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We have seen before when TPTB wanted leaders removed they had their way, Saddam and Ghaddafi being the obvious examples.

Now, the target is Assad. They will do anything to remove him from power and Trump winning seems to have done little to stop their plans. War hawk neo-cons like Bolton are getting into position in a repeat that seems like pre Iraq war.

The only difference now is Assad will be protected by Russia at all costs. Direct confrontation would seem to be unlikely, but as the retoric is heating up we are about to witness the World on the brink of war, a tension worse than we have ever seen during the cold war.. and with a finale that would mean the end of Humanity.
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We have seen before when TPTB wanted leaders removed they had their way, Saddam and Ghaddafi being the obvious examples.

Now, the target is Assad. They will do anything to remove him from power and Trump winning seems to have done little to stop their plans. War hawk neo-cons like Bolton are getting into position in a repeat that seems like pre Iraq war.

The only difference now is Assad will be protected by Russia at all costs. Direct confrontation would seem to be unlikely, but as the retoric is heating up we are about to witness the World on the brink of war, a tension worse than we have ever seen during the cold war.. and with a finale that would mean the end of Humanity.
In your hysterical head maybe.

Is not interested in another conflict that involves troops on the ground. Too expensive and no unified opposition. If it really wanted him out then it would have done so long before the Russians got involved.

If they really wanted him out as badly as you say then why didnt they just destroy the Syrian ground forces?
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well this was inevitable once people started messing around with atoms. it will end in tears.

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If they really wanted him out as badly as you say then why didnt they just destroy the Syrian ground forces?
Russia has had interests in Syria for decades, with long standing military presence.

Your ignorance on the matter is telling, then again you probably just gobble up Western media propaganda?
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Russia has had interests in Syria for decades, with long standing military presence.

Your ignorance on the matter is telling, then again you probably just gobble up Western media propaganda?
in the West the only way we get to ingest chlorine is from our chickens. :emo:
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Russia has had interests in Syria for decades, with long standing military presence.

Your ignorance on the matter is telling, then again you probably just gobble up Western media propaganda?
Then again you just gobble up Russian media propaganda.
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No it's not.
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Russia has had interests in Syria for decades, with long standing military presence.

Your ignorance on the matter is telling, then again you probably just gobble up Western media propaganda?
Whilst it might have been an ally, then actual Russian intervention has only been present in Syria since September 2015.
You still failed to answer the points that if the US really wanted him dead as you say then why didnt they attack way before or even when the civil war started.
If they wanted regime change as badly as you say then why dint they do it and at least destroy his forces? they didnt because they arent interested enough. Syria has little strategic value, even the Russians are pulling ut.
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Whilst it might have been an ally, then actual Russian intervention has only been present in Syria since September 2015.
You still failed to answer the points that if the US really wanted him dead as you say then why didnt they attack way before or even when the civil war started.
Until 2011 it was very hard to press for war, when Syria was stable and Russia was an ally..

It has been a slow process, the civil war (CIA funded and undoubtedly supported by the West) was just the beginning to create the pretext of a Western intervention.
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Until 2011 it was very hard to press for war, when Syria was stable and Russia was an ally..

It has been a slow process, the civil war (CIA funded and undoubtedly supported by the West) was just the beginning to create the pretext of a Western intervention.
You avoid the question yet again.

"They will do anything to remove him from power"

Clearly a load of rubbish as they have no intention of invading or militarily destroying his forces otherwise they would have done so already and could have done so before the Russians intervened. What is there to gain for the USA? Who in their right minds would want Syria? They might not like him, but he was never important enough to go to war over for either Russia or the USA.

Btw your pretence that we are on the brink of WW3 is laughable. Syria doesnt matter enough to either of them.
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No it's not.
North Korea says otherwise. Were you living under a rock whilst they were playing a game of 'ICBM Russian roulette' with Japan?
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North Korea says otherwise. Were you living under a rock whilst they were playing a game of 'ICBM Russian roulette' with Japan?
They have neither the capacity nor the desire to begin a world war. Indeed, their last war wasn't a world war either, despite a million troops marching in from China.

