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Reply 40

kashmir.noir
Got it! Pretty much atleast. I'm going to put all those points together and build a cohesive answer and post later, i'm only up because i'm currently tackling Russia 1900-1924 = )

Fun!
Not.

I have 5 days till take off!! And then only a week gap till I have another 3 hour history exam + a Literature one.

I figure to make the biggest effort now to make up for slacking and all the debauchery this year!


You'll be fine. Good luck with it all.

I really must sleep now though, but I'm always around history forums. :smile:

Reply 41

Arghhhhhh, I was just doing a practise paper, 15mins in, I suddenly started panicking. I can't get the timing right, I'm waffling too much, not really answering the question... deep breaths Dan, deep breaths...

I'm getting a tad nervous, I think I know the stuff okay, but my exam technique seems pretty crummy.

Reply 42

Dan-IW
Arghhhhhh, I was just doing a practise paper, 15mins in, I suddenly started panicking. I can't get the timing right, I'm waffling too much, not really answering the question... deep breaths Dan, deep breaths...

I'm getting a tad nervous, I think I know the stuff okay, but my exam technique seems pretty crummy.


Ditto!

Was it you, or someone else, who mentioned "PEEL"?

For each paragraph follow this:
P-Point
E-Evidence
E-Evaluate
L-Link back to the question.

Apparently this way, one stays on track, is constantly analytical and evaluative.
Its easier said than done though. I'm finding it difficult to evaluate without repeating my original point!!

Reply 43

Why did the attempts to promote German unity at Frankfurt in 1848-49 fail?

Dan's answer (I can't face doing actual work, but can lie to myself that time spent doing this is work):

One of the key reasons for the failure of the Frankfurt Parliament, in attempting to unite Germany, was the inexperience of its members. They were largely middle class intellectuals who believed in a united Germany. However, they can be thought to be 'romantic idealists' - they were inexperienced in government and so did not fully realise the urgency needed. This was highlighted by their debates on the 'Fundamental Rights of the German People'. The parliament debated this issue for several months, so much so they lost contact with what was happening on the streets - the only place where the German princes could truly be forced to make concessions. This gave the princes time to retake the initiative and clamp down on the relatively leaderless mobs. Therefore, the Frankfurt Parliament failed to unite German partly because of their idealism and inexperience.

Another key reason why the parliament failed to achieve unity was because of the lack of power the parliament had. Although they stated their constitution would overrule each states constitution, it had no civil service to implement it. Furthermore, it lacked an army and in 19th century Germany, little could be done without one.

A third failure of the parliament was the divorce between its deputies and the rioters. This was demonstrated by the Schleswig-Holstein crisis. This was when German nationalists rebelled in these Danish duchies and called for the Frankfurt Parliament to liberate them. The parliament initially supported them and asked Prussia to send troops in. However, this angered Great Britain and so Prussia was forced to withdraw and an armistice. When the parliament supported Prussia's move (it did not want to anger Prussia), radicals called for demonstrations against the parliaments decision. Prussian troops had to be called in to disperse the rioters. Therefore, the parliament had to be protected from the people it claimed to support. This divorce between the parliament and the people is another key factor for its failure - it showed it had lost its moral authority.

However, modern historians argue Frankfurt was irrelevant - it was in Berlin and Vienna that the fate of the revolution was decided. This is thought because throughout the revolution the rulers of maintained the loyalty of their armies and where able to easily 'buy off' demonstrators (e.g. by ending feudal dues). Once the majority of the demonstrators were bought off with constitutions and the like, they were able to brutally suppress the remaining few - as shown by Austrian troops killing 2,000 in Vienna.

In conclusion, the parliament's idealism lost its momentum - allowing the princes to take back the initiative and so retain their power. This was shown when Friedrich Wilhelm rejected the constitution in 1849, he did this because he no longer needed to appease the masses.




That was the panicky essay, I did it in about 20mins (a bit over the amount you should spend). What do people think? :s-smilie: Shall I phone up Notts now and say they needn't worry about my accommodation?

Reply 44

I think in addition to that, their long process of drawing up the constitution, people lost interest which is a key focal point.

They were out of touch with what the people really wanted, 80% of the Frankfurt parliament held a university degree, being intelligent as such still proved to be the differentiating factor as peasants and the wider working public could not identify with them. (This could elaborate your first point I think)

Additionally, the Frankfurt parliaments constitution if to be implemented relied on working with the Rulers of the Duchies, which was not going to happen as the rulers did not want to share their power with a liberal government, or have it limited by a central authority!

I think I would put the last sentence in a diff order though "...the parliament lost its momentum in its idealism..."

