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I know this is late, but that's how I roll. St Andrews for History, KCL for War Studies and History. I have maybe two days. Which one?
Any tips, anecdotes about either of these unis/environments, or advice would be appreciated.

some of the things I'm stuck on:
- I'm Scottish, which means St. Andrews is free. However, it's a tiny town very close to where I already live. London has far more opportunities etc. but it's also bloody expensive and frankly it gives me fear
- I'd love to do a joint with St. A IR, but it's always super oversubscribed. KCL gives me a chance to do the similar joint honours degree I want.
- Loads of people I know are going to St. Andrews, and I have one friend's sister in London. Is this good? Is this bad?? zero idea.
- my St Andrews offer is unconditional but my KCL one is two As, including History.
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I know this is late, but that's how I roll. St Andrews for History, KCL for War Studies and History. I have maybe two days. Which one?
Any tips, anecdotes about either of these unis/environments, or advice would be appreciated.

some of the things I'm stuck on:
- I'm Scottish, which means St. Andrews is free. However, it's a tiny town very close to where I already live. London has far more opportunities etc. but it's also bloody expensive and frankly it gives me fear
- I'd love to do a joint with St. A IR, but it's always super oversubscribed. KCL gives me a chance to do the similar joint honours degree I want.
- Loads of people I know are going to St. Andrews, and I have one friend's sister in London. Is this good? Is this bad?? zero idea.
- my St Andrews offer is unconditional but my KCL one is two As, including History.
How much cash do you expect to have to live in London? Its not so great having no money. How close do you live to St A? Close enough to commute for a year or two?
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I'd choose Kings because of the benefits I've heard and its rankings..
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I'd probably take St Andrews over KCL, mostly due to the money savings but also because it's a great university and excels in the subject in question. Regarding IR, couldn't you follow your degree up with a Masters in London later on, which would compress living costs to a year? What are you hoping to do once you graduate?
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How much cash do you expect to have to live in London? Its not so great having no money. How close do you live to St A? Close enough to commute for a year or two?
I'll be living in halls for both universities. I should manage to scrape by in London but I imagine it'll still be financially difficult and a bit of a struggle
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I'd choose Kings because of the benefits I've heard and its rankings..
Can you name any benefits in particular?
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the irony is that being a student in London is a more isolating feeling than living in St Andrews.

Source: a londoner who went to st andrews and didn't apply to any London unis
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I know this is late, but that's how I roll. St Andrews for History, KCL for War Studies and History. I have maybe two days. Which one?
Any tips, anecdotes about either of these unis/environments, or advice would be appreciated.

some of the things I'm stuck on:
- I'm Scottish, which means St. Andrews is free. However, it's a tiny town very close to where I already live. London has far more opportunities etc. but it's also bloody expensive and frankly it gives me fear
- I'd love to do a joint with St. A IR, but it's always super oversubscribed. KCL gives me a chance to do the similar joint honours degree I want.
- Loads of people I know are going to St. Andrews, and I have one friend's sister in London. Is this good? Is this bad?? zero idea.
- my St Andrews offer is unconditional but my KCL one is two As, including History.
If i were you i would go to St Andrews. It's not too far from where you are already, the uni has an incredible reputation, and you won't be spending near as much money as you would going to KCL. A big thing to think about here is the atmosphere you want at university - I don't know much about either uni but i imagine St Andrews is a quieter place to live. It may be more homely and community-based. There will still be plenty for students to do though. As KCL is in London it would probably be a different atmosphere - more noisy, hectic, but more in terms of nightlife. I think it ultimately depends on where you imagine yourself to be most comfortable and happy, which is a decision you have to make.
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I'll be living in halls for both universities. I should manage to scrape by in London but I imagine it'll still be financially difficult and a bit of a struggle
I'm not convinced struggling in London is much fun. I live here - its expensive.

If it were me I'd need a great reason to avoid the student debt. Comp Sci at Imperial - sure. Oxbridge - very possibly. St A has more wow factor - bit of a hassle about the extra year but some benefits in a wider range in the first year.
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I'm not convinced struggling in London is much fun. I live here - its expensive.

If it were me I'd need a great reason to avoid the student debt. Comp Sci at Imperial - sure. Oxbridge - very possibly. St A has more wow factor - bit of a hassle about the extra year but some benefits in a wider range in the first year.
I have an opportunity to take on the entirely unique War Studies course - I'm genuinely considering that to be a great reason, but I guess I need to analyse it more. The material for both WS and History is also far more diverse than that of St. Andrews, which I like. I guess it depends how difficult it is to budget/enjoy yourself if you're a student there who isn't made of dough.
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the irony is that being a student in London is a more isolating feeling than living in St Andrews.

Source: a londoner who went to st andrews and didn't apply to any London unis
Really? How so?
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Again, couldn’t you do a Masters at KCL? Or isn’t the subject offered at that level?
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Really? How so?
Other than London being a generally less friendly place than the rest of the UK (especially Scotland), students here are extremely spread out because the only affordable areas are well out of the centre and are dotted around everywhere, which isn't great for socialising and getting together to go out etc. I imagine being a student in London feels far more like a job (commuting into uni, spending 9-5 in lectures/library, commuting home) than a uni experience should do. Imo London's benefits are not worth the lifestyle or the extortionate costs, especially when the alternative is an equally and probably more excellent university and is unconditional and debt-free.

If you do decide that KCL and the London life really is for you, just make sure you're prepared for the costs, because as far as I'm aware SAAS don't grant any extra maintenance loan for students going to study in London, unlike SFE which does.

Source: another Londoner who didn't apply to any London unis.
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Again, couldn’t you do a Masters at KCL? Or isn’t the subject offered at that level?
i'm not sure i'd be accepted
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i'm not sure i'd be accepted
Why? Universities are not generally known for being picky about who they let in for masters (with notable exceptions of course). They like the money!
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Why? Universities are not generally known for being picky about who they let in for masters (with notable exceptions of course). They like the money!
do those notable exceptions include St Andrew's / KCL?
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do those notable exceptions include St Andrew's / KCL?
I've never heard of KCL being particularly hard to get into for masters degrees although that must vary by subject. St Andrews - no idea. I could imagine it being hard its it a pretty unique environment so must appeal a lot to some people.
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