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Greenwich vs. Queen Mary
i have a conditional offer from both (on the condition of passing my access course, virtually guaranteed) to study film studies (QMUL) or film studies with history (GRE) . However this is not as straight-forward as it sounds because i no longer want to do film studies (moment of madness that happeend to be around the time UCAS was sent off) and want to switch to something actually relevant like English as soon as possible once i am there - am I right in assuming that the better university would be more fussy about letting people switch courses once term has started?? I don't know why, I just get that feeling?
also i much preferred the campus, area and accomodation at Greenwich, although i hear you can choose to stay in intercollegiate halls instead in the west end if you go to Queen Mary (and another thing im asking is is that better?).
what should do I do? and would the quality of degree (in terms of respect and recognition etc) really vary that much according to which one i went too???
any help much appreciated please.
also i much preferred the campus, area and accomodation at Greenwich, although i hear you can choose to stay in intercollegiate halls instead in the west end if you go to Queen Mary (and another thing im asking is is that better?).
what should do I do? and would the quality of degree (in terms of respect and recognition etc) really vary that much according to which one i went too???
any help much appreciated please.
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is that based on anything constructive or just a generic 'if i look down at an ex-poly people will assume im intelligent' type comment
I believe there is no harm asking. They might reconsider your application for English. Queen Mary is a far more reputable university than Greenwich. And yes UoL students can stay in intercollegiate halls if you're willing to commute. Mile End is quite dodgy. But that is a personal preference issue. Some people do not think it is that bad. And since Queen Mary is a campus university, you have the choice of not wandering off campus into the dodgy area. Though that might prove a little difficult.
I say just email the separate admissions departments for both universities and see whether they are willing. No harm done. They can't retract the offer given. The worst that can happen is that say no. Best of luck.
I say just email the separate admissions departments for both universities and see whether they are willing. No harm done. They can't retract the offer given. The worst that can happen is that say no. Best of luck.
de.novo
I say just email the separate admissions departments for both universities and see whether they are willing. No harm done. They can't retract the offer given. The worst that can happen is that say no. Best of luck.
I say just email the separate admissions departments for both universities and see whether they are willing. No harm done. They can't retract the offer given. The worst that can happen is that say no. Best of luck.
are you 100% sure on that? I suppose that was the crucial bit of info i needed, thanks.
how would one state their case in such an email? effectively write a whole new personal statement, in a contracted form? or just offer to come in to be interviewed in the first instance, without really going into why you would be more suited to the other course etc(i fear if i start on that i will end up rambling and emails are meant to be concise?)
do you think it is possible to speak to admissions staff in person, such as on open days etc. ?
do you think it is possible to speak to admissions staff in person, such as on open days etc. ?
You did apply through UCAS yes? Or at least receive a formal letter of acceptance? Then they can't retract the offer as it is solidified as official.
Just explain the situation that your interests lie in English and if they are willing to reconsider your application. You might want to ask the formal procedure as I am not too clear on that.
Just explain the situation that your interests lie in English and if they are willing to reconsider your application. You might want to ask the formal procedure as I am not too clear on that.
yeah i applied through UCAS
i haven't recieved a letter yet from Queen Mary as my status only changed on track to 'conditional' two days ago...
but Greenwich i think i got a letter as well, well in any case they sent me an accomodation application form and a letter of acknowledgement of reciept of my application for accom lol
i haven't recieved a letter yet from Queen Mary as my status only changed on track to 'conditional' two days ago...
but Greenwich i think i got a letter as well, well in any case they sent me an accomodation application form and a letter of acknowledgement of reciept of my application for accom lol
I wouldn't pay attention to these who look down on Greenwich and so on, it's pure snobbery. They're just stuck up students who know absolutely nothing about working in industry or what employers want even if they insist upon it.
A few months ago on the plane I met this guy who went to Greenwich and was on his way back to USA where he was given a well paid job in the travel industry. That';s the first time i'd heard of it so I assumed it was good, then I looked it up and find out it was ranked rather low.
Through that and talking to some other people who have graduated from low standing uni's i've realised that you can still get a good job even if you haven't been to the best uni (Unless you're in Medicine or Law and the like).
People here like to try and compensate for whatever losses they have in life by making fun of lower standing universities. It's pathetic and if the course is good there, you shouldn't rule it out.
A few months ago on the plane I met this guy who went to Greenwich and was on his way back to USA where he was given a well paid job in the travel industry. That';s the first time i'd heard of it so I assumed it was good, then I looked it up and find out it was ranked rather low.
Through that and talking to some other people who have graduated from low standing uni's i've realised that you can still get a good job even if you haven't been to the best uni (Unless you're in Medicine or Law and the like).
