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Original post by DCDCo
I agree, and you shouldn't feel self-conscious about it, neither should you be victimised. What you may have to cope with is peoples opinions and perceptions that may stray from this idealistic view of the situation.

At the end of the day, if you are "normal", you aren't going to have any issues :smile:


Yeah I agree. The only real danger area is girls. While they may be legal, it'd certainly look like taking advantage if things were to happen under the influence of alcohol. That's just the way it is really!
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Original post by DCDCo
I agree, and you shouldn't feel self-conscious about it, neither should you be victimised. What you may have to cope with is peoples opinions and perceptions that may stray from this idealistic view of the situation.

At the end of the day, if you are "normal", you aren't going to have any issues :smile:

Yeah, hopefully. Like you say say though, peoples perceptions differ. The fact that I'm xyears older and want to socialise with them itself, may be a bit too abnormal for them.
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Original post by AndrewMarkSP
Yeah I agree. The only real danger area is girls. While they may be legal, it'd certainly look like taking advantage if things were to happen under the influence of alcohol. That's just the way it is really![/QUO Hopefully nothing backfires there. Wouldn't want it to stop me from getting together with someone attractive nonetheless.
Original post by Taz2k90
Cool. What are you going to be studying and where?


I'm going to be doing Philosophy at the University of York. How about you?
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Original post by SarahW93
I'm going to be doing Philosophy at the University of York. How about you?
Not entirely sure yet. Gotta get the qualifications first!
Original post by Taz2k90
Not entirely sure yet. Gotta get the qualifications first!


Ahh so you got conditionals? Have you got a favourite that you're hoping for?
Original post by Taz2k90
Can you you elaborate on how you'd define "creepy" please mate.


“Creepy” in this context means one thing and one thing only- whether or not you are attractive (and this need not be restricted to only physically attractive). If you are a relatively attractive 30 year old who could pass for being in your 20s, you’re not creepy- simple as.

You could be 20, but a bit awkward, a bit scruffy - maybe going bald or have a few grey hairs but most importantly *not* attractive- and bingo, you’re creepy.

Creepiness has nothing whatsoever to do with being predatory. People at uni are super predatory all the time. I knew a chap at UCL who came to London from Florida *with his wife* to do MSc. He was out every night living the life and getting with everything in sight - but he was objectively a good looking bloke with a beach bod- so it was all a laugh and a joke and he was given a pass on just about everything.

On the other hand, I know young guys - 18/19 who have been chucked out of socs (at Kings) because they were apparently creeping out the women.
Original post by Trinculo
“Creepy” in this context means one thing and one thing only- whether or not you are attractive (and this need not be restricted to only physically attractive). If you are a relatively attractive 30 year old who could pass for being in your 20s, you’re not creepy- simple as.

You could be 20, but a bit awkward, a bit scruffy - maybe going bald or have a few grey hairs but most importantly *not* attractive- and bingo, you’re creepy.

Creepiness has nothing whatsoever to do with being predatory. People at uni are super predatory all the time. I knew a chap at UCL who came to London from Florida *with his wife* to do MSc. He was out every night living the life and getting with everything in sight - but he was objectively a good looking bloke with a beach bod- so it was all a laugh and a joke and he was given a pass on just about everything.

On the other hand, I know young guys - 18/19 who have been chucked out of socs (at Kings) because they were apparently creeping out the women.


I think you're referring to charisma as opposed to attractiveness. That's why guys like the Florida guy seem to get away with being a man whore when others are deemed as sex pests. Charismatic people often aren't seen as being predatory, it's just seen as them enjoying life or living to the full.
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Original post by Trinculo
“Creepy” in this context means one thing and one thing only- whether or not you are attractive (and this need not be restricted to only physically attractive). If you are a relatively attractive 30 year old who could pass for being in your 20s, you’re not creepy- simple as.

You could be 20, but a bit awkward, a bit scruffy - maybe going bald or have a few grey hairs but most importantly *not* attractive- and bingo, you’re creepy.

Creepiness has nothing whatsoever to do with being predatory. People at uni are super predatory all the time. I knew a chap at UCL who came to London from Florida *with his wife* to do MSc. He was out every night living the life and getting with everything in sight - but he was objectively a good looking bloke with a beach bod- so it was all a laugh and a joke and he was given a pass on just about everything.

On the other hand, I know young guys - 18/19 who have been chucked out of socs (at Kings) because they were apparently creeping out the women.

The thing is I'll be 35/36 when I start Uni. I would say I'm definitely attractive, at the risk of sounding egotistical. Unfortunately while I've not yet got any grey hairs, my hairline has receded slightly. Also, my hair has thinned quite a bit (Not too bad at a certain length). I'm guessing both these things will be worse in 4-5 years time. Maybe a hair transplant and some dye will sort it out, lol.
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Original post by Trinculo
“Creepy” in this context means one thing and one thing only- whether or not you are attractive (and this need not be restricted to only physically attractive). If you are a relatively attractive 30 year old who could pass for being in your 20s, you’re not creepy- simple as.

