so you can't afford to be picky.
Thank you for your response. Yes I do have an IBMS accredited degree. I emailed many hospital pathology labs and phoned some of them aswel. But no luck.. I am ready to work as a volunteer support staff and get my registration done in the meantime. But this route seems very difficult too as I don't know any specific labs who support for portfolios after graduation. I am confident that i will get my registration done within 3-6 months depending on the lab. Finding a trainee job without registration is next to impossible. I can only apply for MLA/AP, and will see if their lab can support me.
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Thank you for your response. Yes I do have an IBMS accredited degree. I emailed many hospital pathology labs and phoned some of them aswel. But no luck.. I am ready to work as a volunteer support staff and get my registration done in the meantime. But this route seems very difficult too as I don't know any specific labs who support for portfolios after graduation. I am confident that i will get my registration done within 3-6 months depending on the lab. Finding a trainee job without registration is next to impossible. I can only apply for MLA/AP, and will see if their lab can support me.
Go to interviews and ask them outright if they'll support your training. 3 months is very unlikely unless you've started already. Many labs do train inhouse
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Go to interviews and ask them outright if they'll support your training. 3 months is very unlikely unless you've started already. Many labs do train inhouse
Thank you. I will definitely ask for it at the interviews. I have not started applying for jobs yet. Recently I came to know that my lab doesn't support anyone.

I have been doing my portfolio using the reference copy. I have almost completed the section 1. But to cover section 2, I need lab support and working with analysers etc. I know I will have to re-do most of it when i start officially but it will help me a lot.
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Thank you. I will definitely ask for it at the interviews. I have not started applying for jobs yet. Recently I came to know that my lab doesn't support anyone.

I have been doing my portfolio using the reference copy. I have almost completed the section 1. But to cover section 2, I need lab support and working with analysers etc. I know I will have to re-do most of it when i start officially but it will help me a lot.
You do run the risk of them turning around and saying "No we want an MLA, we don't want an MLA for 6 months and then to have to re-recruit".

Make it very clear you're committed to the post and want to use the post to also build experience over the next few years. They'll be reluctant to hire somebody who simply wants to use them to do their portfolio. They want something in return. Bring it into the conversation by saying "I have unofficially started my registration portfolio, is that something that support could be offered with". Bare in mind that since you have NHS laboratory experience you are eligible for Band 3 and Band 4 AP roles.
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You do run the risk of them turning around and saying "No we want an MLA, we don't want an MLA for 6 months and then to have to re-recruit".

Make it very clear you're committed to the post and want to use the post to also build experience over the next few years. They'll be reluctant to hire somebody who simply wants to use them to do their portfolio. They want something in return. Bring it into the conversation by saying "I have unofficially started my registration portfolio, is that something that support could be offered with". Bare in mind that since you have NHS laboratory experience you are eligible for Band 3 and Band 4 AP roles.
That I understand. I know I will have to work at the new job for atleast 6 months before requesting them to support me and even during my portfolio my job title will remain as an MLA so i will have to work there for long term anyway. But I will only politely ask at the end of the interview if they can support me. I am only looking for job adverts that specify the labs are CPA/UKAS Accredited.
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That I understand. I know I will have to work at the new job for atleast 6 months before requesting them to support me and even during my portfolio my job title will remain as an MLA so i will have to work there for long term anyway. But I will only politely ask at the end of the interview if they can support me. I am only looking for job adverts that specify the labs are CPA/UKAS Accredited.
All NHS labs are UKAS accredited. The deadline to switch from CPA was March
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I see what you're saying. I wasn't saying that STP = BMS, but its another route into HCS that is a bit more accessible (Still ridiculous competition though).

I've personally found that the positions were just simply not there to become a biomedical scientist even with a good accredited degree. The training opportunities are just not there unless you can live with your parents and work for free. So many people I know from uni tried in vain to be trained while working at band 2s and 3s but were just shafted each time. Would love to hear your thoughts on that.
I took the PTP and finished the degree on the Friday and started work as a Band 5 on the Monday. It's there for people in the right route but universities neglect to advise as such.
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I'm pretty sure that it was not a thing when I did my degree. I guess they just swept the rest of us under the rug when that happened.
What year did you begin your degree?
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I have just checked my emails. I have received an interview offer for the placement. Do you think I should take this opportunity/ quit the current MLA job?? My aim is to get registered asap but is it a sensible move?
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I have just checked my emails. I have received an interview offer for the placement. Do you think I should take this opportunity/ quit the current MLA job?? My aim is to get registered asap but is it a sensible move?
If you're able to financially support yourself without the MLA job then yes it's a no brainer. Obviously finances are key to the decision depending on your circumstances.
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Hi I am on the same suitation as you, now I’m working as a band 2 and its hard to even progress into band 3 to do my portfolio, but can I ask you from which hospital you got the offer from please.
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@R.ahmed2401 - Sorry for the late response. are you still looking for a placement?
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No problem, yes i’m still looking for a placement and i’m still working as band 2.
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@R.ahmed2401 - Sorry for the late response. are you still looking for a placement?
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dgr8888 please update us on your current situation?

I am going through exactly the same thing you posted and I would really appreciate any advice/guidance/tips
I have an IBMS accredited Biomedical Science degree.

I don't mind volunteering if it means getting to do my IBMS registration portfolio. I just don't know which NHS/private lab would let me do that.
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@Reel008, check your inbox.
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Hello, i’m also looking for a placement to do my portfolio. Do you have any advice?
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Hello, i’m also looking for a placement to do my portfolio. Do you have any advice?
You need to be less vague. Advice on what in particular? We know nothing about your situation.
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