LPC...Too hard!

Where did you graduate from? Do you really want to study advocacy on the LPC? Thanks.

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OP

I graduated from University of Central Lancashire.

We HAVE to do advocacy as part of the LPC. It's compulsary.

Anyway, I've contacted my course leader about the matter telling him that I've decided to quit the course.

Reply 3

Mazzy

I graduated from University of Central Lancashire.

I was given the impression you had to study at the elite universities to progress further. How biases become apparent.

Mazzy

We HAVE to do advocacy as part of the LPC. It's compulsary.

I don't know why this is. At the end of the day people will want a barrister for advocacy more than solicitor-advocates, no disrespect for the Law Society.

Mazzy

Anyway, I've contacted my course leader about the matter telling him that I've decided to quit the course.

Already? A bit hasty.

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jurispridence

I take it you aren't tied into a training contract then...

Question: the training contract looks like an easy contract to get out of without you being penalised beyond the costs the firm has already invested in you - yet... do you think the fact that its so hard to get one means that your participation in the firm at a later stage could be counted as specific performance?

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Mazzy

I've been studying the LPC at Manchester Met now for 2 weeks and damn is it tough or what?!

We're expected to be at uni everyday from 9 till 5 and then also go home and do more work. We have to read so much and do so much preparation...I think it's going to kill me. The migraine's have already started :frown:

We have billions of assessments throughout the year E.g Interviewing, Advocacy, Legal writing and Drafting, Legal research blah blah blah...
AND...we also have exams in december, january, march AND june!!!!!!!!!

I'm not the kind of person who can stay in a library 24/7. I do have a life ya know.

I'm weak...I can't do this shit!

I don't wanna do it anymore as I've come to the conclusion that law is not the right field for me...

Soooooooo come monday and I'm going to see my personal tutor.

Now my next step is to find myself a job.
Anyone need a cleaner?!

Try and stick with it till Decemeber - you have obviously worked hard so far in geting a law degree, don't try and fall at the last hurdle :redface:

If not - do you want to stay in the legal field? i.e. go by the ILEX route?

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ruviyoly

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I am so worried now coz u said law gets really hard, how many hours do u have to study??at uni and when u do the LPC? :confused:

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ruviyoly

I am so worried now coz u said law gets really hard, how many hours do u have to study??

Why are you worried? What is hard for one person is a piece of cake for another. Studying time is down to the individual, normally about 40 hours a week.

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ruviyoly

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[Yeah I guess so but I still have this feeling that it might get even worse as you go high up the level.

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ruviyoly

[Yeah I guess so but I still have this feeling that it might get even worse as you go high up the level.

But quality resources and teaching at decent universities, along with tutorials and other factors may well help reduce the need for reading that would have otherwise be needed at lower quality universities for example. I'm not sure if this is valid for certain people. Will soon know with responses.

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PDJM

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NDGAARONDI

But quality resources and teaching at decent universities, along with tutorials and other factors may well help reduce the need for reading that would have otherwise be needed at lower quality universities for example. I'm not sure if this is valid for certain people. Will soon know with responses.

This is not the case- more tutorials/supervisions in smaller groups means more work as there is no hiding, think of them as mini oral exams! Having compared University reading lists, less reading at a better institution is not the case this is not the case, the higher calibre the students the more likely they are to read it, the greater the additional reading lists etc.

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OP

Jurisprudence...Nope, I don't have a training contract. And the fact that I got a 2:2 from a uni which isn't a "top university" means that it will be extremely difficult for me to get one...even though if I was looking for one I'd probably be applying to high street firms...but still...I don't think I have a cat in hell's chance of ever getting a training contract.

