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Is it wrong?

I'm 19 years old and I help kids and teens out by tutoring them. Recently I've been volunteering to help this college girl out with her A level Maths and gradually it grew. I've had teenage students of mine hit on me before and I stopped them before it escalated and made it clear that I'm their tutor not their boyfriend. They normally tell their parents that I'm a bad teacher and I get fired, but oh well. Recently there is this college girl who I have volunteered to help out, I don't get any monetary value from this service and she is 16. She likes me and normally I don't reciprocate these feelings but I fell for her too. I've looked online and the age for consent for sexual relations is 16 so there is no law stopping myself from associating myself with her but is it morally wrong to go down this path? I like her and willing to wait for her but is the age gap too big or too soon? I have a friend whose girlfriend is 2 years younger than him but that's the most it has ever been. Am i pushing it?
You can hit on her sure but it'll probably be best to stop tutoring when you do that. Could be awkward mate.
Original post by Anonymous
I'm 19 years old and I help kids and teens out by tutoring them. Recently I've been volunteering to help this college girl out with her A level Maths and gradually it grew.


I realise it's a bit off-topic, but from a purely academic perspective do you think it's wise to offer tuition for an exam you've only recently passed yourself? I've heard that a good rule of thumb is to only tutor up to an education "stage" one step lower than the one you've completed - so in your case that would take you up to GCSE. Unless of course you did absolutely brilliantly at the A level and are totally sure you understand 100% of the syllabus - because if there's even one topic within it that you haven't thoroughly mastered, sooner or later you'll end up transmitting your own misunderstanding to students, which is embarrassing once you realise that that's what you've done.

I think I can speak with a bit of experience here, as a maths tutor of some years myself; a few months ago I was invited to tutor a girl of the same school year as your student, and as we began her parents explained that she'd recently had a tutor who had turned out not to know his subject well enough, so they'd mutually agreed to discontinue after three weeks. That's obviously not a helpful experience for the student at any rate, and it could have been avoided if the guy had been more self-aware about the limits of his skills.

Perhaps you feel that you've covered your back (and perhaps your conscience) by offering it gratis and hence on an "at your own risk" basis? However I have to wonder why you're doing that anyway - is it for the CV? Private tuition ought to be charged, even if at a nominal rate; when so many tutors in your area are charging significant rates and getting clients, for you to offer it for free sounds a bit too good to be true, and if I were a prospective client (or their parent) I'd actually be a bit suspicious....

Original post by Anonymous
I've had teenage students of mine hit on me before


Well aren't you just the handsome chad :u:

What exact form does the "hitting on" take? What do they do or say that convinces you that that's what they're doing?

Original post by Anonymous
and I stopped them before it escalated and made it clear that I'm their tutor not their boyfriend.


If you're the first to raise the subject explicitly then I admire your guts :wink: You have to be sooo sure that they weren't just play-acting, before you come out with a caution like that. Can't imagine how cringey it would be if you ever misread them and then warned them off something they were never thinking of?

Original post by Anonymous
They normally tell their parents that I'm a bad teacher and I get fired, but oh well.


That sounds totally realistic, that's just the way "women scorned" behave. But it's infinitely better than being "fired", or worse, by the parents for making unwanted advances on their precious poppet!

Original post by Anonymous
Recently there is this college girl who I have volunteered to help out, I don't get any monetary value from this service and she is 16. She likes me and normally I don't reciprocate these feelings but I fell for her too.


Either you've only just started tutoring or you've had extraordinarily bad luck in terms of the fanciability of the girls you've tutored. By the way, you've only mentioned girls - do you never tutor boys? Is this your deliberate policy? Hmmm...

Original post by Anonymous
I've looked online and the age for consent for sexual relations is 16


I'm pretty amazed that any young person in this day and age doesn't know this and needs to google for it, and doubly so that anyone could venture into tuition without arming themselves with facts as relevant as this....

Original post by Anonymous
is it morally wrong to go down this path? I like her and willing to wait for her but is the age gap too big or too soon? I have a friend whose girlfriend is 2 years younger than him but that's the most it has ever been. Am i pushing it?


The age gap is really nothing. And as you say you're prepared to wait for her, I guess we're not going into the ethics of premarital sex and all that (dozens of threads on that sort of thing already).

The precise question to ask is whether it would be wise for you two (assuming, as you've claimed, that you both like each other) to get involved romantically while tuition is ongoing. And frankly, I think the question only arises when the feeling is mutual, because if it's unrequited by either side, the tuition is likely to come to a rapid end. My personal opinion is that since you've started to help her at her maths, your priority (and hers) should be to carry this on without compromise until the exams she's working towards (Year 12 in your case, which I think will have finished by the time of my writing). Then what you do afterwards is free from worrying about failing to deliver value for money - or rather in your case, honouring your initial word to get her up to speed on the subject matter.
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Original post by Justvisited
I realise it's a bit off-topic, but from a purely academic perspective do you think it's wise to offer tuition for an exam you've only recently passed yourself? I've heard that a good rule of thumb is to only tutor up to an education "stage" one step lower than the one you've completed - so in your case that would take you up to GCSE. Unless of course you did absolutely brilliantly at the A level and are totally sure you understand 100% of the syllabus - because if there's even one topic within it that you haven't thoroughly mastered, sooner or later you'll end up transmitting your own misunderstanding to students, which is embarrassing once you realise that that's what you've done.

