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    What's the overall difference in the further pure stuff across the different exam boards? I'm doing Edexcel which has FP1-3, so surely there's less content in that than AQA which does 1-4?
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    I'll post a list of topics for OCR FP1:
    - Sets of linear equations
    - Summing series
    - Matrices
    - Determinants and Inverses of 2x2 matrices
    - Matrices and transformations
    - Mathematical induction
    - Complex numbers
    - Roots of polynomial equations
    - Modulus and argument
    - Determinants and Inverses of 3x3 matrices.

    As you can see, no calculus.
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    Edexcel syllabus is changing for 2009 exams, received the new books today, not had a look yet.
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    (Original post by Glutamic Acid)
    I'll post a list of topics for OCR FP1:
    - Sets of linear equations
    - Summing series
    - Matrices
    - Determinants and Inverses of 2x2 matrices
    - Matrices and transformations
    - Mathematical induction
    - Complex numbers
    - Roots of polynomial equations
    - Modulus and argument
    - Determinants and Inverses of 3x3 matrices.

    As you can see, no calculus.
    That's totally different to Edexcel's FP1:

    - Inequalities
    - Summing series
    - Complex numbers
    - Numerical methods
    - First order differential equations
    - Second order differential equations
    - Polar coordinates

    Edexcel don't touch matrices or induction till FP3.
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    (Original post by Mrm.)
    Edexcel syllabus is changing for 2009 exams, received the new books today, not had a look yet.
    It is the same. They just split some of the subjects into 2 parts..like Matrix for example.
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    OCR FP2:

    - Differentiating inverse trigonometric functions
    - Rational Functions
    - Maclaurin Series
    - Hyperbolic Functions
    - Graphs of Rational Functions
    - Polar Coordinates
    - Series and Integrals
    - Approximations and Errors
    - The Newton-Raphson Method
    - Integration using trigonometric functions
    - Reduction Formulae
    - The graph of y^2 = f(x)


    OCR FP3:

    - First Order Differential Equations
    - Lines and Planes
    - Linear Differential Equations
    - The Vector Product
    - Complex numbers in polar form
    - De Moivre's theorem
    - Further trigonometry
    - Calculus with compex numbers
    - Groups
    - Subgroups
    - Isomorphisms of groups


    Plenty of calculus in there, Glutamic Acid!
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    yeah they're changing it but it'll still be the same exams we've sat already right?? They are changing it for current yr11 kids??????? right?????
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    so out of Edexcel, AQA and OCR which has the easiest Further Pure Exams.

    From what ive heard A2 Edexcel Maths is a piece of piss so i think this is similar to FP1-3
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    (Original post by Hashshashin)

    Plenty of calculus in there, Glutamic Acid!
    Looks fun.
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    (Original post by Glutamic Acid)
    I'll post a list of topics for OCR FP1:
    Just for amusement, here's how it compares to my A-level (not-FP) syllabus. Only rough as it's from memory. Yes means we did it, No means we didn't, Sortof means we did it but not in much detail.


    - Sets of linear equations - Sortof
    - Summing series - Sortof
    - Matrices - Yes
    - Determinants and Inverses of 2x2 matrices - Yes
    - Matrices and transformations - Yes
    - Mathematical induction - Yes
    - Complex numbers - Yes
    - Roots of polynomial equations - Yes
    - Modulus and argument - Yes
    - Determinants and Inverses of 3x3 matrices. - No

    FP2:
    Differentiating inverse trigonometric functions - Yes
    - Rational Functions - Yes
    - Maclaurin Series - Yes
    - Hyperbolic Functions - No
    - Graphs of Rational Functions - Yes
    - Polar Coordinates - Yes
    - Series and Integrals - don't know
    - Approximations and Errors - Sort of
    - The Newton-Raphson Method - Yes
    - Integration using trigonometric functions - Yes
    - Reduction Formulae - No
    - The graph of y^2 = f(x) - Not specifically, but you'd be expected to be able to do it...