But overall, I think your essay sums it up really well! You'll get your grades for Notts sir! No need to fret!!

Reply 45

Dan-IW
Why did the attempts to promote German unity at Frankfurt in 1848-49 fail?

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That was the panicky essay, I did it in about 20mins (a bit over the amount you should spend). What do people think? :s-smilie: Shall I phone up Notts now and say they needn't worry about my accommodation?


Your structuring is good, and you sum up what you have said at the end, but try and include a little more analysis, or conjecture, rather than relying on narrative as much.

Reply 46

Thanks for the help people.

Could you give an example of what you mean by extra analysis? And by good, what are we talking? :biggrin:

One of the things I'm finding difficult is not narrating. With the whole PEEL thing, I tend to string out the first E. How do you cut that down, but provide enough detail and show enough knowledge?

Thanks again.

p.s. if anyone has a few exam questions, other than the specimen paper and the June 2007 paper, I'd really appreciate it.

Reply 47

Dan-IW
"A third failure of the parliament was the divorce between its deputies and the rioters. This was demonstrated by the Schleswig-Holstein crisis. This was when German nationalists rebelled in these Danish duchies and called for the Frankfurt Parliament to liberate them. Arguably however, the Parliament did not fail in this area - it simply had no effectual means of conveying support to the Nationalists. At the time, the Parliament was a much more symbolic feature of the limited Prussian 'democracy' when in actual fact the real decision to support the Nationalists would be the King and his ministers. The parliament initially supported them and asked Prussia to send troops in. However, this angered Great Britain and so Prussia was forced to withdraw and an armistice. When the parliament supported Prussia's move (it did not want to anger Prussia), radicals called for demonstrations against the parliaments decision. Prussian troops had to be called in to disperse the rioters. Therefore, the parliament had to be protected from the people it claimed to support. This divorce between the parliament and the people is another key factor for its failure - it showed it had lost its moral authority."


That sort of thing, i.e. posing the opposite point of view, shows you are aware of the different stancs that can be taken over a particular event, and makes your essay one of greater flexibility and acceptance of opposing views.

Good structure is presenting your point in a 'sign-post sentence' at the beginning of the paragraph. Then using your dates, statistics and events to support that point, and concluding its effect and its relevance of the point in another 'sign-post sentence', saying what the point you have just explained has done for your argument. This is largely what you have done. :smile:

Reply 48

Hey guys, i wrote this essay and would like you to help me improve it. My teacher said it is worth a high grade C.

How far were the failures of 1848-49 due to the weaknesses of the Frankfurt Parliament? (40)

The aim of the Frankfurt Parliament when it was set up in 1848 was to promote greater unity in Germany. However, Germany was not politically united in 1848 due to a variety of factors, not solely just due to the weaknesses of the Frankfurt Parliament. Amongst these factors was King Frederick’s rejection of the FP.

One of the main reasons why the Frankfurt Parliament could not exert its authority over Germany was because it spent so long deciding over the constitution. During the majority of 1848 the Parliament was preoccupied deciding the Basic Human Rights of German citizens and other insignificant issues rather than acting directly to address the real problems of 1848. Hence, the problems of starvation, rising rents and inflation due to the 1846 potato blight/crop failure were not addressed. This led to lack of support from workers in towns and also farmers in the countryside. With no support from the working class majority-the 1848 revolution failed. Thus, in effect, although lack of support from German states was a reason for the 1848-49 failures, their lack of support stemmed from the weaknesses of the FP itself.

If the FP had dealt with the economic problems of 1848 well then perhaps they could have gained more support from citizens of the German states and from the leaders of the German states too, thus leading to a more united Germany under the rule of the FP. However, the FP found it difficult to deal with the economic problems and social unrest because they were weak and so could not raise taxes to resolve the issues. Also, with no funding, they could not make up an army to enforce the laws passed, thus leading to less centralised power. Hence, this issue of lack of funding and weakness of the FP led to the failure of being able to unite Germany in 1848.

These short-term factors of the weaknesses of the FP itself and also of the lack of support of the FP itself by members of the German states were also contributed to by other conditional factors that led to the failures in 1848-49.

The underlying issue of why the FP could not simply unite Germany in 1848-49 was due to the rivalry between Austria and Prussia for dominance in Germany. Furthermore, the revival of the Austrian King Franz Josef and also of the Prussian King Frederick William IV in 1848 meant that the unity of Germany by the FP would be virtually impossible because members of each state were now politically divided. Also, the two major powers posed a threat to the work of the FP.

