unfair tution fees 4 international students

do u thnk its fair 4 non eu students to pay £7000-11000 4 tution fees in uk

universities?while E.U and uk students pay what £1500.

and have access 2 student loans

Reply 1

hester

1

loud mouth

do u thnk its fair 4 non eu students to pay £7000-11000 4 tution fees in uk

universities?while E.U and uk students pay what £1500.

and have access 2 student loans

we'd have to pay the same to go abroad ourselves, so no, its not unfair.

Reply 2

Dr. Blazed

16

No, it's not unfair, because we pay the extra through taxes.

Reply 3

bubblegumz

u sure are right loud mouth
im applying for dentistry this year and im an international student. i feel like im ruining my parents

Reply 4

Lestat

bubblegumz

u sure are right loud mouth
im applying for dentistry this year and im an international student. i feel like im ruining my parents

So true... :frown:

although mt parents are very supportive and they would do anything i ask them to, but i feel guilty that how i am gonna invest all their savings on myself.... its actually sad.

i have a long way to go..... will do dentsitry..... :frown:

first will have to do GCSE there, then A-Levels, then University.
means will ruin almost 50-60 % of their savings. :frown:

thats why i kept asking for cheap schools that offer GCSE but no one even bothered to reply...... :frown:

i dont want my parents to do everything for me, i want to be a self-made man.

and force my parents to rest and return them the favor....... :redface:

is that too much to ask for? a not-to-expensive school that offers GCSE? is it too much? :frown:

Reply 5

SamTheMan

17

bubblegumz

u sure are right loud mouth
im applying for dentistry this year and im an international student. i feel like im ruining my parents

This might sound harsh: but no matter how much your tuition fees seem to be, the amount you cost the university is the same. So the state pays a certain amouth of "your cost" and you pay part too.
I'm sure that in your country, you would pay less because your government finances part of your studies, something they probably don't do for a UK student.
Why should the EU pay for your studies? In what way have you or your parents contributed financially towards it? Nothing's free...
I think that's one of the only good aspects of tuition fees: to make people realise that it's not because you're not paying for your studies, that they're free. Students cost a huge amount of money to the government and it's not because tuition fees are higher/lower that the price of your studies changes. It's only the percentage of your contribution towards it that changes.

we'd have to pay the same to go abroad ourselves, so no, its not unfair.

I was told by a friend who studied in Munich that in Germany, even international students have their studies financed by the German government.

Reply 6

Everdawn

13

loud mouth

do u thnk its fair 4 non eu students to pay £7000-11000 4 tution fees in uk

universities?while E.U and uk students pay what £1500.

and have access 2 student loans

Sure it's fair. Its the same here.

Reply 7

frost105

14

If you choose to go abroad and study you should have to pay more money because you havent paid anything into the system for that country.

Reply 8

SamTheMan

17

frost105

If you choose to go abroad and study you should have to pay more money because you havent paid anything into the system for that country.

Exactly. I've been told that the average student can cost £10 000 a year to the government. Since an international student hasn't contributed financially, how can he expect to get something worth £50 000 for free? Where would the money come from. If you want to pay less, you should go to Unis whose financing your parents have paid for.

Reply 9

cee1984

loud mouth

do u thnk its fair 4 non eu students to pay £7000-11000 4 tution fees in uk

universities?while E.U and uk students pay what £1500.

and have access 2 student loans

Yep. its fair. :smile:

Reply 10

sashh

loud mouth

do u thnk its fair 4 non eu students to pay £7000-11000 4 tution fees in uk

universities?while E.U and uk students pay what £1500.

and have access 2 student loans

it's fair. The uni actually charges about the same but UK students get a proportion paid by the government.

Lestat, you don't need to do GCSE and A Levels, you do your own country's equivelant high school qualifications and then apply to uni here.

Reply 11

NDGAARONDI

16

Or if you know for sure that you will study at university at a foreign country for sure you could move there so that by staying there for say 3 or 4 years. you will then be entitled to change your nationality and perhaps get a better deal on expense?

Reply 12

Kew

16

sashh

Lestat, you don't need to do GCSE and A Levels, you do your own country's equivelant high school qualifications and then apply to uni here.

Exactly. It would be rather unfair on international students if they had to do GCSEs and A-Levels in the UK beforehand, wouldn't it?

If you really WANT to do GCSEs and A-Levels beforehand (even though it's unecessary for you), then go to a good state school - then you won't have to pay anything.

:smile:

Reply 13

Camford

12

State school charges A'Level student around 3500 pounds a year. So it's not totally free.

Some of the tuition fees of home students is subsidised by international students (Greer said it on News Night quite a long time ago). So, based on that, it is unfair.

Reply 14

KerChing

10

Camford

State school charges A'Level student around 3500 pounds a year. So it's not totally free.

do you mean state school as in private school?

Reply 15

Camford

12

KerChing

do you mean state school as in private school?

State schools. Private school would charge more.

Pencil Queen

That is untrue - in *some* cases for *some* courses at *some* universities the fees charged to international students are well in excess of the cost of providing the course and the extra cash will go towards subsidising Home/EU students...but this is almost entirely confined to postgraduate 1/2 year MBA courses - and not undergraduate courses.

Some numbers here. The Computer Science BA degree I'll be doing at Camrbridge cost something like 10 grand a year. The Computer Science BSc degree from Imperial College which I turned down cost 13.5 grand a year. So. No subsidising there, is it? Plus the fees for international students are on the up year after year. No subsidising there. Good. I hope we have made that clear.

Reply 16

Drogue

19

Of course they charge international students a lot, education costs a lot. Paying £10k is little compared to what many US universities charge all students, home or abroad. And since the amounts they get from the government are set, yet they can charge what they want from international students, they will charge more. They are running out of money, and need to get it from somewhere, with international students being the only place it can do. Moreover, there's competition, if somewhere charges too much, look for a cheaper place. If they all charge a lot, maybe there's a reason - it's expensive to provide.

Reply 17

psychic_satori

1

loud mouth

do u thnk its fair 4 non eu students to pay £7000-11000 4 tution fees in uk

universities?while E.U and uk students pay what £1500.

and have access 2 student loans

Man, I should go to the UK! My school in the US is way more expensive than that.

Reply 18

Kew

16

Camford

State school charges A'Level student around 3500 pounds a year. So it's not totally free.

You're getting mixed up. State schools - free
Private/Public schools (same thing) - charge fees

Reply 19

Camford

12

Drogue

Of course they charge international students a lot, education costs a lot. Paying £10k is little compared to what many US universities charge all students, home or abroad. And since the amounts they get from the government are set, yet they can charge what they want from international students, they will charge more. They are running out of money, and need to get it from somewhere, with international students being the only place it can do. Moreover, there's competition, if somewhere charges too much, look for a cheaper place. If they all charge a lot, maybe there's a reason - it's expensive to provide.

However, in the US, there are more optunities in getting financial help. For instance, that girl who got 5 A's but was rejected by Oxford got a full scholarship from Harvard. This means she doesn't have to pay a penny toward her tuition fee, plus, the university pays for her books, food, accommodation and spending money. It is very rare that you get anything like that in the UK. Cambridge has a overseas trust, which overseas student can apply for financial help. But, because Cambridge is not as rich as Harvard, it can't afford to give out full scholarships.

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