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I'm really confused about which uni I should go for next year. I want to make sure I have back up since I'm finding A-levels quite hard.

I'm required to get AAB to get into Uni of Leeds for Medical Engineering (they also offer a foundation year, if I get low grades). On the other hand, I know that City University of London will be in clearance for that course (but it's a low uni for medical engineering), but if I go there, I'll go straight into Year 1. Which one should I go for?

Just to put it out there, I'm already behind cause I had to redo my GCSE's. So I'm not sure if it's worth it to add an extra year to go to Leeds :/
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I'm really confused about which uni I should go for next year. I want to make sure I have back up since I'm finding A-levels quite hard.

I'm required to get AAB to get into Uni of Leeds for Medical Engineering (they also offer a foundation year, if I get low grades). On the other hand, I know that City University of London will be in clearance for that course (but it's a low uni for medical engineering), but if I go there, I'll go straight into Year 1. Which one should I go for?

Just to put it out there, I'm already behind cause I had to redo my GCSE's. So I'm not sure if it's worth it to add an extra year to go to Leeds :/
City is not a "low" university - it's about the same as Leeds in terms of general prestige.

If I were in this situation, I would go to City. See how it goes, if after the first couple of months you don't like it, apply to transfer into the second year of Leeds' engineering degree (email Leeds' admission tutor and ask if they accept transfer applications now). If they do, there's no reason to do a foundation year.
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I'm really confused about which uni I should go for next year. I want to make sure I have back up since I'm finding A-levels quite hard.

I'm required to get AAB to get into Uni of Leeds for Medical Engineering (they also offer a foundation year, if I get low grades). On the other hand, I know that City University of London will be in clearance for that course (but it's a low uni for medical engineering), but if I go there, I'll go straight into Year 1. Which one should I go for?

Just to put it out there, I'm already behind cause I had to redo my GCSE's. So I'm not sure if it's worth it to add an extra year to go to Leeds :/
What grades do you *think* you will get?

Do you have an offer from City or you are just thinking what happens if you miss your Leeds offer? What is your insurance?

There's no guarantee City will be in clearing this year. Clearing courses change every year depending on lots of circumstances. And, just by the by, Leeds had engineering courses in clearing last year and would accept ABC for an AAA course.

Lastly, where have you seen a ranking for medical engineering? It's a rather specialist course.
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City is not a "low" university - it's about the same as Leeds in terms of general prestige.

If I were in this situation, I would go to City. See how it goes, if after the first couple of months you don't like it, apply to transfer into the second year of Leeds' engineering degree (email Leeds' admission tutor and ask if they accept transfer applications now). If they do, there's no reason to do a foundation year.
City University is a low university in the biomedical engineering sector (mechanical engineering) according to league tables. But I will email them to see if that's possible. Thank you!
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City is not a "low" university - it's about the same as Leeds in terms of general prestige.

If I were in this situation, I would go to City. See how it goes, if after the first couple of months you don't like it, apply to transfer into the second year of Leeds' engineering degree (email Leeds' admission tutor and ask if they accept transfer applications now). If they do, there's no reason to do a foundation year.
Leeds is certainly higher up the ladder than City.
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What grades do you *think* you will get?

Do you have an offer from City or you are just thinking what happens if you miss your Leeds offer? What is your insurance?

There's no guarantee City will be in clearing this year. Clearing courses change every year depending on lots of circumstances. And, just by the by, Leeds had engineering courses in clearing last year and would accept ABC for an AAA course.

Lastly, where have you seen a ranking for medical engineering? It's a rather specialist course.
I'm predicted AAA but I think I'll get maximum BBB, I had an offer from City but I rejected it since they said they're most likely to end up in clearing and that they have the past few years. Leeds requires me to get AAB to get in.
Oh wow okay I didn't check if Leeds is usually in clearing, it seems that medical engineering is a very competitive course to get into so I didn't consider. I applied for biomedical engineering in City which is basically the same to medical engineering.
Thank you for the reply!
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City is not a "low" university - it's about the same as Leeds in terms of general prestige.

