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EU dictatorship requires that Brits WILL need visas after Brexit?

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Reply 80
Original post by Ambitious1999
I know the £6 is a very small price but it’s the millions of Brits who travel to Europe who will pay it. On Average 13 million Brits go to Spain each year that means the EU will get £78 million of our money which is disgusting. When you include other places in the EU that Brits visa that could add up to £500 million of our money going to the EU in visas. The EU is an unsavoury organistation and it’s wrong that we are giving them huge amounts of our money when that money should be spent here in Britain to make our country better.

As I said the idea of Brexit is to separate ourselves from this unsavoury organisation and giving them money by buying visas is not disconnecting ourselves as we voted for.


And that's for individuals to decide.

At least the UK state and so taxpayers are fronting the cost.

This is what we voted for, our freedom back.


That was known from the start though?

I meant as in it will defintely be hard for us, but not for a long run.
Reply 82
Original post by RickHendricks
That was known from the start though?

I meant as in it will defintely be hard for us, but not for a long run.


It wasn't known by most voters during the referendum.

And if by long run you mean 45 years (2064) then yes...
Reply 83
Original post by Ambitious1999


I find that morally repugnant and offensive that the EU which is despised by British people and the government is going to get such a huge amount of money.

Says who?

Why not spend £78 million helping regenerate OUR own resorts places like Blackpool, Skegness etc? They could do with that money instead of giving it to the EU.

Because those places are general **** holes compared to the European resorts and $78mn isnt going to change that.

The essence of Brexit is we are supposed to be moving away from the EU. If people pay for this visa then they are funding the EU by the back door and that’s not the Brexit we want.

Isnt the Brexit you want for island Britain to pull up the draw bridge and turn into a hermit kingdom?
Even the article says it is not a visa. It is a visa waiver and it is standard to pay a processing fee for a visa waiver. You have to pay a processing fee for a visa waiver for the USA or Australia. This is a non-story.
Original post by Ambitious1999
Just read that the EU dictatorship will demand that Brits pay £6 for a visa after Brexit and do criminal background checks.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/6146570/brits-pay-visa-travel-eu-countries-brexit/

This is just a spiteful attack for our choice to live in a democracy and leave the European dictatorship. Well we can do the same and charge EU citizens to come here. Perhaps twice as much £12?

In any case we should refuse to pay it by not travelling to the EU, because that hard earned money will go to the EU which we should not be giving money or support to as the majority of Brits are anti-EU. It’s treacherous betrayal if anyone pays £6 to travel to the EU, when we are supposed to be moving away from EU influence not going to seek it and giving them our money!

If every Brit who was going to travel to EU chose not to, then the EU would loose a lot of money and their stupid visa system would not be able to fund itself. Even better, spend that £6 here to help regenerate our British resorts. We’ve struggled to get our freedom and democracy and that’s pure reason not to give money to the EU!

Edit:
Ok £6 isn’t a lot of money but it’s the principle. We are not allied with the EU so we should not be giving them our money, 6p or £6 it’s the same! There is a principle.

If you didn't want this kind of arrangement then you probably shouldn't have voted to Leave. £6 is less than the ESTA fee to visit the USA so it's relatively good value for money. I still think it's disgusting that such a concept is being discussed between the UK and our closest friends, but Leavers should accept this with open arms as they definitely knew what they were voting for.
Original post by Napp
Says who?

Because those places are general **** holes compared to the European resorts and $78mn isnt going to change that.

Isnt the Brexit you want for island Britain to pull up the draw bridge and turn into a hermit kingdom?


No we don’t want to be a hermit kingdom but we need an end to interference and European influences if we want to be a great super power again. To be a powerful nation we need to be proud and we can only be proud if we are totally free and secure our borders.

One day I’m not saying immediately but one day we will be a global superpower far more powerful than we ever were under the EU.
Reply 87
Original post by Ambitious1999
No we don’t want to be a hermit kingdom but we need an end to interference and European influences if we want to be a great super power again. To be a powerful nation we need to be proud and we can only be proud if we are totally free and secure our borders.

One day I’m not saying immediately but one day we will be a global superpower far more powerful than we ever were under the EU.


Oh that made me chuckle. Pray tell how Britain will become a super power?:lol:
Reply 88
Original post by Ambitious1999
we can only be proud if we are totally free and secure our borders.