    FP3:
    - First Order Differential Equations - Sort of
    - Lines and Planes - Yes
    - Linear Differential Equations - No
    - The Vector Product - Yes
    - Complex numbers in polar form - Yes
    - De Moivre's theorem - No
    - Further trigonometry - Don't know
    - Calculus with compex numbers - No
    - Groups - No
    - Subgroups - No
    - Isomorphisms of groups - No
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    Very interesting. BTW, this is the content for the topics you were unsure about:


    FP2 Series and Integrals

    This chapter shows that there are links between summing series and evaluating integrals. When you have completed it, you should

    - be able to find estimates of areas under curves by summing series
    - be able to use integrals to approximate to sums of series


    FP3 Further Trigonometry

    This chapter shows how some trigonometric results can be developed by using De Moivre's theorem. When you have completed it, you should

    - be able to express trigonometric functions of multiples of an angle in terms of functions of the angle itself
    - be able to use these relations to investigate the roots of polynomial equations
    - be able to express powers of sines and cosines of an angle in terms of trigonometric functions of multiples of the angle
    - know that some power series can be extended to comples variables
    - be able to use sums of power series to find sums of trigonometric series



    One thing though - I assume Further Maths A level still existed back when you were at school? If so, what the hell did that cover? Stuff that's been shunted up to the first year of university study? Or did it work differently?
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    (Original post by Glutamic Acid)
    Looks fun.
    I'd've posted that without the wink.
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    I'd've posted that without the wink.
    I assure you, no sarcasm at all. :p:
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    (Original post by steve2006)
    so out of Edexcel, AQA and OCR which has the easiest Further Pure Exams.

    From what ive heard A2 Edexcel Maths is a piece of piss so i think this is similar to FP1-3
    having a go with both boards papers for FP1 I have to say that I find AQA's FP1 much easier than edexcels (although it could just be for that module )

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    This has come up before, I'm on AQA and I would say we have the easiest exams but that means what exactly?

    It's all just speculation. Meh.

    David, did you do some sort of a Further course as well? Did you do P1-6?
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    From what I can tell the syllabus covered by Edexcel and OCR is virtually identical. It's just that the topics have been put into different modules. Edexcel does Newton-Raphson in FP1 and Matrices in FP3 whereas OCR do it in FP2 and FP1 respectively. In that sense I doubt there's much difference in difficulty. If there were such huge discrepancies I'm sure you'd find a lot more people doing the exams set by a particular board. Anyway there are som topics which are viewed as harder so are put in FP3 whereas some people might see them as easier. I for one find FP3 and FP2 easier than FP1 just because I'm better at the topics covered in those modules.
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    (Original post by Totally Tom)
    This has come up before, I'm on AQA and I would say we have the easiest exams but that means what exactly?

    It's all just speculation. Meh.

    David, did you do some sort of a Further course as well? Did you do P1-6?
    David's too old to have done P1-6...
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    (Original post by Totally Tom)
    David, did you do some sort of a Further course as well? Did you do P1-6?
    The equivalent back then. Wasn't that different from your further maths course to be honest, at least as far as pure goes. But there were a lot of applied options you had to do as well - I think we covered all the "wacky" modules that people now would only do if they do "Additional Further Maths".
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    I do AQA and FP1 doesn't assume any previous A-Level knowledge so is a bit of a joke. It doesn't even properly cover the topics it does include - for example, there's some stuff on conic sections, but it doesn't even mention words like 'focus' or 'directrix', and is basically just C2 curve translations.

    It actually seems like the other exam boards cover slightly more content in the Further Pure modules than AQA. However, I haven't looked at the exams, so I couldn't comment on difficulty.
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    (Original post by studyboy)
    It is the same. They just split some of the subjects into 2 parts..like Matrix for example.
    It is similar; but it is not the same.
 
 
 
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