If I were in this situation, I would go to City. See how it goes, if after the first couple of months you don't like it, apply to transfer into the second year of Leeds' engineering degree (email Leeds' admission tutor and ask if they accept transfer applications now). If they do, there's no reason to do a foundation year.
now this is just spreading misinformation
tbh OP id go for leeds, its a far more reputable uni for engineering which will make life a lot easier when looking for graduate positions.
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now this is just spreading misinformation
tbh OP id go for leeds, its a far more reputable uni for engineering which will make life a lot easier when looking for graduate positions.
Engineering employers aren't that interested in the university. They are very interested in the candidate.

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I know a guy who got in with ABC for an AAA requirement for comp sci which Im sure is a popular course at Leeds. I think you'll still have a chance depending on the popularity of the course.
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Engineering employers aren't that interested in the university. They are very interested in the candidate.

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I was actually talking to my brother about this. He said to me (from his experience I'll add) that the university you go to does help you get into interviews. But in the interview stage its even playing field.

That's the advantage you get from going to better universities (and direct links to firms) and that's why more reputable universities have a lot better graduate prospects than unis such as city.

You simply have more opportunities.
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I was actually talking to my brother about this. He said to me (from his experience I'll add) that the university you go to does help you get into interviews. But in the interview stage its even playing field.

That's the advantage you get from going to better universities (and direct links to firms) and that's why more reputable universities have a lot better graduate prospects than unis such as city.

You simply have more opportunities.
That's true, but you said he was spreading misinformation, which he was not.

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That's true, but you said he was spreading misinformation, which he was not.

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eh, I agree I probably worded it a bit too harshly but when it comes to engineering it's a stretch to call them equal. No disrespect to City but going to Leeds will make post-graduation life easier.
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I was actually talking to my brother about this. He said to me (from his experience I'll add) that the university you go to does help you get into interviews. But in the interview stage its even playing field.

That's the advantage you get from going to better universities (and direct links to firms) and that's why more reputable universities have a lot better graduate prospects than unis such as city.

You simply have more opportunities.
Is he an engineering recruitment consultant?

There are City Biomedical Engineering alumni at Novartis, J&J, Siemens amongst many others.

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Is he an engineering recruitment consultant?

There are City Biomedical Engineering alumni at Novartis, J&J, Siemens amongst many others.

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Interesting graph, but if you look on cug league table. Leeds has an employment rate of 89% whilst City has an employment rate of 61%. This was for mechanical engineering (there wasn't one for biomedical engineering). This isn't an anomaly either, this has been the same for the last 5 years.
I know that the candidate is the most important part but I'm saying that a good reputable university makes life a lot easier.
About that graph, in my opinion for employment quantitative data is more valuable than qualitative.
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Interesting graph, but if you look on cug league table. Leeds has an employment rate of 89% whilst City has an employment rate of 61%. This was for mechanical engineering (there wasn't one for biomedical engineering). This isn't an anomaly either, this has been the same for the last 5 years.
Biomedical is more closely aligned with EEE than MechEng (according to Unistats). CUG gives Leeds EEE grad prospects at 88 and City at 74
Top for EEE grad prospects is... Queens, Belfast.

Meanwhile apropos of nothing much, but there's stats on Cambridge offer rates for MPhil (masters) courses by different undergrad universities. Leeds has an overall 32%, City is 27%. Not hugely different.

But none of these differences, large or mostly small, are especially relevent to the OP - they as an individual will define their future career. Not some averages of averages.

The OP should pick the course they prefer at university they want to spend 3, 4 or 5 years at.

PS. Is your brother's comment qualitative or quantitive? And what is their professional background? That chart is from a very large survey by the CBI
http://www.cbi.org.uk/index.cfm/_api...44798DD5B15E77
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I was actually talking to my brother about this. He said to me (from his experience I'll add) that the university you go to does help you get into interviews. But in the interview stage its even playing field.

That's the advantage you get from going to better universities (and direct links to firms) and that's why more reputable universities have a lot better graduate prospects than unis such as city.

You simply have more opportunities.
The direct link with firms is something that stood out for me with Leeds, also having good work placement.
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