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Eyes Wide Shut was utter garbage, avoid it! Shame that was Stanley Kubrick's last film - not a good one for him to go out on (even if he wasn't the one who actually finished it).

Vanilla Sky was good, I enjoyed that one.

I haven't seen Lost Highway.


Totally appropriate typing error :tongue:
Clockwork Orange is quite different to those movies IMO, it's a brilliant Kubrick movie though (director of Eyes Wide Shut).

Most of David Lynch's movies are quite surreal, especially Eraserhead and Mullholland Drive. Lynch also directed Lost Highway. I would recommend Mullholland Drive to start with, Eraserhead really goes overboard for some people in the 'surreal' area.

Others in this category:

Donnie Darko
Jacob's Ladder
The Neon Demon - Kind of surreal, I didn't think that I'd enjoy it, but I did.
Dark City - Unique Sci-Fi
Videodrome (probably goes a bit too far, not really anything like the others on this list, but I love it)
Memento - Again, only loosely meets the definition.
Run Lola Run
American Psycho
Fight Club
The Usual Suspects
eXistenZ
The Butterfly Effect - If you do watch this, make sure it's the director's cut!
The Game - Elements are similar, but it's not really surreal...
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Edited the title for you. Not censored now :h:
Unless I'm getting totally the wrong film (It's the one with Kidman/Cruise, right?), My recollection of Eyes Wide Shut boils down to it being a softcore-arthouse-porn film, but very little else. Maybe I just didn't "get it" :frown:

I'm all for originality in films, and I appreciate what Kubrick was trying to do with the main characters, but all of that didn't really seem to go anywhere. I guess I found it hard to believe that it was from the same guy who directed Full Metal Jacket and The Shining. Both of those are superb films though if you've not seen them - Kubrick's genius is all over those :smile:

I guess other films which I've really loved would be 'Moon' (Duncan Jones), Memento, Pulp Fiction. I'm not sure I'd say they're 'similar' in any way, because they're all rather different and unconventional IMO - I guess they're all films which leave you thinking rather alot :smile:

Thanks for the suggestion of Lost Highway, i'll check it out :biggrin:
I would say The Neon Demon, I didn't think that I'd enjoy it (not really a fan of Refn), but it was surprisingly good IMO.

Videodrome is quite surreal, but for some people it's 'over the top'.

Talking of Cronenberg, you might also enjoy 'Naked Lunch', although I'm not a fan myself, and I wouldn't really recommend it.

Run Lola Run isn't really like the rest of these, it's an unusual film, but not really 'surreal'.

Dark City is a Sci-Fi, if you enjoy Sci-Fi then give it a go.

eXistenZ is like marmite, now that I think about it, don't watch this unless you really like Sci-Fi. Haha. :smile:
Original post by winterscoming
Eyes Wide Shut was utter garbage, avoid it! Shame that was Stanley Kubrick's last film - not a good one for him to go out on (even if he wasn't the one who actually finished it).

Vanilla Sky was good, I enjoyed that one.

I haven't seen Lost Highway.


Totally appropriate typing error :tongue:


No, it was not. You're an idiot.
Original post by Kernel_Coder
Clockwork Orange is quite different to those movies IMO, it's a brilliant Kubrick movie though (director of Eyes Wide Shut).

Most of David Lynch's movies are quite surreal, especially Eraserhead and Mullholland Drive. Lynch also directed Lost Highway. I would recommend Mullholland Drive to start with, Eraserhead really goes overboard for some people in the 'surreal' area.

Others in this category:

Donnie Darko
Jacob's Ladder
The Neon Demon - Kind of surreal, I didn't think that I'd enjoy it, but I did.
Dark City - Unique Sci-Fi
Videodrome (probably goes a bit too far, not really anything like the others on this list, but I love it)
Memento - Again, only loosely meets the definition.
Run Lola Run
American Psycho
Fight Club
The Usual Suspects
eXistenZ
The Butterfly Effect - If you do watch this, make sure it's the director's cut!
The Game - Elements are similar, but it's not really surreal...


Brilliant list there! I've seen all of those except Videodrome, Run Lola Run, Jacob's Ladder and The Neon Demon. But couldn't agree more about the rest of them :smile:
I think calling it utter garbage is just such an over the top criticism for such a good film that it is insulting to Stanley Kubrick and every fan of the movie.