I think I can speak with a bit of experience here, as a maths tutor of some years myself; a few months ago I was invited to tutor a girl of the same school year as your student, and as we began her parents explained that she'd recently had a tutor who had turned out not to know his subject well enough, so they'd mutually agreed to discontinue after three weeks. That's obviously not a helpful experience for the student at any rate, and it could have been avoided if the guy had been more self-aware about the limits of his skills.

Perhaps you feel that you've covered your back (and perhaps your conscience) by offering it gratis and hence on an "at your own risk" basis? However I have to wonder why you're doing that anyway - is it for the CV? Private tuition ought to be charged, even if at a nominal rate; when so many tutors in your area are charging significant rates and getting clients, for you to offer it for free sounds a bit too good to be true, and if I were a prospective client (or their parent) I'd actually be a bit suspicious....



Well aren't you just the handsome chad :u:

What exact form does the "hitting on" take? What do they do or say that convinces you that that's what they're doing?



If you're the first to raise the subject explicitly then I admire your guts :wink: You have to be sooo sure that they weren't just play-acting, before you come out with a caution like that. Can't imagine how cringey it would be if you ever misread them and then warned them off something they were never thinking of?



That sounds totally realistic, that's just the way "women scorned" behave. But it's infinitely better than being "fired", or worse, by the parents for making unwanted advances on their precious poppet!



Either you've only just started tutoring or you've had extraordinarily back luck in terms of the fanciability of the girls you've tutored. By the way, you've only mentioned girls - do you never tutor boys? Is this your deliberate policy? Hmmm...



I'm pretty amazed that any young person in this day and age doesn't know this and needs to google for it, and doubly so that anyone could venture into tuition without arming themselves with facts as relevant as this....



The age gap is really nothing. And as you say you're prepared to wait for her, I guess we're not going into the ethics of premarital sex and all that (dozens of threads on that sort of thing already).

The precise question to ask is whether it would be wise for you two (assuming, as you've claimed, that you both like each other) to get involved romantically while tuition is ongoing. And frankly, I think the question only arises when the feeling is mutual, because if it's unrequited by either side, the tuition is likely to come to a rapid end. My personal opinion is that since you've started to help her at her maths, your priority (and hers) should be to carry this on without compromise until the exams she's working towards (Year 12 in your case, which I think will have finished by the time of my writing). Then what you do afterwards is free from worrying about failing to deliver value for money - or rather in your case, honouring your initial word to get her up to speed on the subject matter.


Daaamn, you went iiiiin my boi, but you're absolutely right tho
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Original post by Anonymous
I'm 19 years old and I help kids and teens out by tutoring them. Recently I've been volunteering to help this college girl out with her A level Maths and gradually it grew. I've had teenage students of mine hit on me before and I stopped them before it escalated and made it clear that I'm their tutor not their boyfriend. They normally tell their parents that I'm a bad teacher and I get fired, but oh well. Recently there is this college girl who I have volunteered to help out, I don't get any monetary value from this service and she is 16. She likes me and normally I don't reciprocate these feelings but I fell for her too. I've looked online and the age for consent for sexual relations is 16 so there is no law stopping myself from associating myself with her but is it morally wrong to go down this path? I like her and willing to wait for her but is the age gap too big or too soon? I have a friend whose girlfriend is 2 years younger than him but that's the most it has ever been. Am i pushing it?


Yes
Original post by Anonymous
Daaamn, you went iiiiin my boi, but you're absolutely right tho


Right about what though? I made about three gazillion points :biggrin: I can't be right on ALL of them!

(By the way, did I even say anything to identify that I'm a "boi"?)
Original post by Anonymous
I'm 19 years old and I help kids and teens out by tutoring them. Recently I've been volunteering to help this college girl out with her A level Maths and gradually it grew. I've had teenage students of mine hit on me before and I stopped them before it escalated and made it clear that I'm their tutor not their boyfriend. They normally tell their parents that I'm a bad teacher and I get fired, but oh well. Recently there is this college girl who I have volunteered to help out, I don't get any monetary value from this service and she is 16. She likes me and normally I don't reciprocate these feelings but I fell for her too. I've looked online and the age for consent for sexual relations is 16 so there is no law stopping myself from associating myself with her but is it morally wrong to go down this path? I like her and willing to wait for her but is the age gap too big or too soon? I have a friend whose girlfriend is 2 years younger than him but that's the most it has ever been. Am i pushing it?


mate im a 16 year old gil with a bf who is ur age shes old enopugh and u cant deny those feelings now go n get her
Original post by Justvisited
Right about what though? I made about three gazillion points :biggrin: I can't be right on ALL of them!

(By the way, did I even say anything to identify that I'm a "boi"?)


Yeah boi yeah
No I don’t think it’s wrong, did anything ever happen?
Original post by Anonymous
No I don’t think it’s wrong, did anything ever happen?


Why don't you think it's wrong? Some explanation/elaboration would be appropriate here.

Meanwhile, yeah, it's a pity the OP himself isn't responding - would be interesting to see his responses. It wasn't that long ago he posted, but maybe he's got exams of his own and isn't logging in like formerly?

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