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    So surely the extra year for a BSc at St. Andrews isn't really worth it? Even though it's a little bit better than an English BSc, many employers will not know that.
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    (Original post by MarshallM)
    So surely the extra year for a BSc at St. Andrews isn't really worth it? Even though it's a little bit better than an English BSc, many employers will not know that.
    The scottish and english education systems are different just as the US and english education systems are different. As an english applicant to a scottish university then that is something you have to weigh up personally yourself. The St Andrews system offers you a lot of flexibility meaning that you are more likely to do well because you can take on a subject that you actually enjoy (there are large numbers of people at St Andrews who graduate with a degree in a subject other than that which they applied for) and some people think that is worth an extra year of study.
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    The scottish and english education systems are different just as the US and english education systems are different. As an english applicant to a scottish university then that is something you have to weigh up personally yourself. The St Andrews system offers you a lot of flexibility meaning that you are more likely to do well because you can take on a subject that you actually enjoy (there are large numbers of people at St Andrews who graduate with a degree in a subject other than that which they applied for) and some people think that is worth an extra year of study.
    I do agree entirely - the flexibility the system offers gives a broader knowledge base, but allows for specialisation in later years. The first year, I would describe as a "university style sixth form", by the look of it.

    To me, that would probably be worth an extra year too.
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    I do agree entirely - the flexibility the system offers gives a broader knowledge base, but allows for specialisation in later years. The first year, I would describe as a "university style sixth form", by the look of it.

    To me, that would probably be worth an extra year too.
    I would personally find it nice to have a more relaxed first year. There is so much change in your life; you can experience it all more fully.
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    For some courses yes. Others either don't require an A-level in that subject or the academics prefer to standardise the level of people before starting second year.
    Would it be a possibility for History? And if so, what would I have to do to skip ahead?
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    Would it be a possibility for History? And if so, what would I have to do to skip ahead?
    I don't think they allow it in arts.
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    I don't think they allow it in arts.
    Right, thanks for letting me know. I'll check into it and make sure.
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    (Original post by Louie_Gee_Gee)
    Right, thanks for letting me know. I'll check into it and make sure.
    It's definitely not possible - I asked a few years back. The faculty of Arts is almost without exception intransigent with regard to anything and everything that contravenes their (funnily enough - unwritten rules) so I wouldn't bother trying to plead your case...
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    It's definitely not possible - I asked a few years back. The faculty of Arts is almost without exception intransigent with regard to anything and everything that contravenes their (funnily enough - unwritten rules) so I wouldn't bother trying to plead your case...
    Oh right, thanks. Hmm... now I have to decide whether I want to spend 4 years of my life studying History at St. Andrews or 3 at Newcastle... :confused:
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    Oh right, thanks. Hmm... now I have to decide whether I want to spend 4 years of my life studying History at St. Andrews or 3 at Newcastle... :confused:
    The plug for St Andrews is that you can study a few more subjects as well in your first year and that you have to think about the fees situation carefully. Scottish fees for english students are capped at roughly £1700 a year but full top-up included fees in english universities are about £3000 a year so you in some cases it is still actually cheaper to study in scotland for longer.
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    Plus, St Andrews is a lot nicer than Newcastle...
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    The plug for St Andrews is that you can study a few more subjects as well in your first year and that you have to think about the fees situation carefully. Scottish fees for english students are capped at roughly £1700 a year but full top-up included fees in english universities are about £3000 a year so you in some cases it is still actually cheaper to study in scotland for longer.
    Yeah, good point. Having less student debt is certainly very appealing!

    I heard somewhere that you don't have to pay fees in your 4th year - is this true?! I'll be amazed if it is! It just seems way too good be true! :eek:
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    Plus, St Andrews is a lot nicer than Newcastle...
    Newcastle seems to be about the whole city/nightlife lifestyle - which I'm just not into.

    Plus I've just opened an account with the Royal Bank of Scotland... do you think I'm nearing a decision?!
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    I heard somewhere that you don't have to pay fees in your 4th year - is this true?! I'll be amazed if it is! It just seems way too good be true! :eek:
    I know that this used to happen, but I don't it does any more I'm afraid. The Scottish executive was too worried about 'fee refugees' and so they stopped doing it.
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    I know that this used to happen, but I don't it does any more I'm afraid. The Scottish executive was too worried about 'fee refugees' and so they stopped doing it.
    Shame really, well if I get into St. Andrews I can spend lots of time campaigning/complaining against the SNP.

    Though to be honest, that Alex Salmond character is a good politician (regardless if I agree with him or not)
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    I know that this used to happen, but I don't it does any more I'm afraid. The Scottish executive was too worried about 'fee refugees' and so they stopped doing it.
    Wow, I'm astounded that this was ever true! Pity it's not anymore! Never mind... :rolleyes:
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    It's definitely not possible - I asked a few years back. The faculty of Arts is almost without exception intransigent with regard to anything and everything that contravenes their (funnily enough - unwritten rules) so I wouldn't bother trying to plead your case...
    hey,
    ive a question regarding the MA degree. U said u tried asking a while back whether it was possible to accelerate ur arts degree? is it really not possible then to complete the 4 year MA honours degree at edinburgh in 3 years? Like instead of taking irrelevant modules, take only the modules that would count towards the major, den try to do both level 1 and 2 in the first year?

    Hope u can help me with this. thanks!
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    It's not possible simply due to the number of credits you have to take in first and second level modules to qualify for an honours degree, combined with the fact that they dont allow people to take supplementary credits at any time in the faculty of arts (unless of course you fail a course and are trailing credits).
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    In addition to that, I think it would actually impossible due to the way the modules are timetabled and the pre-requisites involved.
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    Hey all,

    I was wondering whether it was possible to switch faculties after accepting an offer? I have an offer for the Bsc, but am thinking that I might rather be in the Ma program. Has anyone had any experience with this or know someone that has?


    cheers!
 
 
 
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