If he/she didn't understand it, the film is about sex magick cults and secret societies. Rothschild masked balls, Sexual blackmail, sex trafficking, etc.
They're an occult secret society, much like many US Presidents have been confirmed to be part of Skull and Bones society, where they perform sex rituals like masturbating inside of coffins... Only they utilize high class prostitutes for drug fueled ritual orgies. If you watch the movies, some of these girls are killed and their deaths are covered up. This is an allusion to the fact these things happen in real life. There is also a lot of symbolism in the movie like many of Kubrick's. You should consider looking into an analysis of the film. You'll also notice the high priest at the party has an English accent, this a reference to the Anglo-American control system, and how it has planted its secret societies (like Scottish Rite Masonry) firmly into our country. Another thing you'll notice is the strange pedophilia going on in the costume shop between the two asian businessmen and the costume shop owner's daughter, as though he has allowed his daughter to sleep with them. And another thing, you'll notice the creepy music, well if you know anything about Satanism and many occult beliefs, they often revolve around the concept of inversion, in the case of Satanism, inversion of Christianity and Christian morals, well the creepy music is in fact a Romanian Orthodox Chant played in reverse. In other words, an inversion of Christianity. They are also wearing purple and red, the colors used by the vatican. Etc.

Here's a news report of a french politician involved with a sado-masochistic sex ring, an elaborate cover-up when these prostitutes turn up dead, and a serial killers involvement if you think I'm talking out of my ass.
https://www.economist.com/node/1863120

Remember, sex is used in blackmail, and people so rich and powerful they can have whatever they want tend to develop some very demented kinks to keep from getting bored. If you take photos or videos of any of these people engaged in these behaviors you can control them.

Check this guys analysis out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQrjLwvQYU
Oleanna.
Definitely watch Jacob's Ladder.

And Blue Velvet.
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Original post by Kernel_Coder
Clockwork Orange is quite different to those movies IMO, it's a brilliant Kubrick movie though (director of Eyes Wide Shut).

Most of David Lynch's movies are quite surreal, especially Eraserhead and Mullholland Drive. Lynch also directed Lost Highway. I would recommend Mullholland Drive to start with, Eraserhead really goes overboard for some people in the 'surreal' area.

Others in this category:

Donnie Darko
Jacob's Ladder
The Neon Demon - Kind of surreal, I didn't think that I'd enjoy it, but I did.
Dark City - Unique Sci-Fi
Videodrome (probably goes a bit too far, not really anything like the others on this list, but I love it)
Memento - Again, only loosely meets the definition.
Run Lola Run
American Psycho
Fight Club
The Usual Suspects
eXistenZ
The Butterfly Effect - If you do watch this, make sure it's the director's cut!
The Game - Elements are similar, but it's not really surreal...


Don't all these just come under the category of cult films, I'm not sure what you mean by 'surreal'
I mean, watch the other films those directors have made? Look up Stanley Kubrick (director of Eyes Wide Shut) and David Lynch (director of Lost Highway).

Most Kubrick films are masterpieces. Although his films are all very different in genre, structurally, they are very similar, with his films being split up into little segments. My favourites are (in order):

The Shinning
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket

Lynch is also amazing. His film tend to be very similar style to each other, very surreal. If you like Lost High, check out Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive (my personal favourite). Some of his earlier stuff is really weird and cool, like Eraserhead. Maybe check out his series, Twin Peaks, I couldn't get into it, but people loved it.

Other films that are similar to Lost Highway (not from Lynch):
Lost River
Under the Skin
Only God Forgives (Nicolas Winding Refn is wonderful).
Enemy (Denis Villeneuve, guy is my favourite living director).

I can't do a list like that for Kubrcik, I don't think there's anything else really like him
Original post by winterscoming
Unless I'm getting totally the wrong film (It's the one with Kidman/Cruise, right?), My recollection of Eyes Wide Shut boils down to it being a softcore-arthouse-porn film, but very little else. Maybe I just didn't "get it" :frown:

I'm all for originality in films, and I appreciate what Kubrick was trying to do with the main characters, but all of that didn't really seem to go anywhere. I guess I found it hard to believe that it was from the same guy who directed Full Metal Jacket and The Shining. Both of those are superb films though if you've not seen them - Kubrick's genius is all over those :smile:

I guess other films which I've really loved would be 'Moon' (Duncan Jones), Memento, Pulp Fiction. I'm not sure I'd say they're 'similar' in any way, because they're all rather different and unconventional IMO - I guess they're all films which leave you thinking rather alot :smile:

Thanks for the suggestion of Lost Highway, i'll check it out :biggrin:


Yeah...You didn't get it.

I watched Eyes Wide Shut recently and it's the last Kubrick film I saw. I had to watch it for a class. I remember thinking it was going to be trash because cause it had Tom Cruise in it, so I begrudgingly watched it.

10 minutes later, it suddenly hit me "Oh yeah...this is Stanley Kubrick, what the hell was I worried about". I loved it. You say it's pornographic, but he actually never has sex in the film. The whole thing is like a dream, where he's always close to getting it, but never does. (Spoilers) Even at the end of film, it cuts before he sleeps with Nicole Kidman's character.

The whole thing is just a nightmare, as he spirals down into this sort limbo world of lust and decadency. I thought it was brilliant.
Well Surreal films are films that revolve within certain limitations of advancement in one storyline and just keep moving within different frames. Movies like Mulholland Drive, Lost highway, Eraser head, Pulp Fiction, Sixth Sense and few more are all elites in this class. On the contrary cult films are celebrated films, these are the