(Original post by Phoebee1998)
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. If you want to be an ******** then go ahead, but the University has every right to kick you.
Let's ignore for a minute the original incident this thread is about, and take this discussion a level higher:
- Do I have the freedom to harass someone online because I disagree with their point of view?
- Do I have the freedom to harass their employer, demanding them to fire the person?
- Do I have the freedom to maybe "hunt them down" and confront them in the street?
Am I allowed to do those things even if they did not commit a crime? This has been happening plenty, actually. "Freedom from consequence" is a nice pretext used by sinister people with ulterior motives it seems.
Let's ignore all the legal standards for a minute, tell me where you
draw the line. Harassing them? Targeting their family members? Maybe beating them up, you know... if they happen to be "fascists"? These things have happened
to political dissidents in countries belonging to Western-style democracies over the past decade, and most of it is coming from the far-left that seems to proudly proclaim recently "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" while in various cases by now administering mob justice to people they disagree with. Look no further than Antifa.
"Freedom from consequence" analogically also
doesn't mean freedom from even further consequence
. For example, if anyone where to try and slap me in the street because they didn't like something I said elsewhere (no matter what it is)... you can be sure they wouldn't get away with it under any scenario. Not at all.
Now... let's reapply this principle through the legal system
: if you're going to abuse the "freedom from consequence" excuse to oppress people expressing opinions, they'll retaliate eventually. You seem to forget that they can also
dish out "consequences". You can only force the lid down on the saucepan for so long before you either burn yourself, it overflows, or maybe even cracks and gets mess all over you.
With that behind me... I'll comment on the actual article. These kinds of 'jokes' repulse me. But even then, I find that invoking the power of authority to deal with people like this has been increasingly overused over the recent decade(s), and although 10 years ago I'd agree with expelling them, I've changed my mind in response to all the far-left radical crap that I think is a much bigger problem these days... as it is often expressed in the open, in public, and often quite shamelessly advocates, ahem, "consequences" of the illegal variety to be exercised on people they disagree with. And that goes undisciplined regardless. Yet these people get hammered even in the national newspaper.
It's a matter of priorities.
I believe it would have been quite sufficient to just expose these people in the local student paper, and been given a stiff warning from the university administrators. Perhaps in the worst cases, been given a compulsory 1 year leave, after which they'd be permitted to finish their course. Be certain, they would have been very unpopular for it. Rape is no longer "mainstream" or remotely popular or funny in Western culture. Yes, we do have feminists to thank for that. But we also have them to thank for increasingly overstepping certain boundaries themselves
now, who not at all infrequently still claim that we live in a "rape culture". Bullshyt. We do not.