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VB1369 - British Nationality Act 1981 (Amendment) Bill 2018 Watch
Poll: Should this bill be passed into law?
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This Bill is a necessary piece of legislation as to ensure that those who fight against our country, and dare to seek protection under the premise of their 'rights' bestowed by the gift of citizenship can do so no longer. Terrorists are despicable; they have unequivocally contravened the responsibilities associated with the gift of citizenship - they ought to be punished to the full extent of the law, and receive no mercy whatsoever.
In senselessly killing innocent people - mothers, fathers, friends, children... - they are declaring war on the British state.
In senselessly killing innocent people - mothers, fathers, friends, children... - they are declaring war on the British state.
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(Original post by ns_2)
This Bill is a necessary piece of legislation as to ensure that those who fight against our country, and dare to seek protection under the premise of their 'rights' bestowed by the gift of citizenship can do so no longer. Terrorists are despicable; they have unequivocally contravened the responsibilities associated with the gift of citizenship - they ought to be punished to the full extent of the law, and receive no mercy whatsoever.
In senselessly killing innocent people - mothers, fathers, friends, children... - they are declaring war on the British state.
This Bill is a necessary piece of legislation as to ensure that those who fight against our country, and dare to seek protection under the premise of their 'rights' bestowed by the gift of citizenship can do so no longer. Terrorists are despicable; they have unequivocally contravened the responsibilities associated with the gift of citizenship - they ought to be punished to the full extent of the law, and receive no mercy whatsoever.
In senselessly killing innocent people - mothers, fathers, friends, children... - they are declaring war on the British state.
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(Original post by Unown Uzer)
How do we know that the Government isn't going to abuse the use of this legislation by accusing peaceful, law-abiding people of being terrorists, as was done with Lauren Southern?
How do we know that the Government isn't going to abuse the use of this legislation by accusing peaceful, law-abiding people of being terrorists, as was done with Lauren Southern?
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I applaud the Tory Party for putting forward a sensible bill. However, it doesn't seem to me necessary that the government should have the power to revoke citizenship, and its unclear what benefit revoking it would have other than to potentially allow some sort of kangaroo court designed for people not protected under British law to operate. I frankly have more faith in our domestic judicial system to try terrorists with the full protection of civil liberties legislation, so nay.
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(Original post by Gladstone1885)
I applaud the Tory Party for putting forward a sensible bill. However, it doesn't seem to me necessary that the government should have the power to revoke citizenship, and its unclear what benefit revoking it would have other than to potentially allow some sort of kangaroo court designed for people not protected under British law to operate. I frankly have more faith in our domestic judicial system to try terrorists with the full protection of civil liberties legislation, so nay.
I applaud the Tory Party for putting forward a sensible bill. However, it doesn't seem to me necessary that the government should have the power to revoke citizenship, and its unclear what benefit revoking it would have other than to potentially allow some sort of kangaroo court designed for people not protected under British law to operate. I frankly have more faith in our domestic judicial system to try terrorists with the full protection of civil liberties legislation, so nay.
In respect to our domestic judicial system, this Bill ensures that prior to deprivation, the subject must have judicial proceedings commenced against them, if possible, as to ensure that they are punished to the full extent of the law.
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(Original post by ns_2)
By revoking citizenship, the subjects in question no longer have the universal umbrella protection instilled in British diplomatic ties; they will no longer be able to return to, and seek refuge in the United Kingdom.
In respect to our domestic judicial system, this Bill ensures that prior to deprivation, the subject must have judicial proceedings commenced against them, if possible, as to ensure that they are punished to the full extent of the law.
By revoking citizenship, the subjects in question no longer have the universal umbrella protection instilled in British diplomatic ties; they will no longer be able to return to, and seek refuge in the United Kingdom.
In respect to our domestic judicial system, this Bill ensures that prior to deprivation, the subject must have judicial proceedings commenced against them, if possible, as to ensure that they are punished to the full extent of the law.
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(Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
This Bill would only be remotely acceptable if the result was only permissible after judicial determination of human rights elements, ideally by the ECtHR.
This Bill would only be remotely acceptable if the result was only permissible after judicial determination of human rights elements, ideally by the ECtHR.
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(Original post by ns_2)
As per Section 40A of the Act, the subject retains the right to appeal.
As per Section 40A of the Act, the subject retains the right to appeal.
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(Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
The sanction should not be enforced until all appeal routes have been exhausted.
The sanction should not be enforced until all appeal routes have been exhausted.
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(Original post by ns_2)
The original Act designates that the person must be given notice to deprivation; appeals can occur during this time.
The original Act designates that the person must be given notice to deprivation; appeals can occur during this time.
The correct procedure would be the SS making an application to court, with the requirement being to prove terrorist intent to a criminal standard and it being subject to ECHR limitations.
Any person who would make another stateless with any risk whatsoever of being wrong is not worthy of having power.
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