In conclusion, although the Frankfurt Parliament was a main factor as to why the failures of 1848-49 occurred as they spent most of 1848 debating over the constitution and whether Germany should be a Grossdeutschland (including Austria in Prussia) or Kleindeutschland (excluding Austria from Prussia). Hence, the Parliament missed their opportunity to unite Germany at this stage. Then, with the revival of Austria and Prussia as the two great powers of Germany in 1848 and the returning of each of their Kings, FP had no hope left of politically uniting Prussia and Austria. Furthermore, King Frederick William IV refused to accept the crown of the FP, hence vanishing all hopes of uniting Germany. If he had accepted the crown of the FP then Germany would have been united under Prussian rule.

Overall, although the weaknesses of the FP were a major factor in contributing to the failures of the 1848-49 revolutions, other reasons were to blame. For example, the refusal of King Frederick William 4 to accept the crown led to further disunity of Germany. Also the revival of Austria and Prussia strengthened the leading states, hence leading to the further disunity of Germany.

Reply 49

*Princess*
Hey guys, i wrote this essay and would like you to help me improve it. My teacher said it is worth a high grade C.

How far were the failures of 1848-49 due to the weaknesses of the Frankfurt Parliament? (40)

The aim of the Frankfurt Parliament when it was set up in 1848 was to promote greater unity in Germany. However, Germany was not politically united in 1848 due to a variety of factors, not solely just due to the weaknesses of the Frankfurt Parliament. Amongst these factors was King Frederick’s rejection of the FP.

One of the main reasons why the Frankfurt Parliament could not exert its authority over Germany was because it spent so long deciding over the constitution. During the majority of 1848 the Parliament was preoccupied deciding the Basic Human Rights of German citizens and other insignificant issues rather than acting directly to address the real problems of 1848. Hence, the problems of starvation, rising rents and inflation due to the 1846 potato blight/crop failure were not addressed. This led to lack of support from workers in towns and also farmers in the countryside. With no support from the working class majority-the 1848 revolution failed. Thus, in effect, although lack of support from German states was a reason for the 1848-49 failures, their lack of support stemmed from the weaknesses of the FP itself.

If the FP had dealt with the economic problems of 1848 well then perhaps they could have gained more support from citizens of the German states and from the leaders of the German states too, thus leading to a more united Germany under the rule of the FP. However, the FP found it difficult to deal with the economic problems and social unrest because they were weak and so could not raise taxes to resolve the issues. Also, with no funding, they could not make up an army to enforce the laws passed, thus leading to less centralised power. Hence, this issue of lack of funding and weakness of the FP led to the failure of being able to unite Germany in 1848.

These short-term factors of the weaknesses of the FP itself and also of the lack of support of the FP itself by members of the German states were also contributed to by other conditional factors that led to the failures in 1848-49.

The underlying issue of why the FP could not simply unite Germany in 1848-49 was due to the rivalry between Austria and Prussia for dominance in Germany. Furthermore, the revival of the Austrian King Franz Josef and also of the Prussian King Frederick William IV in 1848 meant that the unity of Germany by the FP would be virtually impossible because members of each state were now politically divided. Also, the two major powers posed a threat to the work of the FP.

In conclusion, although the Frankfurt Parliament was a main factor as to why the failures of 1848-49 occurred as they spent most of 1848 debating over the constitution and whether Germany should be a Grossdeutschland (including Austria in Prussia) or Kleindeutschland (excluding Austria from Prussia). Hence, the Parliament missed their opportunity to unite Germany at this stage. Then, with the revival of Austria and Prussia as the two great powers of Germany in 1848 and the returning of each of their Kings, FP had no hope left of politically uniting Prussia and Austria. Furthermore, King Frederick William IV refused to accept the crown of the FP, hence vanishing all hopes of uniting Germany. If he had accepted the crown of the FP then Germany would have been united under Prussian rule.

Overall, although the weaknesses of the FP were a major factor in contributing to the failures of the 1848-49 revolutions, other reasons were to blame. For example, the refusal of King Frederick William 4 to accept the crown led to further disunity of Germany. Also the revival of Austria and Prussia strengthened the leading states, hence leading to the further disunity of Germany.



I'm by no means perfect at History, however, you've written a good essay, detailing why it failed, however, you've not really mentioned other factors that would contribute to why there was a period of failure in that time. I would have thought it would be a good idea to mention the 1848 revoloutions, the causes and failures of that and perhaps the strength of Austria and Prussia and why. This is my opinion, so I could be completely wrong!

Reply 50

Less than 24 hours to go! :biggrin:

How is everyone feeling?