You could be 20, but a bit awkward, a bit scruffy - maybe going bald or have a few grey hairs but most importantly *not* attractive- and bingo, you’re creepy.

Creepiness has nothing whatsoever to do with being predatory. People at uni are super predatory all the time. I knew a chap at UCL who came to London from Florida *with his wife* to do MSc. He was out every night living the life and getting with everything in sight - but he was objectively a good looking bloke with a beach bod- so it was all a laugh and a joke and he was given a pass on just about everything.

On the other hand, I know young guys - 18/19 who have been chucked out of socs (at Kings) because they were apparently creeping out the women.

How old was the guy from Florida btw?
Reply 70
Original post by SarahW93
Ahh so you got conditionals? Have you got a favourite that you're hoping for?

Nah, I've yet to even start my A-levels. Probably will do Biology, Chemistry, Geography and Maybe Law or Psychology.
Reply 71
Original post by AndrewMarkSP
I think you're referring to charisma as opposed to attractiveness. That's why guys like the Florida guy seem to get away with being a man whore when others are deemed as sex pests. Charismatic people often aren't seen as being predatory, it's just seen as them enjoying life or living to the full.


So if you're charismatic and blatantly trying it on with people 15 years younger-it wouldn't be too creepy?
Original post by Trinculo
“Creepy” in this context means one thing and one thing only- whether or not you are attractive (and this need not be restricted to only physically attractive). If you are a relatively attractive 30 year old who could pass for being in your 20s, you’re not creepy- simple as.

You could be 20, but a bit awkward, a bit scruffy - maybe going bald or have a few grey hairs but most importantly *not* attractive- and bingo, you’re creepy.

Creepiness has nothing whatsoever to do with being predatory. People at uni are super predatory all the time. I knew a chap at UCL who came to London from Florida *with his wife* to do MSc. He was out every night living the life and getting with everything in sight - but he was objectively a good looking bloke with a beach bod- so it was all a laugh and a joke and he was given a pass on just about everything.

On the other hand, I know young guys - 18/19 who have been chucked out of socs (at Kings) because they were apparently creeping out the women.


Nope sorry but creepiness and being a predator kind of go hand in hand whether you are physically attractive or not. I have had perfectly attractive guys not wanting to take no for an answer before. Are they sexual predators? Yes. Are they creepy because they won't leave me the feck alone? Yes! It doesn't matter if they have rugged good looks; a creeper is a creeper! If you try to talk to a girl and she's not very responsive, or she directly says no, it means go away. Even if you are good looking. Most of the time it's just common sense, just be respectful!
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Original post by SarahW93
Nope sorry but creepiness and being a predator kind of go hand in hand whether you are physically attractive or not. I have had perfectly attractive guys not wanting to take no for an answer before. Are they sexual predators? Yes. Are they creepy because they won't leave me the feck alone? Yes! It doesn't matter if they have rugged good looks; a creeper is a creeper! If you try to talk to a girl and she's not very responsive, or she directly says no, it means go away. Even if you are good looking. Most of the time it's just common sense, just be respectful!

That should go without saying. It's just courteous to respect someones responses both verbally and via body language. If I knew a girl wasn't interested, what's the point in just persisting? You're just making them feel uncomfortable for no reason. I'm more referring to the age difference as opposed the way I'd approach someone...
Original post by Taz2k90
So if you're charismatic and blatantly trying it on with people 15 years younger-it wouldn't be too creepy?


I'm not saying that. I'm saying that they are more likely to not be seen as a sex pest. Hopefully they usually would still be seen as such, though.
Reply 75
Original post by AndrewMarkSP
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that they are more likely to not be seen as a sex pest. Hopefully they usually would still be seen as such, though.
Do you reckon I'd be seen as creepy by trying it on with girls who are 20, me being 35 at that point.? When I say trying it on-I mean in a respectful way, and probably only if they seem attracted to me in the first place.
Reply 76
Original post by Taz2k90
Have you noticed that yourself through your own observations.


Yes.
Original post by Taz2k90
Do you reckon I'd be seen as creepy by trying it on with girls who are 20, me being 35 at that point.? When I say trying it on-I mean in a respectful way, and probably only if they seem attracted to me in the first place.


It depends on the situation. A 35 year old groping a drunk 18 year old will be seen as creepy. Because there's a question over whether consent really exists and because you are expected to be the responsible adult.
Reply 78
Original post by Taz2k90
Cool, that's reassuring.Take it you're speaking from first hand experience.


Suppose so.
Reply 79
Original post by AndrewMarkSP
It depends on the situation. A 35 year old groping a drunk 18 year old will be seen as creepy. Because there's a question over whether consent really exists and because you are expected to be the responsible adult.


Mate, I'm not gonna just randomly grope girls. The only time that will happen is when she gropes me first and is obviously consenting. I wouldn't do anything unless it was clearly consensual.

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