Misbah...I don't think I can stick with it till december coz then i'll have to pay some of the fees for it, as they take out the first instalment in november. I haven't paid anything yet so I think now is the best time to quit. To be honest, I'm not even sure that I want to stay in the legal field. I am one confused person. I say I want to do one thing then when I do it I change my mind about it and then want to do something else. I'm really lost in this world :frown:

Ruviyoly...Doing the law degree is easy. Many people I know have missed so many lectures and seminars but they made up for it when doing coursework and exams and they've come out with 2:1's and 2:2's. And alot of people do no preparation for seminars but they just blag their way through it and do really good. But for someone like me, I do the reading and preparation and still don't do as well :frown:

But the LPC...it's like a 9 till 5 job. You have to work your ass off everyday between those hours and then go home and do MORE! I just can't do that coz my brain starts hurting after a while.

Oh well...I really don't know what I'm gonna do with my life now.

Reply 12

muncrun

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Mazzy

Nope, I don't have a training contract. And the fact that I got a 2:2 from a uni which isn't a "top university" means that it will be extremely difficult for me to get one...even though if I was looking for one I'd probably be applying to high street firms...but still...I don't think I have a cat in hell's chance of ever getting a training contract.

To be honest, I think you are right.

Mazzy

Doing the law degree is easy.

Mazzy

But the LPC...it's like a 9 till 5 job. You have to work your ass off everyday between those hours and then go home and do MORE! I just can't do that coz my brain starts hurting after a while.

I must say I found this amusing. First, any decent career path will involve as many hours, and probably more, than the LPC demands. Secondly, for people coming from the better universities, the workload is probably normal for them. I must say that my experience of the LL.B workload is comparable to the hours you speak of in the LPC - working all day every day, and often in the evenings. I even have a couple of friends who are on the LPC having graduated from good law schools who say that the LPC involves a less intense workload than they had to cope with in the LL.B!

If I was you I would drop out on the basis that it's unlikely you will get a training contract. I think you would be wasting your money, and the benefit gained to your CV will be small if you don't become a solicitor. There are plenty of other opportunities out there, so don't feel like you're a failure! You must accept, though, that if you want to far doing whatever you want to do it will involve the blood, sweat and tears that come with hard work. Your easy days that you seem to have had at uni are over!

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mobb_theprequel

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Mazzy

I'm weak...I can't do this shit!

This made me laugh and cry - simultaneously! :smile:

Stick it out though! It's only a year of graft, then you can move on! Who'll be the one laughing when you're sitting on a cushy training contract, with the world at your feet?

Good luck.

Reply 14

OP

mobb_theprequel

This made me laugh and cry - simultaneously! :smile:

Stick it out though! It's only a year of graft, then you can move on! Who'll be the one laughing when you're sitting on a cushy training contract, with the world at your feet?

Good luck.

Hehehe

A year seems too long for me and I don't see the point of carrying on with it when I'm gonna be stuck with debt of around 13,000 quid and no guarantee of a training contract at the end of it.

Muncrun...Yes, you're right. I've no hope of getting a training contract and if I don't pass the LPC then I'm gonna be totally screwed! So the best thing is to quit it and go find a career which I would actually enjoy...
I'm seeing my course leader next week so i'll let you know how it goes and what I decide to do after I've quit it

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mobb_theprequel

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Mazzy

Hehehe

A year seems too long for me and I don't see the point of carrying on with it when I'm gonna be stuck with debt of around 13,000 quid and no guarantee of a training contract at the end of it.

Muncrun...Yes, you're right. I've no hope of getting a training contract and if I don't pass the LPC then I'm gonna be totally screwed! So the best thing is to quit it and go find a career which I would actually enjoy...
I'm seeing my course leader next week so i'll let you know how it goes and what I decide to do after I've quit it

I hope things go okay! Don't make any rash decisions, but I suppose it is a good thing to be realistic. I know somebody with a 2:2 LLB from Wolves and an LPC from the College of Law, who has moved heaven and earth to get a TC, but to no avail! There are plenty of jobs that you can do though, and a Law degree is highly valued outside the profession. Get that book! :wink:

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