They were not using ICBMs against Japan. The Japanese home islands are but a couple of hundred miles away. The few missiles that did stray over Japanese territory did so at an altitude of hundreds of kilometres. Japan would have had no idea they were there.

If you're going to try and add to this steaming pile of horseshit masquerading as a serious discussion, at least bring facts.
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(Original post by Reiji)
We have seen before when TPTB wanted leaders removed they had their way, Saddam and Ghaddafi being the obvious examples.

Now, the target is Assad. They will do anything to remove him from power and Trump winning seems to have done little to stop their plans. War hawk neo-cons like Bolton are getting into position in a repeat that seems like pre Iraq war.

The only difference now is Assad will be protected by Russia at all costs. Direct confrontation would seem to be unlikely, but as the retoric is heating up we are about to witness the World on the brink of war, a tension worse than we have ever seen during the cold war.. and with a finale that would mean the end of Humanity.
While it's entirely possible that things could go south and escalate significantly, WW3 did not begin in Vietnam and Korea and it won't begin if people start shooting at each other in Syria.

As much as i dislike Putin, he does not want nuclear war any more than we and hence short of moving into the Motherland, we won't be in WW3.
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They have neither the capacity nor the desire to begin a world war. Indeed, their last war wasn't a world war either.

They were not using ICBMs against Japan. The Japanese home islands are but a couple of hundred miles away. The few missiles that did stray over Japanese territory did so at an altitude of hundreds of kilometres. Japan would have had no idea they were there.

If you're going to try and add to this steaming pile of horseshit masquerading as a serious discussion, at least bring facts.
At what point did I say they were actually using them against Japan? Nowhere. They were testing ICBMs with a view to being able to reach America with them.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...each-new-york/
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At what point did I say they were actually using them against Japan? Nowhere. They were testing ICBMs with a view to being able to reach America with them.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...each-new-york/
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North Korea ... were playing a game... with Japan?
With. Not over. "With Japan" implies Japan were a part of it.

Which simply isn't the case.


The missile tests were nothing more than a bargaining chip to get SK and US to the negotiating table, and to get more aid from China. And so far, that's exactly what's happened, so they've worked. There will be no war. Certainly no world war.


If world war had broken out every time someone on here suggested it was about to, we'd be on WW7463 by now, at least.
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You avoid the question yet again.

"They will do anything to remove him from power"

Clearly a load of rubbish as they have no intention of invading or militarily destroying his forces otherwise they would have done so already and could have done so before the Russians intervened. What is there to gain for the USA? Who in their right minds would want Syria? They might not like him, but he was never important enough to go to war over for either Russia or the USA.

Btw your pretence that we are on the brink of WW3 is laughable. Syria doesnt matter enough to either of them.
If you have time, this video explains it well

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in the West the only way we get to ingest chlorine is from our chickens. :emo:
Don't forget the swimming pools! Oh wont people please think of the swimming pools?!
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If you have time, this video explains it well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arPeK3UqWuk
It’s more likely that it was Isis who used the chemical weapons to me.

It makes little sense for the government to use them when they have liberated the vast majority of the town already, with all the backlash that comes with it.

Isis wants the Americans in the war.

Having said all that I don’t go along with your WW3 premise at all
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With. Not over. "With Japan" implies Japan were a part of it.

Which simply isn't the case.
They were certainly part of it in the sense that they were in danger of being collateral damage. That's what I was trying to get across with my use of the phrase 'Russian roulette'. I know they weren't the actual target.
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They were certainly part of it in the sense that they were in danger of being collateral damage. That's what I was trying to get across with my use of the phrase 'Russian roulette'. I know they weren't the actual target.
Don't get out of your piss poor use of English by blathering. If you said Manchester city were playing with Manchester united, it's quite clear what the implication is.
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