People here like to try and compensate for whatever losses they have in life by making fun of lower standing universities. It's pathetic and if the course is good there, you shouldn't rule it out.
JT87
I wouldn't pay attention to these who look down on Greenwich and so on, it's pure snobbery. They're just stuck up students who know absolutely nothing about working in industry or what employers want even if they insist upon it.
A few months ago on the plane I met this guy who went to Greenwich and was on his way back to USA where he was given a well paid job in the travel industry. That';s the first time i'd heard of it so I assumed it was good, then I looked it up and find out it was ranked rather low.
Through that and talking to some other people who have graduated from low standing uni's i've realised that you can still get a good job even if you haven't been to the best uni (Unless you're in Medicine or Law and the like).
People here like to try and compensate for whatever losses they have in life by making fun of lower standing universities. It's pathetic and if the course is good there, you shouldn't rule it out.
A few months ago on the plane I met this guy who went to Greenwich and was on his way back to USA where he was given a well paid job in the travel industry. That';s the first time i'd heard of it so I assumed it was good, then I looked it up and find out it was ranked rather low.
Through that and talking to some other people who have graduated from low standing uni's i've realised that you can still get a good job even if you haven't been to the best uni (Unless you're in Medicine or Law and the like).
People here like to try and compensate for whatever losses they have in life by making fun of lower standing universities. It's pathetic and if the course is good there, you shouldn't rule it out.
You certainly are deluded. Why would a company hire a greenwich student who on average has 200 points over someone from a decent uni with 400+. Please don't tell me Greenwich students have a better personaltiy and are more sociable.
v2006
You certainly are deluded. Why would a company hire a greenwich student who on average has 200 points over someone from a decent uni with 400+. Please don't tell me Greenwich students have a better personaltiy and are more sociable.
Who's saying that? If it makes you feel better by calling people deluded, then i'm happy that you're compensating for your low confidence in your own ability, have fun with that and roll as many eyes as you want, it's just shows weakness.
Every job isnt filled by some applicant whos gonna come from a good university. Once you get a wealth of experience and time has passed, it ain't going to matter because they'll be looking at your in job experience, I know this because i've met someone like i've said who's had a good job, whereas you're sitting on your armchair using some generic stuck up argument.
You're not a graduate from a university like Greenwich so who are you to say what opportunities they have? I've actually met a graduate and know that he has a good job in a foreign country and has done something with themselves.
That's evidence of a success story from Greenwich, so how you can look past that is beyond me.
Also what makes you think that the only things that students do in Greenwich are socialise and so on? A lot of people there study hard for their work, people over there may not be Oxford standard but they work had for what they have. I have met some wise people from institutions such as these so don't you dare cheapen their name you snob, you're a stereotype and give a bad name to non-snobbish students at highly regarded institutions.
I had Kingston as my firm and QMUL as my insurance for 2006 entry and took Kingston because the course content was more suited towards what I wanted to do and the department was highly regarded and had good leacturers where as the course in QMUL looked shabby and half done.
v2006
We might have a different view of a "good job". You certainly won't find many Greenwich graduates in investment banking, consulting and big blue chips because of the entry ucas point system (normally ABB/AAB+ in traditional subjects, not media studies etc).
Ah I see, in that case I completely agree. If you want to be an Investment Banker, employers are specifically looking for someone from a top ranked uni, this would be the case if you wanted to be a doctor aswell.
But if you were looking into these professions you'd already be prepared for this, or at least you should be.
Media Studies would be an extreme. There are plenty of fine degrees at lesser recognised institutions
Then again, my definition of a good job isn't confined to being an investment banker or a doctor.
I want to do a access course but i am 18 years old can i still do it some people say u have to be an International student from abroad i stared school when i was in year 2 in england plus i got a dutch passport .
PS do u get any student loans or grants
can some one please help me out pleasse
PS do u get any student loans or grants
can some one please help me out pleasse
JT87
Ah I see, in that case I completely agree. If you want to be an Investment Banker, employers are specifically looking for someone from a top ranked uni, this would be the case if you wanted to be a doctor aswell.
I can tell you're not a medic. May be private practice discriminate on grounds of university attended to for potential employees but in the NHS it's blind-folded. Meaning they don't give a toss if you graduated from Oxford, Imperial, Liverpool or Plymouth (it's medical school has a different name, yes I know).
Theres not really much debate between a University of London degree and a University of Greenwich degree, plus people that say Mile End is dodgy really need to get out and experience life outside of their suburban middle class households. When I visited it, it was perfectly fine, a little rough around the edges but it's no Croxteth or Northern Glasgow or even any of the numerous regions of Southern London which are big ********** such as Peckham. Plus 36 >>>> 106, thats a vast difference in university ranking. QMUL is a solid 1994 group uni, whereas Greenwich is erm...Greenwich.
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