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Oxford Brookes to Oxford?

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Hi, just asking a question for a friend of mine who is thinking of Oxford Brookes for an MA in International Relations. After that he'd like to do a DPhil at Oxford Uni, but did not know if Brookes degrees fail to impress the near neighbours...

Anyone ever hear of someone successfully doing a degree at Oxford Uni after a degree at Brookes?

Thanks for the advice,

Reply 1

rottcodd

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If he were to apply for a D.Phil at Oxford University, Oxford would be interested in how well he performed on his masters degree (and also his undergraduate degree to some extent), the standard and quality of his research proposal, whether they have a supervisor that matches his interests and how good the references from his tutors were. They won't care where he did his degree :smile:

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username36063

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so long as the candidate is adequate no problems.

a degree is a degree. take a look at the oxbridge sticky for more information about undergrad uni means nothing to where you do a dphil/phd

Reply 3

hobnob

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Southessex

Hi, just asking a question for a friend of mine who is thinking of Oxford Brookes for an MA in International Relations. After that he'd like to do a DPhil at Oxford Uni, but did not know if Brookes degrees fail to impress the near neighbours...

As long as your friend does well on his degree it won't really matter where he did it. They won't prefer somebody who did his MA at the University of Elsewhere to him purely because of the university's name.

Reply 4

Southessex

OP

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Cheers,

I have been kinda telling him this, but I am sure he will feel better hearing it from others as well!

Reply 5

The Boosh

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brookes and oxford have various joint projects and schools. the two which I always quote are the joint graduate law school: "oxford school of law" in which both oxford and brookes students are given priority over non-brookes/oxford students, and postgrad psychology (which i think is for msc-dphil funding purposes). as a brookes graduate i was interested either in law or something related to health, hence why i know of these. other projects and schools may exist too. i couldn't comment on your field, but we have other ex-poly grads on tsr now studying at oxford for research degrees. tell your mate not to believe the tsr myths :smile:

Reply 6

dubistokay

I hold a BA from Brookes and was admitted into Oxford for an MPhil programme. Must note that I am currently doing an MSc at Warwick, though, but I think this is pretty irrelevant. Brookes is well-recognised enough.

Reply 7

The Boosh

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indeed. but say that on the part of the forum dominated by a-level students and early undergrads and you will get a different picture.

Reply 8

Paulwhy

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dubistokay

I hold a BA from Brookes and was admitted into Oxford for an MPhil programme. Must note that I am currently doing an MSc at Warwick, though, but I think this is pretty irrelevant. Brookes is well-recognised enough.

what subject are you studying?

Reply 9

shiny

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There isn't much regulation or quality assurance once you get past undergrad so the key thing to look at when choosing postgrad courses/research degrees is where people have come from and where they have gone next. Most Masters course admins keep a record of where graduates move on to. It would be worth asking about this.

Reply 10

The Boosh

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just to add something i've just noticed - a cambridge research group that is allied to medicine has funded phd students who are graduates from universities that many tsr a-levellers wouldn't think twice about, including hertfordshire and chichester. "cambridge" and "medicine" are two words that make the tsr prestige whores dribble with excitement, and yet we have the ivory towers being invaded by ghastly new universities!!

Reply 11

Tomber

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I would just add that he shouldn't approach a DPhil just because it's Oxford. He needs to look at where the best specialists are in his area and go for them, if they're at Oxford then that's great, if not and it's clear he just wants the Oxford degree it's not a great idea.

Reply 12

hobnob

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The Boosh

just to add something i've just noticed - a cambridge research group that is allied to medicine has funded phd students who are graduates from universities that many tsr a-levellers wouldn't think twice about, including hertfordshire and chichester. "cambridge" and "medicine" are two words that make the tsr prestige whores dribble with excitement, and yet we have the ivory towers being invaded by ghastly new universities!!

Just you wait until Vicky sees that... :biggrin:

Reply 13

The Boosh

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Tomber

I would just add that he shouldn't approach a DPhil just because it's Oxford. He needs to look at where the best specialists are in his area and go for them, if they're at Oxford then that's great, if not and it's clear he just wants the Oxford degree it's not a great idea.

ditto. the value of a research degree lies in the project and supervisors, not the brand name. there isn't one form of "knowledge" that is ordered hierarchically and located in universities that are themselves ordered hierarchically, there are "knowledges" which shift and change and are located in various places at various times, to the extent that oxford may simply lack the academics and knowledges needed for a research degree. it may be that the area the op's friend wishes to specialise in can only be studied at soas or kings (or brookes), at which point oxford should be ignored. serious employers of ir research graduates should know this too.

i always say phd instead of dphil and should correct my posts, but i can't be arsed.

Reply 14

The Boosh

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hobnob

Just you wait until Vicky sees that... :biggrin:

that's why i posted it here!! :p:

i wouldn't have battered an eye lid if it wasn't for the fact that i now associate chichester with the willow-limbed vicky. i was amused when i read the list of students. half of them were international from places i've never head of, and no harvard in sight.

Reply 15

hobnob

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The Boosh

that's why i posted it here!! :p:

i wouldn't have battered an eye lid if it wasn't for the fact that i now associate chichester with the willow-limbed vicky. i was amused when i read the list of students. half of them were international from places i've never head of, and no harvard in sight.

Maybe they force Harvard graduates to pretend they graduated from elsewhere, because they don't want to appear elitist?

Reply 16

The Boosh

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hmmmm, you could be on to something here!! careful though, they may hunt you down for revealing the truth.

Reply 17

hobnob

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The Boosh

hmmmm, you could be on to something here!! careful though, they may hunt you down for revealing the truth.

Indeed... maybe I should consider changing my name to 'nobhob'.

Reply 18

The Boosh

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or modnob

Reply 19

apotoftea

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The Boosh

just to add something i've just noticed - a cambridge research group that is allied to medicine has funded phd students who are graduates from universities that many tsr a-levellers wouldn't think twice about, including hertfordshire and chichester. "cambridge" and "medicine" are two words that make the tsr prestige whores dribble with excitement, and yet we have the ivory towers being invaded by ghastly new universities!!

Those horrible new universities, close them all down! :mad:

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