Warwick Medicine A101 2019 Entry Watch

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Hey Guys,

I know it's pretty early, but I wanted to start a thread for people applying to Warwick's Graduate Medicine Programme so that we could all share tips and advice.

Please introduce yourself: i.e degree, work experince etc!

I'm in my final year university studying neuroscience and at the moment I'm preparing for the UKCAT and working part time as an HCA.
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Hey, I'm applying to Warwick too! I applied this yr but didnt get an interview (ukcat too low) so trying again!

I'm just finishing my biomed degree and I work as a HCA in hospitals and care homes. I've also done quite a bit of shadowing aswell but I'm aware that Warwick limit it to only 20 out of the 70 hours. I might try and find some extra stuff to do during this gap yr!

My main thing is getting a high enough UKCAT this time round and I'll be able to focus on that as soon as my exams are over!
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Hey, I'm applying to Warwick too! I applied this yr but didnt get an interview (ukcat too low) so trying again!

I'm just finishing my biomed degree and I work as a HCA in hospitals and care homes. I've also done quite a bit of shadowing aswell but I'm aware that Warwick limit it to only 20 out of the 70 hours. I might try and find some extra stuff to do during this gap yr!

My main thing is getting a high enough UKCAT this time round and I'll be able to focus on that as soon as my exams are over!
You should have plenty of work experience by the time it comes to send of the application! Good luck with your exams :bigsmile:
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You should have plenty of work experience by the time it comes to send of the application! Good luck with your exams :bigsmile:
Hopefully! Thank you and good luck for yours too if you haven’t done them yet
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I just saw this thread which I think may have popped up on the same day as mine, I've requested deletion of mine as we don't need 2.

Bdw, It's nice to finally be here rather than stalk the 2018 thread!

I'll paste my info below:
I'm 23 and a Biomed Graduate (so original) and my work experience stats are as follows:

800 hours HCA in an acute hospital
30 hours Hospice Volunteering
12 hours in a GP surgery (front of house, not shadowing a doctor)
70 hours shadowing 2 consultants in clinics/theatre in 2 different hospitals

I'm looking to get more shadowing experience in a GP setting as that's the only one I haven't explored yet.

Happy to answer any questions related to finding work experience etc!

My main goal this year is also to get a decent UKCAT score, I plan on working part time on the staff bank until September. I definitely need to work on my timing, QR and DM section of the UKCAT, does anyone have any tips?
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(Original post by xcm_m)
I just saw this thread which I think may have popped up on the same day as mine, I've requested deletion of mine as we don't need 2.

Bdw, It's nice to finally be here rather than stalk the 2018 thread!

I'll paste my info below:
I'm 23 and a Biomed Graduate (so original) and my work experience stats are as follows:

800 hours HCA in an acute hospital
30 hours Hospice Volunteering
12 hours in a GP surgery (front of house, not shadowing a doctor)
70 hours shadowing 2 consultants in clinics/theatre in 2 different hospitals

I'm looking to get more shadowing experience in a GP setting as that's the only one I haven't explored yet.

Happy to answer any questions related to finding work experience etc!

My main goal this year is also to get a decent UKCAT score, I plan on working part time on the staff bank until September. I definitely need to work on my timing, QR and DM section of the UKCAT, does anyone have any tips?
Hey fellow biomed!

That's a nice set of work experience! Have you been working since you graduated?

I've got a few more days of exams left and then I'll be able to focus on UKCAT. My biggest weakness is probably timing too but I guess its just a case of practicing under timed conditions.
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Hey fellow biomed!