Well that's the good Friday agreement dead then....
Original post by Quady
Well that's the good Friday agreement dead then....


That is false, we can still have the Good Friday agreement and leave the EU. This rhetoric is full of lies.
Original post by Wired_1800
That is true, but there have been claims that the UK has tried to include those terms into negotiations. Unfortunately these have been rejected.



There is no way in which the EU could start giving one non-Schengen, non-EU-member (the UK post-Brexit) a privileged deal and then expect other countries to pay up for visa waivers.

Trump for one (but there would be plenty of others) wouldn't wear it.
Original post by nulli tertius
There is no way in which the EU could start giving one non-Schengen, non-EU-member (the UK post-Brexit) a privileged deal and then expect other countries to pay up for visa waivers.

Trump for one (but there would be plenty of others) wouldn't wear it.


The ETIAS is not a privileged deal and many non-EU member countries, 62 at the last count, have the agreement with the EU.

The issue is that the EU refused to discuss the inclusion of this in the final deal. The UK apparently even offered money or reciprocity and they were both rejected. This is not based on “we are following the rules”. This is based on an aggressive stance by the EU that seeks to punish the UK.
Reply 92
Original post by Wired_1800
The ETIAS is not a privileged deal and many non-EU member countries, 62 at the last count, have the agreement with the EU.

The issue is that the EU refused to discuss the inclusion of this in the final deal. The UK apparently even offered money or reciprocity and they were both rejected. This is not based on “we are following the rules”. This is based on an aggressive stance by the EU that seeks to punish the UK.


Its rather more likely its a simple realist stance. Why should the EU give Britain any special treatment when it is manifestly undeserving of any?


Original post by Wired_1800
That is false, we can still have the Good Friday agreement and leave the EU. This rhetoric is full of lies.

And how exactly did you come to this entertaining conclusion?
Original post by Napp
Its rather more likely its a simple realist stance. Why should the EU give Britain any special treatment when it is manifestly undeserving of any?

And how exactly did you come to this entertaining conclusion?


This is not a special treatment when you give the same allowance to 62 other countries. It is also double standard for them to suggest that we give EU citizens free movement or travel waivers, then refuse to even entertain the same idea for British citizens.

The Good Friday agreement set apart a set of rules that were agreed upon by Ireland and the UK. The idea that Brexit will suddenly kick off a war in that region is lazy thinking.
Who the hell cares? It's a few minutes out your life and costs a few pounds.

Worth it to leave this fetid club? Not even a question.
Why do people insist on engaging with this moron?
Reply 96
Original post by Wired_1800
This is not a special treatment when you give the same allowance to 62 other countries. It is also double standard for them to suggest that we give EU citizens free movement or travel waivers, then refuse to even entertain the same idea for British citizens.

And this is just bitter whining from a group who by most every measure have no right to be complaining. You voted to leave you should accept the consequences and not bleat about how its "oh so unfair".

The Good Friday agreement set apart a set of rules that were agreed upon by Ireland and the UK. The idea that Brexit will suddenly kick off a war in that region is lazy thinking.

Mmhmmm you'll excuse me if i polite ignore this opinion you've rendered for a couple of reasons;
1] I'm going to trust the voices coming from Ireland on this matter, not someone from England with their eyes scrunched shut and fingers in ears.
2] In the most delicate way possible, the English's opinions on this are completely irrelevant. If the former Irish rebels decide that Brexit has nullified the good friday agreement and they decide to take up arms again they are going to do it despite your protestations to the contrary.

Indeed, the fact you so ignore the threat of a renewed insurgency in Ireland simply because it doesnt square well with your rose tinted view on Brexit is somewhat disturbing it must be said. If someone makes a threat of this calibre and for these stated reasons it cannot simply be ignored because it is inconvenient. the Americans learned something rather similar the hard way at the beginning of the millennium, if you recall.
Reply 97
Original post by Drewski
Why do people insist on engaging with this moron?


I'm a sucker for a bad troll...
You left the club, and now you want to keep the benefits of the club. Without paying.
Reply 99
Original post by Notoriety
So when you leave a supranational order, which is quasi-national, you actually lose all the quasi-national benefits when you leave that order?

You having a ****ing bubble, mate?



What is a benefit of an unelected EU overriding your national government to place obstables in the way of tourists coming to help your economy?

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