I'd like 'Why was Bismarck appointed in 1862? (20)' and 'How important was factor X in Prussia leading Germany to unification in 1871? (40)'. That'd be a pretty perfect question for me.

Reply 51

Dan-IW
Less than 24 hours to go! :biggrin:

How is everyone feeling?

I'd like 'Why was Bismarck appointed in 1862? (20)' and 'How important was factor X in Prussia leading Germany to unification in 1871? (40)'. That'd be a pretty perfect question for me.


Im so scared
I still cant write essays under timed conditions and have to keep referring back to my notes eeeek
Not good seeing as by this point in Jan i was feeling quite confident on Mussolini and still came out with a D!

Reply 52

I have a new q
How did economic development favour Prussian rather than Austrian influence over Germnay in the years to 1862?

Im not entirely sure about what to write- all I can think of is the Zollverein favoured Prussias dominance whilst simultaneously decreasing Austria's dominance>>>> eeek

Reply 53

^ I've been looking at that question too. I'm not sure what to put other than the Zollverein. :s-smilie:

Lets hope it doesn't come up :biggrin:

Reply 54

^^^ Remember Prussia territories had coal and iron and fuels that they could make plenty of money off. This led to railways being built which gave Prussia significant advantage because of communication and transporting troops.

Reply 55

Dan-IW
^ I've been looking at that question too. I'm not sure what to put other than the Zollverein. :s-smilie:

Lets hope it doesn't come up :biggrin:


juicylucy :)
^^^ Remember Prussia territories had coal and iron and fuels that they could make plenty of money off. This led to railways being built which gave Prussia significant advantage because of communication and transporting troops.



Okay, Princess PM-ed me about this, so i post this- thought it would help!


Okay what I can think of to put in, counter your point about Zollverein, and say historians put too much significance to it, there was also the development of the railways. Bringing Germans closer together, encouraging worker migration, and more economic trade within the states because it broke down barriers.

Then there was a policy I cannot remember what, that encouraged farmers back to rural areas and away from the cities (because peasants moved away to towns to find better jobs), in the form of special low interest loans, I think 600,000 took this up. Oh then feudal dues were abolished, I can't remember, i'm revising road to ww1 right now so my heads not on right.

Oh, and in Prussia there was loads of coal, iron & chemical reserves.
OHHH **** this is all comming back to me.

Foreign trade doubled after 1848!!
Then you have that one guy uhm, something something Krupp was a great iron and steel magnate, and he played a big role in arms development. Which helped militarily too.

I think also, prussia had a better education system at all levels, from primary to university. Remember how the Frankfurt parliament had like 80% university graduates, and they were all well connected middle-class men. It shows the effect and significance.
Germany also had the highest literacy rate in europe at the time. = ) People more educated meant they were more likely to work, more likely to work, meant production/services would increase, more income = more spending etc.

I'm so glad I did economics.

Hope this helps.


Hey can one of you guys mail me the questions you get after your exam? I do CIE but your questions seem to be of a very similar structure. Perhaps they'll have similar themes come up!! And my exams on wednesday so i'll have time to revise at least!

Reply 56

Bloody hell, the books/handouts I have don't have any of this stuff :s-smilie:

I keep going through periods of confidence, but then I'll look at a question I don't like the look of, or read a mark scheme for a previous year, where it mentions stuff I've never heard of, and I'll suddenly go into depression mode :biggrin: Arghhhhh.

I'll try to remember the questions & post them up here.

Reply 57

Dan-IW
Bloody hell, the books/handouts I have don't have any of this stuff :s-smilie:

I keep going through periods of confidence, but then I'll look at a question I don't like the look of, or read a mark scheme for a previous year, where it mentions stuff I've never heard of, and I'll suddenly go into depression mode :biggrin: Arghhhhh.

I'll try to remember the questions & post them up here.


I use Access to History, and I only got the book like literally 2 weeks ago, so everythings fresh in my memory, you've probably come across this stuff, you just dont remember!

Ask me anything if you need ANY help at all. Im all on fast forward for revision!! And for some reason, this is helping my revision too.

Reply 58

I've got the Heinemann Advanced History one, seems like a bad buy now :p: It covers 1848-1914, so unfortunately, I seem to be finding out rather late in the day, it doesn't go into enough detail in certain areas.

Oh well, who wants a good career anyway? :biggrin:

Thanks for the offer of help :smile: I think my knowledge is okay in most areas, just the economy and perhaps 1848 it is slightly lacking. One of the main problems I'm finding is the structuring of essays, but it generally, or at least hopefully, comes good in the exam room.

Reply 59

I dont think you will have a question on why was Bis appointed or the significance of economics because they were last years questions, they like to keep it varied.

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