That's a nice set of work experience! Have you been working since you graduated?
Hey! So yeah I’ve graduated in July and all the NHS recruitment stuff took all of last summer, I finally started working in October

And yes also agree on the timed practice, it’s definitely achieveable once you have refined your technique!
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Hello there fellow hopefulsMight as well join in. I have just turned 23, I graduated with a fist in biochemistry last summer. During my degree I worked in a lab that looked at diagnostics and treatment of peadiatric neurological disorders. After graduation I have done over 1000 hours work in a nursing home for people with severe dementia. I have secured experience shadowing both hospital physicians and GPs (for the summer). I am also probably try and secure some surgical shadowing as well. I have booked my UKCAT for the 11th of July so that if I get a medioka score I can then focus on the GAMSAT. Currently I am finding DM and VR fairly straight forward but in the QR my timing could be improved and AR is going to take a lot of practice. SJ is a bit of a wildcard for me, a bit dissapointed that Warwick have decided to include it for this year.Would be interested to hear about people's study strategy for the UKCAT
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Hi,
I'm 20, finishing my second year of Molecular and Cellular Biology.
Work experience is/will be 20+ hours GP shadowing, 30 hours as a night shift triage assessor/first aider, 50+ hours as an A&E volunteer. UKCAT also booked for the 11th July, I think the SJ inclusion is a very recent thing, at the open day i'm pretty convinced they said they don't use it, oh well another hurdle to jump. I haven't done too much UKCAT prep yet, waiting to get my last degree exam out of the way but from what I have done it's going to be AR that needs the work. My plan is mainly Medify and 1250 Q book and hope for the best.
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Hi!
I finish my Biomed degree in 3 weeks and am hoping to apply for 2019 Medicine entry although I’m struggling a bit with finding appropriate work experience.
I have voluntary hours working in care homes and have secured a job as a care assistant (home care) for the summer. Do you think that this would be useful or more applicable to try and work as a HCA in a hospital?
Also, how do you go about gaining shadowing experience? My local Hospitals aren’t accepting students looking for shadowing experience at the moment and I’m not too sure where else to try?

Thanks 😊

(Original post by xcm_m)
I just saw this thread which I think may have popped up on the same day as mine, I've requested deletion of mine as we don't need 2.

Bdw, It's nice to finally be here rather than stalk the 2018 thread!

I'll paste my info below:
I'm 23 and a Biomed Graduate (so original) and my work experience stats are as follows:

800 hours HCA in an acute hospital
30 hours Hospice Volunteering
12 hours in a GP surgery (front of house, not shadowing a doctor)
70 hours shadowing 2 consultants in clinics/theatre in 2 different hospitals

I'm looking to get more shadowing experience in a GP setting as that's the only one I haven't explored yet.

Happy to answer any questions related to finding work experience etc!

My main goal this year is also to get a decent UKCAT score, I plan on working part time on the staff bank until September. I definitely need to work on my timing, QR and DM section of the UKCAT, does anyone have any tips?
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Also, how do you go about gaining shadowing experience? My local Hospitals aren’t accepting students looking for shadowing experience at the moment and I’m not too sure where else to try?

Thanks 😊
Hey! First of all congrats on finishing your degree and finding the home care job!

Secondly, how many hours do you have for the voluntary work? What sorts of things were you doing?

The care experience will be just as useful as HCA experience, so don't worry about that. If anything, the home care job will expose you to more unique experiences that you can talk about at interview.

As for shadowing experience, exhaust all of your contacts first (if any), if not, contact consultants/GPs directly. I wrote to about 30-40 GP surgeries before getting 1 response. Only write if you can't find an email address, it's hard to follow up on letters in my experience.

Go on this website to find contact details: https://www.nhs.uk/service-search. You'll want to email the practice manager (make it very polite and professional, brief introduction of yourself, what you're hoping to gain out of it, highlight how it'll help your application immensely etc etc). Leave it a week and if there is no response then phone the surgery directly and ask to speak to the manager to follow up. If you do land this, then ask the GP if they can refer you to any local consultant friends for hospital shadowing. You really do have to talk/network to land these placements.

For hospital consultants, use a similar approach. You can visit the hospital website and find the consultants info, use their name and write a letters to the hospital. Often, the letter ends up in their secretary's hands who will respond directly. A lot of the time, consultants/doctors are more than willing to help, but the work experience departments of hospitals are fussy as hell (for whatever reason).

Also some key points: Don't be put off if you don't get a response and also remember set a good impression on your placement, get involved in conversation and ask questions. Remember to also take a diary and make notes in your break on what you've seen.

Let me know how you get on, I have a few more ideas if these don't work. Hope this helps!
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Anyone got any idea how to find ‘hands on care’ when In a full time job? I’ve volunteered for a year in a childrens mental health ward after work, but Warwick have said that doesn’t count as ‘hands on care’ - which surprised me somewhat!
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Anyone got any idea how to find ‘hands on care’ when In a full time job? I’ve volunteered for a year in a childrens mental health ward after work, but Warwick have said that doesn’t count as ‘hands on care’ - which surprised me somewhat!

Maybe working as a bank HCA in your local hospital or with an agency, so you would be able to choose shifts that fit around your other job?
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Hi all!
I am so glad i found this!
Like some others I applied last year but didn't get an interview due to UKCAT score But hopefully this year will be successful!

I will give a bit of background like some others have Last November I graduated with an MSc in Clinical Neuropsychiatry. While doing this I was lucky enough to shadow my lecturer who is a Neuropsychiatrist for a couple of weeks, which I have asked to do again soon.
I currently work as a Team Leader in a supported living house, but also have about 4 years worth of care assistant experience with dementia patients.

Booked my UKCAT for 30th August and am going to the Warwick open day in June !
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Hi, I just wanted some advice whether I have sufficient or appropriate work experience. Currently, I volunteer at a care home for people with learning disabilities. I'm also undergoing training for a hca job and completed shadowing last year (and a few years ago but I know that won't be taken into account).

EDIT: anybody have a rough idea what UKCAT score is required for interview? I'm on track for a first so not really worried about that.
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Hi, I just wanted some advice whether I have sufficient or appropriate work experience. Currently, I volunteer at a care home for people with learning disabilities. I'm also undergoing training for a hca job and completed shadowing last year (and a few years ago but I know that won't be taken into account).

EDIT: anybody have a rough idea what UKCAT score is required for interview? I'm on track for a first so not really worried about that.
Hi aallisonn,

I applied last year and we needed 70 hours of work experience, 50 of which had to be hands on. The website gives guidance on what is considered appropriate, but if you have doubts then it would be worth going to an open day and asking the admissions tutors who are all very helpful.

The UKCAT required for an interview varies depending on the score that everyone else gets and the level and classification of degree that you have. I believe that last year some people got interviews with 660ish (prob with Master's), but there were some who said they didn't with 680ish (prob with 2:1). I found Medify really useful in my prep, particularly for AR which I'd previously scored 700 on and then got 870 last year.

Good luck!
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Hi aallisonn,

I applied last year and we needed 70 hours of work experience, 50 of which had to be hands on. The website gives guidance on what is considered appropriate, but if you have doubts then it would be worth going to an open day and asking the admissions tutors who are all very helpful.

The UKCAT required for an interview varies depending on the score that everyone else gets and the level and classification of degree that you have. I believe that last year some people got interviews with 660ish (prob with Master's), but there were some who said they didn't with 680ish (prob with 2:1). I found Medify really useful in my prep, particularly for AR which I'd previously scored 700 on and then got 870 last year.

Good luck!
Hey, thanks for replying to me! May I ask, are you studying at Warwick right now?
A lot of my volunteering at the care home has been preparing meals and assisting with day-to-day task; I'm not really sure if that's really hands on? But a lot of the people at the care home have a variety of needs. Anyway, I'm heading to an open day next week, so will ask. Hopefully I'll get some answers.
Um both your scores for AR were amazing! I'm currently using medify and feel like i'm not making any progress (properly because i'm impatient).

Thanks!
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Hey guys,

I'm applying to Warwick this year too, so will be stalking this thread :h:

Bit of background:

- Graduated with a 1st class in Masters of Pharmacy in 2016 and am currently working as a clinical pharmacist at a district general hospital. Exposed daily to a variety of patients with different healthcare needs in various medical and surgical wards, and am able to oversee their care - usually long-term - alongside my ward-based clinical teams (over 800 hours).

- I usually shadow consultants intermittently during post-take ward rounds during my medical ward rotations (? hours);

- Shadowed junior doctors during their 12-hour on-call shifts within A&E and the Acute Medical Unit and (25 hours);

- Actively engaged in an outpatient clinic alongside a Parkinsons disease nurse specialist (5 hours);

- Sunday volunteer in a hospice inpatient unit (25 hours thus far).

I think I have a fair bit of experience in secondary care that I can reflect on as well as my volunteering in a hospice, all of which I can use to fill Warwick's quota. Just feel as though my insight into primary care work (GP etc) is lacking. I've tried contacting numerous GP practices to see if they have any opportunities for me to shadow, and have spoken to practice managers to ask if they can pass my details on. So hoping something positive will come from this! lol

Currently working towards a post-graduate diploma in clinical pharmacy practice and am nearing completion of my first year. Just my OSCE exams in 3 weeks and then I'll be able to focus on the UKCAT and application! Hoping to get some decent practice in, but similar to many, I struggle with timing - so that'll be my main point of improvement.
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Hi Everyone,

I'm also applying to GEM at Warwick this year, so will be following the thread and hopefully can add something useful along the way.

My background:
I have a 1st class degree in Biomed, then spent a year working as a pre-reg clinical scientist in Haematology and Transfusion in a large NHS trust, where I gained experience in both lab work and clinical work with patients (not sure if this can be counted for Warwick's quota as it was 2016-2017). I'm now on a doctoral training program in Molecular biology, but I'm missing clinical work and have thought a lot about applying over the last few years. I've just started a job as a HCA in a busy A&E ward. I also volunteer with refugees in Calais and with children in care who have learning difficulties. Again I'm not sure if these would count towards the work experience for Warwick. Need to ask at an open day. I'm hoping to get some shadowing experience with a GP soon. ~

I'm mostly focusing on UKCAT and personal statement at this point. Finding it impossible to include everything in my personal statement :/
Good luck to everyone
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Hey guys,

I'm applying to Warwick this year too, so will be stalking this thread :h:

Bit of background:

- Graduated with a 1st class in Masters of Pharmacy in 2016 and am currently working as a clinical pharmacist at a district general hospital. Exposed daily to a variety of patients with different healthcare needs in various medical and surgical wards, and am able to oversee their care - usually long-term - alongside my ward-based clinical teams (over 800 hours).

- I usually shadow consultants intermittently during post-take ward rounds during my medical ward rotations (? hours);

- Shadowed junior doctors during their 12-hour on-call shifts within A&E and the Acute Medical Unit and (25 hours);

- Actively engaged in an outpatient clinic alongside a Parkinsons disease nurse specialist (5 hours);

- Sunday volunteer in a hospice inpatient unit (25 hours thus far).

I think I have a fair bit of experience in secondary care that I can reflect on as well as my volunteering in a hospice, all of which I can use to fill Warwick's quota. Just feel as though my insight into primary care work (GP etc) is lacking. I've tried contacting numerous GP practices to see if they have any opportunities for me to shadow, and have spoken to practice managers to ask if they can pass my details on. So hoping something positive will come from this! lol

Currently working towards a post-graduate diploma in clinical pharmacy practice and am nearing completion of my first year. Just my OSCE exams in 3 weeks and then I'll be able to focus on the UKCAT and application! Hoping to get some decent practice in, but similar to many, I struggle with timing - so that'll be my main point of improvement.

Wowww,
You did so many work experience. I cannot find decent work experience. Do you have any tips to find and any places in London?
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